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Tayter Swift
Nov 18, 2002

Pillbug

Sydin posted:

The fire in Calimesa was caused by a trash truck that dumped a load of burning trash that spread into vegetation, officials said.

"Oh poo poo, the garbage is on fire! I'll just quickly dump it on the side of the road, what's the worst that could happen?"

Hell of a way to describe the Dodgers but I'll allow it

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Sydin
Oct 29, 2011

Another spring commute

Tayter Swift posted:

Hell of a way to describe the Dodgers but I'll allow it

:chanpop:

Stay safe SoCal goons!

FCKGW
May 21, 2006

Parts of IE on fire as usual as well.

Megaman's Jockstrap
Jul 16, 2000

What a horrible thread to have a post.

CPColin posted:

The humidity in Los Angeles is forecast to hit a low of 6% today :stare:

In 100 years SoCal is going to be hundreds of square miles of empty suburbs that are stripped for materials along with a couple of coastal cities that spend half the year in the 90s and 100s. Wish I could be alive to see this surreal hellscape but alas I'll be dead from the water wars or old age.

Fill Baptismal
Dec 15, 2008
LA is near the coast and will still exist. Some of the sprawling suburbs probably aren’t viable but SoCal as a whole will still be a major population center.

It’s places like Vegas and Phoenix that are going to be gone.

FCKGW
May 21, 2006

SoCal is predicted to get wetter winters actually, with El Nino storms becoming more and more common with the oceans heating.

Summers will suck and we effectively lose and semblance of Fall tho.

Cup Runneth Over
Aug 8, 2009

She said life's
Too short to worry
Life's too long to wait
It's too short
Not to love everybody
Life's too long to hate


It's just going to be Fallout but regular desert instead of nuclear desert.

Craptacular!
Jul 9, 2001

Fuck the DH

Kill Bristol posted:

It’s places like Vegas and Phoenix that are going to be gone.

Vegas is reusing water, toilet to tap style, and very close and downhill from it's water source (which would be sufficient if it didn't have to share it with CA and AZ.) We are almost ideal for a desert city and Phoenix is the total opposite.

Phoenix is actually uphill from their primary water source, and uses this waste of engineering. For Tucson in particular a pumping plant has to move water 2,000 feet upward.

dream9!bed!!
Jan 9, 2019

by VideoGames

Craptacular! posted:

Vegas is reusing water, toilet to tap style, and very close and downhill from it's water source (which would be sufficient if it didn't have to share it with CA and AZ.) We are almost ideal for a desert city and Phoenix is the total opposite.

Phoenix is actually uphill from their primary water source, and uses this waste of engineering. For Tucson in particular a pumping plant has to move water 2,000 feet upward.

And all of these cities just steal from Colorado

VideoGameVet
May 14, 2005

It is by caffeine alone I set my bike in motion. It is by the juice of Java that pedaling acquires speed, the teeth acquire stains, stains become a warning. It is by caffeine alone I set my bike in motion.

Infinite Karma posted:

That's a pretty Boomer grudge to hold 45 years later. Not because Prop 13 is unjust, but because it didn't personally benefit you? If your wife kept her job but a different teacher got laid off decades ago, you'd have no problem with the law?

I still would because my wife and I are socialists. She also got an environmental studies degree after the teaching didn't work out and went to work at the EPA in the 1980s.

Megaman's Jockstrap
Jul 16, 2000

What a horrible thread to have a post.

FCKGW posted:

SoCal is predicted to get wetter winters actually, with El Nino storms becoming more and more common with the oceans heating.

Summers will suck and we effectively lose and semblance of Fall tho.

I heard that it was going to move toward like 10 years of drought followed by 10 years of wet.

https://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-drought-flood-20180423-story.html

Kill Bristol posted:

LA is near the coast and will still exist. Some of the sprawling suburbs probably aren’t viable but SoCal as a whole will still be a major population center.

I agree but every indication is we're going to hit 4C and that means that Riverside is going to be hovering around 120 degrees for 3 months of the year and probably have a handful of 130 degree days. It's just not going to be economically viable to live here anymore, much less in hothouses like Victorville, Menifee, etc. LA and San Diego have too much money in them to abandon IMO.

All the orange groves (and most other native plants) will be dead, the weather will be miserable, and the economy will have cratered due to all of the other crap that comes with 4C. People won't live here anymore.

Megaman's Jockstrap fucked around with this message at 00:46 on Oct 12, 2019

Dr. Fraiser Chain
May 18, 2004

Redlining my shit posting machine


Not to mention sea level rise and loss of water storage as snow pack in the mountains. Climate change probably going to kill billions and that's really not a joke

Fill Baptismal
Dec 15, 2008
Most projections for the IE have it ending up where Phoenix is now, except with a wetter winter. lovely, but still viable. Larger, more economically important areas like Riverside have a good chance of still being around in a century, particularly because they’re growing right now.

Places like Victorville that are already struggling are gonna dry and die though, yes.

We’re gonna see a retreat to urban centers that can be efficiently cooled is my prediction. The suburbs are a thing of the past (good loving riddance).

Fill Baptismal fucked around with this message at 02:42 on Oct 12, 2019

Sundae
Dec 1, 2005

Infinite Karma posted:

That's a pretty Boomer grudge to hold 45 years later. Not because Prop 13 is unjust, but because it didn't personally benefit you? If your wife kept her job but a different teacher got laid off decades ago, you'd have no problem with the law?

How did you read so much utter horseshit between the lines of a one-line post?

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose
This is an Extremely California tweet:

https://twitter.com/SpeakerPelosi/status/1182823527046627328

WAR CRIME GIGOLO
Oct 3, 2012

The Hague
tryna get me
for these glutes


Chard
Aug 24, 2010




cast pelosi into the sea

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose
Just :lol: at the posters siding with Jacob Wohl.

CopperHound
Feb 14, 2012

Vincent Van Goatse posted:

Just :lol: at the posters siding with Jacob Wohl.
Ugh... How is that tool able to repeatedly force himself into the spotlight?

Wicked Them Beats
Apr 1, 2007

Moralists don't really *have* beliefs. Sometimes they stumble on one, like on a child's toy left on the carpet. The toy must be put away immediately. And the child reprimanded.

If you consider holding press conferences attended by one or two bored reporters on the Twitter beat and a dozen or so hecklers being "in the spotlight" then it's possible that any of us could achieve those lofty heights. All you need is a reputation for vile lies and a line on the maid that had to clean the hotel rooms where Bill and Barack held their secret love trysts and you're off to the races.

Centrist Committee
Aug 6, 2019
It's a comedy performance, and therefore owns.

Cup Runneth Over
Aug 8, 2009

She said life's
Too short to worry
Life's too long to wait
It's too short
Not to love everybody
Life's too long to hate


Wohl is a living Daily Mail headline

America Inc.
Nov 22, 2013

I plan to live forever, of course, but barring that I'd settle for a couple thousand years. Even 500 would be pretty nice.
So I'm going to ask some questions about the PG&E outages because I'm curious what the popular opinion is:

- Should PG&E be socialized?
- Alternatively, should PG&E be broken up?
- Should we focus more state resources on burying power lines? Is this a worthwhile action to reduce the risk of wildfires?

Looking at previous posts it seems there is support here for the first option.

Doc Hawkins
Jun 15, 2010

Dashing? But I'm not even moving!


"Municipalized" is the correct term, I believe. And yes, obviously, many people ITT think that would be good, but I don't know what that has to do with popular opinion.

Other people have already pointed out that properly maintaining the trees along high tension lines costs vastly less than burying them, but we can do both.

e:

https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1182806108919910400

Doc Hawkins fucked around with this message at 02:13 on Oct 14, 2019

drilldo squirt
Aug 18, 2006

a beautiful, soft meat sack
Clapping Larry
That's very sad.

CopperHound
Feb 14, 2012

This is lovely reporting, but it is even more lovely for the dead person and their family.

America Inc.
Nov 22, 2013

I plan to live forever, of course, but barring that I'd settle for a couple thousand years. Even 500 would be pretty nice.

Doc Hawkins posted:

"Municipalized" is the correct term, I believe. And yes, obviously, many people ITT think that would be good, but I don't know what that has to do with popular opinion.

In terms of California as a whole, no, opinion here is not very reflective. I was interested more in the "popular opinion" of the posters here.

Thanks for mentioning tree maintenance, that's a point I hadn't heard of before, but it makes sense.

Fill Baptismal
Dec 15, 2008
It's an interesting question, but it's not something that high quality polls get regularly done on, I'd imagine. My educated guess is that cities taking over would probably be a lot more popular than the state government, even though imo that's the ideal soloution because this kinda poo poo should be regionally managed rather than lots of little fiefdoms.

Couple of places have voted for municipal fiber/internet, so it's something that the electorate can be persuaded on.

Arsenic Lupin
Apr 12, 2012

This particularly rapid💨 unintelligible 😖patter💁 isn't generally heard🧏‍♂️, and if it is🤔, it doesn't matter💁.


dream9!bed!! posted:

And all of these cities just steal from Colorado Mexico

Megaman's Jockstrap
Jul 16, 2000

What a horrible thread to have a post.

Kill Bristol posted:

Most projections for the IE have it ending up where Phoenix is now, except with a wetter winter. lovely, but still viable.

Not at 4C+ my friend, which is where we're going.

VideoGameVet
May 14, 2005

It is by caffeine alone I set my bike in motion. It is by the juice of Java that pedaling acquires speed, the teeth acquire stains, stains become a warning. It is by caffeine alone I set my bike in motion.

Megaman's Jockstrap posted:

Not at 4C+ my friend, which is where we're going.

I keep looking for how that DOESN'T happen and I'm not seeing it.

We're skating close to a wet-bulb temp of >35ºC event happening. Most people have no clue.

Megaman's Jockstrap
Jul 16, 2000

What a horrible thread to have a post.

VideoGameVet posted:

I keep looking for how that DOESN'T happen and I'm not seeing it.

We're skating close to a wet-bulb temp of >35ºC event happening. Most people have no clue.

My analogy is a toddler that drank a huge glass of lethal poison from which there is no andidote and now has a tummy ache and runs to Mom thinking they can fix it. The process is not fixable. They're dead.

edit: the post below also works and doesn't involve kid death

Megaman's Jockstrap fucked around with this message at 23:08 on Oct 14, 2019

Leperflesh
May 17, 2007

My analogy is that the house is on fire, and the fire is spreading, and there are people standing around saying "the house is not on fire" and others saying "perhaps although the house is on fire there will be very little damage" and still other people going "the house is on fire but it's not our fault and there's nothing we can do without it costing quite a lot of money." Meanwhile, we need to put out the loving fire, and then, and only then, will we be able to assess the extent of the damage and consider what we may be able to do to begin repairs and how much that will cost (and of course the house will never be the same again no matter what we do).

In this analogy there's also a lot of people standing around throwing extra wood into the house and lighting more matches and poo poo, it's some kind of hosed up community arson attempt, look analogies only go so far

HelloSailorSign
Jan 27, 2011

Megaman's Jockstrap posted:

My analogy is a toddler that drank a huge glass of lethal poison from which there is no andidote and now has a tummy ache and runs to Mom thinking they can fix it. The process is not fixable. They're dead.

edit: the post below also works and doesn't involve kid death

If your first analogies of death involve kids dying, you should see your therapist.

Sundae
Dec 1, 2005
It's like if HelloSailorSign was on fire and we all argued about whether or not he was on fire, or what the extent of the damage would be, and all the while we were doing so, more people were adding wood to the fire like it's some sort of community arson attempt.

Which it was. Because we all want HelloSailorSign to be on fire. Burn HelloSailorSign burn.

And besides, who are we to say that extreme temperature events in the vicinity of HelloSailorSign aren't cyclical in nature?

Sundae fucked around with this message at 01:17 on Oct 15, 2019

HelloSailorSign
Jan 27, 2011

All I'm hearing is that people think I'm hot.

:smith:

Complications
Jun 19, 2014

No, it's literally the opposite. If you were hot we'd be talking about a bunch of people dumping ice on you.

Snipee
Mar 27, 2010
Humanity is collectively trapped in a car speeding towards an unpaved and uncharted route that almost all of the experts and engineers have warned us is extremely dangerous with the notable exception of those few engineers hired by the assholes with rights to collect toll money from this path.

A number of the more aware passengers are yelling at the driver to slow down and find another route, but many of them internally disagree about how hard they should slam on the brakes and how they should best choose an alternative route. Unfortunately, a large number of people are also encouraging the driver to continue down this uncharted path. This group consists of some people that sincerely believe that almost all of the experts without conflicts of interest are proven to be wrong because of talk radio, cable news, or a YouTube video, more people that are simply acting out of spite since they are holding on a petty grudge against the guys asking to change the car’s trajectory, some of them that think changing our trajectory now would be too costly or that it’s not fair that some passengers has to pay more for the change in direction than others, and not a small amount of nutjobs that think that it’s fine regardless of what happens because the rapture is coming within our lifetimes anyways.

Meanwhile, the majority of people are rather passive and doing nothing besides maybe opening an ethically vegan window to create some drag and to slow down the process, and as the driver does nothing to either press the brakes or to change direction, the momentum from having previously accelerated so much down this path and the irresponsible continued use of the gas pedal is taking us deeper and deeper into unknown territory.

Basically, we’re hosed.

Snipee fucked around with this message at 03:04 on Oct 15, 2019

Sundae
Dec 1, 2005

Snipee posted:

Meanwhile, the majority of people are rather passive and doing nothing besides maybe opening an ethically vegan window to create some drag and to slow down the process, and as the driver does nothing to either press the brakes or to change direction, the momentum from having previously accelerated so much down this path and the irresponsible continued use of the gas pedal is taking us deeper and deeper into unknown territory.

Basically, we’re hosed.

If speeding down the highway has taught me anything, we'll have our choice of at least fourteen Cracker Barrels to stop at along the way.

(So yeah, we're hosed.)

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slicing up eyeballs
Oct 19, 2005

I got me two olives and a couple of limes


Everyone should go to therapy regardless. Now, imagine four climates on the edge of a cliff

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