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Binary Logic posted:Jan 23 is my birthday, thanks for this great gift, Star Trek! Just as likely to be the worst gift ever if we are being real here.
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Maybe I'm too harsh but that Picard trailer really didn't make me optimistic, seems like it's basically Nostalgia + generic "save the world" adventure plot that is dragging grandpa Picard along with some kids for the action. I have a bad feeling about this.
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Oct 6, 2019 17:38
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I mean hopefully Chabon is keeping Stewart’s sometimes uh, “creative” suggestions in check.
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Oct 6, 2019 18:01
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Maybe they've taken to heart some of the blowback against recent Trek for being depressing, tone deaf and outright nonsensical, but the fact that they're leaning hard into the fanservice again doesn't really bode well and if you take all the references out of that trailer you're not left with much
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Oct 6, 2019 18:04
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Watch the two trailers back to back and it’s obvious whatever went wrong with the federation starts with the Picard series. Both seasons are going to end with a crossover where Disco and a bunch of TNG cast in XXL uniforms save the future.
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Oct 6, 2019 18:23
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Also glad to see Will has picked up Deanna’s love for hot fudge sundaes.
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Oct 6, 2019 18:26
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Picard saying the Federation needs to return to its ideals is...worrisome to me. We'll see though because it's not like I'm going to stop paying for All Access or anything crazy like that.
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Oct 6, 2019 18:46
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Humerus posted:We'll see though because it's not like I'm going to start paying for All Access or anything crazy like that.
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Oct 6, 2019 18:52
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Tighclops posted:Maybe they've taken to heart some of the blowback against recent Trek for being depressing, tone deaf and outright nonsensical, but the fact that they're leaning hard into the fanservice again doesn't really bode well and if you take all the references out of that trailer you're not left with much FWIW, my girlfriend who doesnt like Star Trek said she would watch it because it looked like an emotional story about an old man that was about something besides pew pew.
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Oct 6, 2019 18:57
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Drink-Mix Man posted:FWIW, my girlfriend who doesnt like Star Trek said she would watch it because it looked like an emotional story about an old man that was about something besides pew pew. Your girlfriend has a fetish for octogenarians.
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Oct 6, 2019 18:59
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Humerus posted:Picard saying the Federation needs to return to its ideals is...worrisome to me. We'll see though because it's not like I'm going to stop paying for All Access or anything crazy like that. The Federation becoming timid and closed in after the Dominion War seems reasonable to me. Not LOL FEDERATION BAD but I could see Starfleet command thinking maybe poking around everywhere isn't a great idea after getting both the Borg and the Dominion's attention in a relatively short period of time. Plus whatever went wrong with Picard's mission to the Romulans. Grand Fromage fucked around with this message at 19:04 on Oct 6, 2019 |
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Oct 6, 2019 19:02
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It’s going to be an emotional story about an old man while a bunch of young people do the pew pew around him, with the exception of a fencing match for some reason.
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Oct 6, 2019 19:07
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I'll pay for all access while the seasons are being released for both Discovery and Picard so they keep making Trek. I'll still go to Sweden though for sweet sweet archive copies.
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Oct 6, 2019 19:34
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Pick posted:We don't know if it's the biggest. The maps are largely unofficial and 2d also. To be fair our galaxy is 2d-ish as well, it's not a ridiculous way to represent things.
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Oct 6, 2019 19:39
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Re: how tired PStew sounds, he's definitely exaggerating it quite a bit for the role. I recently watched an interview with him and a few co-stars and he does certainly sound older and sort of "slower" in a way (like speaking in more measured tones), but not anywhere near that "tired."feedmegin posted:To be fair our galaxy is 2d-ish as well, it's not a ridiculous way to represent things. Yeah but it's still about 1000 light years thick. Otoh, it's about 100,000 light years across, so with a diameter/height ratio of 100:1, you can definitely say it's "thin" so I dunno. Hipster_Doofus fucked around with this message at 19:47 on Oct 6, 2019 |
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Oct 6, 2019 19:43
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CPColin posted:Rene survived the fire and joined Section 31 The fire was a deep cover black op, both Robert and Rene are fine, just working off world for Section 31. TraderStav posted:I'll pay for all access while the seasons are being released for both Discovery and Picard so they keep making Trek. I'll still go to Sweden though for sweet sweet archive copies. They'll keep making Trek as it is now, which is why I'm not paying for All Access. I'm also not obtaining archive copies or watching it by any other means though (at least Disco, jury's out on Picard yet)
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Oct 6, 2019 19:56
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I've decided I'm still pretty excited about Picard. I mean, Data looks weird but it's far from the dumbest looking thing in Star Trek. The show looks partly like something I always wanted from the TNG movies, which is to see the characters go through different phases in life and get into different types of stories rather than 2-hour big budget episodes.
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Oct 6, 2019 20:01
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There are at least a million trekkies out there that will pay for more Star Trek regardless if they hate it or not, CBS doesn't really need your help if that's influencing your choices at all
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Oct 6, 2019 20:44
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Tighclops posted:There are at least a million trekkies out there that will pay for more Star Trek regardless if they hate it or not, CBS doesn't really need your help if that's influencing your choices at all It's not Just lol at the idea of throwing money at a huge media conglomerate as a show of support, as if I'm supporting a small mom and pop startup or something
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Oct 6, 2019 20:55
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Really nostalgia + Patrick Stewart's talent for elevating sub par material means I'll probably enjoy the Picard show a lot even if it's pretty bad.
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Oct 6, 2019 21:04
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Drink-Mix Man posted:I've decided I'm still pretty excited about Picard. I mean, Data looks weird but it's far from the dumbest looking thing in Star Trek. I was thinking recently how all the Star Trek movies, including the TOS ones, didn't do enough with the concept of 'years later'. Like, sure Kirk was briefly an admiral, Bones and Spock away, Chekov on the Reliant, Sulu a captain - shake things up more like that! I guess you can only do a 'putting the band back together' story once without it being stupid, but yeah. TNG at the very least should've had a movie where Captain Riker has the Enterprise, Geordi his own command, Data's off somewhere else.
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Oct 6, 2019 21:11
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CPColin posted:I laughed at the Vasquez Rocks cameo in the Picard trailer! same
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Oct 6, 2019 21:25
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Grand Fromage posted:The Federation becoming timid and closed in after the Dominion War seems reasonable to me. Not LOL FEDERATION BAD but I could see Starfleet command thinking maybe poking around everywhere isn't a great idea after getting both the Borg and the Dominion's attention in a relatively short period of time. Plus whatever went wrong with Picard's mission to the Romulans. As for their size I got the feeling that the Federales were the biggest dog on the block but were neither so big that other nations weren't credible threats or that an alliance of two would have put them on the backfoot. The Dominion seemed to clearly be economically/militarily more powerful than they, but limited by access through the wormhole. The Feds were also big enough that the Dominion couldn't beat them before the weakness in the species they used as their proxies of power became glaring and apparent. It seemed pretty clear that the Dominion was also not, culturally, used to losing conflicts, and I expect their go-to response to major reverses (especially if they threatened the personal safety of a Founder) was to just start exterminating the indigenous population, even if this accomplished nothing as it did on Cardassia.
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Oct 6, 2019 21:39
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So with Data in the field, maybe Picard is hallucinating him instead of having a holodeck program like it seemed in the last trailer. Or Picard has a ton of holosuite programs of Data in various positions.
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Oct 6, 2019 21:51
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It would be interesting if he still has that space Alzheimer's
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Oct 6, 2019 21:52
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Thom12255 posted:So with Data in the field, maybe Picard is hallucinating him instead of having a holodeck program like it seemed in the last trailer. Or Picard has a ton of holosuite programs of Data in various positions. He's also in his D uniform so I'm guessing dream.
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Oct 6, 2019 21:54
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Drink-Mix Man posted:It would be interesting if he still has that space Alzheimer's Oh poo poo. I mean in AGT, didn’t they imply that’s still in his future, but it won’t take hold just yet?
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Oct 6, 2019 22:00
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HD DAD posted:Oh poo poo. I mean in AGT, didn’t they imply that’s still in his future, but it won’t take hold just yet? Also Troi dies in that future I didn’t realize that this show is supposed to be set around 2399/2400 (20 years after Nemesis which is in 2379). Romulus blows up in 2387 so this is way after that
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Oct 6, 2019 22:45
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davidspackage posted:I was thinking recently how all the Star Trek movies, including the TOS ones, didn't do enough with the concept of 'years later'. Like, sure Kirk was briefly an admiral, Bones and Spock away, Chekov on the Reliant, Sulu a captain - shake things up more like that! I guess you can only do a 'putting the band back together' story once without it being stupid, but yeah. TNG at the very least should've had a movie where Captain Riker has the Enterprise, Geordi his own command, Data's off somewhere else.
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Oct 6, 2019 23:01
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Drink-Mix Man posted:I've decided I'm still pretty excited about Picard. I mean, Data looks weird but it's far from the dumbest looking thing in Star Trek. I have been excited from the very start because SirPatStew, but I readily admit it will be a tragedy if, basically as a worst case scenario, his performance is great and maybe even his lines are great, but the entire rest of the show is flaming dogshit. Awful enough that even the presence of pstew does nothing to make it better. This would be extremely for me (and p much everyone here), but thankfully there are enough people out there eating up any Trek Dreck that CBS can poo poo out, so I'm not too worried about the "damaging the entire franchise" angle.
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Oct 7, 2019 00:19
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Hipster_Doofus posted:I'm not too worried about the "damaging the entire franchise" angle. The franchise has been so damaged at this point I don't think about this at all either.
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Oct 7, 2019 00:27
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That's one positive aspect of our current copyright laws. If you want Star Trek you gotta put up with whatever junk CBS puts out, because nobody else is allowed to make it for probably another 50+ years.
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Oct 7, 2019 00:34
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FlamingLiberal posted:That future was created by Q so I wouldn’t think it’s reliable Bev does some tests and finds precursors to the space Alzheimer's in the present though.
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Oct 7, 2019 00:45
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Drink-Mix Man posted:It's not That's why you should donate to Axanar!
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Oct 7, 2019 01:59
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I wonder if the way that Generation and Voyager ended with big forecasts of the future are what caused the franchise to abandon continuing the timeline for so long. Something about writers not wanting to confront those future details yet somehow don't want to try doing a new start leaving behind most of the previous series like Next Generation did at its beginning. Or maybe Enterprise was its own thing for its own reasons, but the weird time travel junk that IT brought in threatened to confuse the canon too much. And eventually they decided that the exact specific characters and setting of the original series were the real Star Trek that the franchise needed to get back to and made the new movies.
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Oct 7, 2019 02:03
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How the gently caress does Jake get his apartment so messy in 9 hours. Did he change clothes 5 times that day?
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Oct 7, 2019 02:04
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I was expecting the Admiral that Picard is yelling with to be Janeway again. This series basically looks like Discovery but with the budget to milk TNG nostalgia since trying to go back to the well of milking TOS has dried up now TEN YEARS AFTER JJTREK (jesus christ time flies). But I guess we can thank Discovery for lowering the bar so loving much that I guess this doesn't have to do much to at least be better than that? I'll laff if it is somehow worse though.
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Oct 7, 2019 02:05
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AlBorlantern Corps posted:How the gently caress does Jake get his apartment so messy in 9 hours.
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Oct 7, 2019 02:09
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AlBorlantern Corps posted:How the gently caress does Jake get his apartment so messy in 9 hours. You have to replicate a lot of clothes to gradually approach the ugliest possible outfit.
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Badass Sisko quote: "I didn't beg, I blackmailed you." This episode Rivals is pretty good so far. I am wondering what the hell the deal with this magic 8-ball gambling machine is. Like, I know it's going to lead to the con man's ruin, it's "cursed," but what's the appeal of it? A random number generator with lights? Is there something going on I am missing or are we just supposed to accept it for the plot device it is?
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