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jabby posted:Peston's entire 'stitch-up' argument is apparently based on a shadow cabinet member telling him that delegate selection was 'organised' to favour Corbyn. I mean, Momentum have obviously been organising to make sure we get lefty delegates where possible? That's just...regular politics though. Edit: 1315 AD, there's a bigass famine across Europe. People killed and ate their kids. We all ready for November 1st? 
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OwlFancier posted:Peston is legit losing his mind. Peston's been coasting off his reputation for 11 years now. He should go back to economic stuff, he's hopeless at party politics
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goddamnedtwisto posted:Is this a bit? I mean political awareness is a lot lower in the general population than ITT, and lower still in the less educated/poor and it's not like party conferences generally make a lot of headline news in the red-tops (unless it's something they can make a quick and lazy pun from like May being handed a P45) - the subtleties of motion 13 v motion 14 are not going to feature in the Sun or the Mirror in a million years every conference there's always a video of someone going out and asking people what's happening and the vast majority of them have no idea (despite them usually being asked while right in front of a massive sign) pretend I posted the one from the LD conference (you'll have to pretend because I'm lazy and also it's my bedtime (therapist has got me on a strict sleep schedule which makes me feel exactly like a small child)) e: not trying to use "non-university educated voters" as any kind of pejorative (I might as well be one because my time at uni certainly didn't involve very much in the way of education) but the poster I was initially replying seemed to be using it as a synonym for low-information voters Julio Cruz fucked around with this message at 23:04 on Sep 23, 2019 |
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https://twitter.com/mikegapes/status/1176227590467727360?s=21 It is leader
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Gone already, what was it?
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sebzilla posted:Gone already, what was it? Mike Gapes "correcting" Diane Abbott (but getting it wrong, she had it right).
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Sep 23, 2019 23:13
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Right out of Putin's playbook.
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Julio Cruz posted:I mean political awareness is a lot lower in the general population than ITT, and lower still in the less educated/poor
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TACD posted:get back to everybody publicly making GBS threads on Boris Johnson. No-one's going to get back to publicly making GBS threads on Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson while there's still a chance to poo poo on Jeremy Corbyn.
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https://twitter.com/paulwaugh/status/1176160195539591169 loving lol I hope everybody walks out of Watson's speech, I don't give a poo poo how bad it looks on TV. Prick needs to learn you can't spend years undermining the party then start crying for unity when you get yours.
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Imagine being so unpopular people will hire an orchestra to play music whilst they walk out on you
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I do wonder what the hell he'll even say, surely he's gonna get booed to hell and back when he gets up there.
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Ratjaculation posted:Imagine being so unpopular people will hire an orchestra to play music whilst they walk out on you Do you think it'll be yakety sax or like a slow mournful thing?
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OwlFancier posted:I do wonder what the hell he'll even say, surely he's gonna get booed to hell and back when he gets up there. Sky has the trails for his speech. Basically just everybody needs to stop being mean to him, what did he do to deserve it, and something half-decent about windfarms. https://twitter.com/SkyNews/status/1176251636781637633
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Julio Cruz posted:I mean political awareness is a lot lower in the general population than ITT, and lower still in the less educated/poor low-information voters is less letters than non-university-educated voters you colossal loving prick.
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jabby posted:Peston's entire 'stitch-up' argument is apparently based on a shadow cabinet member telling him that delegate selection was 'organised' to favour Corbyn. https://twitter.com/JustMeBeingMe4/status/1176196904633417728 Ratjaculation posted:Can you update the copyright at the bottom from 2 years ago - it bugs me and i fear anyone can just steal my political quips I think someone tried this once and it actually broke the forums
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jabby posted:Peston's entire 'stitch-up' argument is apparently based on a shadow cabinet member telling him that delegate selection was 'organised' to favour Corbyn. It wasn't close enough (seriously, there was a cheer throughout the hall as the Nos raised their hands - people knew they'd won, and the chair was just at the wrong angle to see it right), and card votes of that many delegates take ages to count.
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its honestly incredible that our current PM won't give a straight answer when asked how many kids he has
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Won't more like can't - in all fairness it's not like even he knows himself how many he's got...
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Oh my god I didn't realise it was the same person who wrote that hilarious sequence of articles in the guardian.
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Holy poo poo that's perfect
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WhatEvil posted:SomethingAwful has XKeyScore triggers I believe. There was a big list published ages ago. Failed Imagineer posted:feel like you're overlooking a pretty obvious recent socialist song choice Zuud is easily one of the most messed up video game backstories I have ever read. jabby posted:Peston's entire 'stitch-up' argument is apparently based on a shadow cabinet member telling him that delegate selection was 'organised' to favour Corbyn. What a loving toad.
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Beefeater1980 posted:Bella Ciao is legit amazing, and No Pasarán is p good as well. I had no idea Bella Ciao had all these international versions, pretty cool discovery! The original one's lyrics are centered around self sacrifice - as traditional with most Italian patriotic stuff, including the national anthem. "Bella Ciao" - the partisan's salute to his beloved before leaving to fight - is of course repeated multiple times, intertwined with the main lyrics, that are: quote:One morning I woke up EDIT vvvvvvv: nice! That Italian Guy fucked around with this message at 09:47 on Sep 24, 2019 |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50GvkAO0OIg
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GOOD NEWS EVERYONE! https://twitter.com/MikeGapes/status/1176253558775320582 Fairly sure he's the first of the Continuity CUKTIG to declare they'll be standing as an independent in their old constituency. This might be an interesting benchmark for their level of basic self-awareness - Chuka etc quickly realised they had absolutely no personal power base or even name recognition in their own constituency, and no means to raise sufficient funds to change that, so they had to get with the only party left that would take them. Gapesy though - possibly through the actions of the RP crew coming up to him in a succession of false noses and moustaches to tell them how much they love him - genuinely believes he's popular enough to regain a seat that went 75% Labour at the last election. That's some primo loving delusion right there.
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Perhaps mike gapes is actually miggledy higgens in a prosthesis, playing a big practical joke on the english.
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OwlFancier posted:Perhaps mike gapes is actually miggledy higgens in a prosthesis, playing a big practical joke on the english. He's two cows in a suit. See if you can guess where they're from!
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Huh, according to that facebook memories thing, Corbyn was elected leader three years ago today. Feels more like it was more like about a thousand years ago.
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That Italian Guy posted:I had no idea Bella Ciao had all these international versions, pretty cool discovery! The original one's lyrics are centered around self sacrifice - as traditional with most Italian patriotic stuff, including the national anthem. Actually it's even better, Bella Ciao is a sort of adaptation of a popular folk song that rice farmers sang for a very long time in various forms but generally it was about how back-breaking and exploitative the work is, but it holds hope for some kind of revolution in the future. Also, a quick note - "bella ciao" doesn't mean "goodbye beautiful" in all contexts, it can also mean "hello dear", very much how the mondines would have greeted each other in the morning and such https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CW6l-A1rnk (one version) quote:In the morning I got up So Bella Ciao is Correct as gently caress. I personally prefer the mondine version Pochoclo fucked around with this message at 00:36 on Sep 24, 2019 |
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Long article from Jewdas website on Labour and anti-semitism smears: https://www.jewdas.org/antisemitismsmears/ quote:Smears, evidence and free speech: Breaking the vicious cycle of Labour’s antisemitism rows
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goddamnedtwisto posted:GOOD NEWS EVERYONE! Thank you gapesy for a guarantee of at least one golden nugget on election night 
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As a Canadian who's just here to watch Brexit drama, what's the basis of this whole 'Cobyn is antisemetic' meme anyway? Is it purely that he's pro-Palestinian?
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Yes, it's like a lava lamp.
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Sanitary Naptime posted:Thank you gapesy for a guarantee of at least one golden nugget on election night Humiwkiation for loser Gapes
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PittTheElder posted:As a Canadian who's just here to watch Brexit drama, what's the basis of this whole 'Cobyn is antisemetic' meme anyway? Is it purely that he's pro-Palestinian? The article Jaeluni posted seems quite comprehensive. Broadly, antisemitism is a problem for the left because it's kind of like the moron's version of anticapitalism, not helped by the fact that the nazis, historic and present, spent a huge amount of effort to conflate the two as a recruiting tactic, so you have to watch out for stealth antisemites. Despite the fact that the left is generally less antisemitic than the general public, there's a specific brand of it that we have to be vigilant for. The press jumped on it because they hate left wing politics and want to manufacture trouble. The worst problem is that it makes it really hard to actually deal with real antisemitism in the labour party when people are just using it as a political football. The labour party doesn't have an institutional problem with it but that's all the more reason to make sure we stay that way. Plus when the entire media is using Judaism as a method to bash the labour party, it kind of breeds antisemitism. OwlFancier fucked around with this message at 01:05 on Sep 24, 2019 |
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For anyone sick of the 'stitch up' narrative the media are now pushing, here's a link to the recorded live stream of the vote. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IfyGRZi4wL4&t=1283s They only show the wide shot of the 'For' vote very briefly, but if you pause on that it's clearly considerably less hands than the 'Against' a moment later. Hence the cheer that goes up straight away, it was an obvious result for anyone in the room. Considering this footage, it's incredibly annoying that journalists keep posting bullshit like this. WATCH THE VIDEO. https://twitter.com/krishgm/status/1176282833532440579
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PittTheElder posted:As a Canadian who's just here to watch Brexit drama, what's the basis of this whole 'Cobyn is antisemetic' meme anyway? Is it purely that he's pro-Palestinian? One or two ministers have said stupid poo poo in the past. Corbyn has publicly stayed a position opposed to illegal expansion by the current Israeli government. Because of how volatile the existence of Israel is, it's very easy to twist a position of 'Israel should fall back to it's internationally agreed borders' into 'Israel should not exist at all'* to muddy the debate. This position has been deliberately and maliciously combined with the previous two points by a hostile press to create the illusion of a problem with antisemitism in the party. The reason it's so insidious is because if Corbyn acts on it, he's admitting it exists and is a problem. If he doesn't, he's refusing to acknowledge it which is even more antisemitic. Unfortunately the chuckleheads in charge have overplayed their hand, and now most people don't believe it, the racists don't care and Jewish organisations (that aren't fronted by non-jewish wreckers) are starting to come out and say the whole thing is daft. * If you say 'Israel should get off Palestinian land' for example, trolls will assume you mean Israelia civilians should get off the former palestinian land entirely, which is an entirely different argument.
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Some screenshots of the vote. Took five minutes and disproves the main story on the front page of a national newspaper no less. Hands for: https://imgur.com/a/APaKgvN Hands against: https://imgur.com/a/8wC2hhh
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