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LA Times and Futuro are doing a Serial-style podcast called “This Is California”. Their first installment is a short 3 part series on Prop 187. I listened to the first couple episodes and it’s pretty good https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2019-10-15/prop-187-this-is-california-battle-podcast
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not sure why you use the word "but" here, if you want a socialist things line a humane healthcare system or an education system that doesnt consign students to a lifetime of debt peonage you certainly arent going to get those from democrats
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Just going to bring this up respirators one more time in case anyone needs half face masks because California Never Not On Fire... the 3M ones I mentioned just dropped down to their Amazon historical low price of $12.65 a piece (not including filters which are linked in the quote): Medium: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008MCUT86/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1 Large: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008MCUULW/ref=ox_sc_mini_detail?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER BeAuMaN posted:I'd be curious about this too, though I recommend the usual 3M 7000 series facemask: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008MCUULW/
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Shear Modulus posted:not sure why you use the word "but" here, if you want a socialist things line a humane healthcare system or an education system that doesnt consign students to a lifetime of debt peonage you certainly arent going to get those from democrats They are talking about Republican voters
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Does anyone have a good resource on the Voting Centers LA is doing for 2020? I'm wary of any major change to voting locations and I suspect this will be a clusterfuck.
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slicing up eyeballs posted:Oh yeah, Erin Edwards looks like a huge improvement. I'm sad it went to runoff instead of her winning outright but fingers crossed for tomorrow. Seriously lol, I had no idea
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Nov 5, 2019 20:11
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Hawkperson posted:Seriously lol, I had no idea I went to UC Riverside, do I count? (I'm in LA now)
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Nov 5, 2019 20:52
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Absolutely. Welcome. We have the Food Lab.
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Note the lack of any positive adjectives; “it exists” is like the nicest thing you can say about that place.
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Shear Modulus posted:not sure why you use the word "but" here, if you want a socialist things line a humane healthcare system or an education system that doesnt consign students to a lifetime of debt peonage you certainly arent going to get those from democrats What party are socialists AOC & Bernie a part of? I know the democrats don’t want that. It’s in reference to how republicans perceive things - specifically the Dems being the party of Everything Free, even though that’s not remotely true.
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slicing up eyeballs posted:Oh yeah, Erin Edwards looks like a huge improvement. I'm sad it went to runoff instead of her winning outright but fingers crossed for tomorrow. The boomers on NextDoor are starting to throw a poo poo-fit as it appears Erin is beating Gardner with an almost 1,000 vote difference.
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Zuul the Cat posted:What party are socialists AOC & Bernie a part of? Believe it or not, those are not considered among the farthest left people in the US. I know this isn't CSPAM but that should be more common knowledge. They're the leftmost people who are given any power or media airtime, which is something different. Even this morning a video I watched (Jimmy Dore probably) mentioned AOC and Bernie as center dems, riding the popularity of socialism without actually calling for it. The left is a real thing that is separate and totally removed from power in the US, and the dems are not it. Even the leftmost dems, which are The Squad and Bernie, are dems, the only truly worthwhile dems yes, but dems as opposed to outspoken Marxists. The latter simply would not be allowed such authority. The bulk of the dem party hopes that everyone will fall for their corporate candidates saying that they hate Trump enough that they must be the opposite of him, whatever it means to be the opposite of someone. On a continuum from fascism to marxism, they are not that opposite; they are still believers that the meritocracy works as intended and no grand overhaul is needed. Happy Thread fucked around with this message at 09:44 on Nov 6, 2019 |
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Nov 6, 2019 09:40
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bernie is in fact not a democrat
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Hawkperson posted:Note the lack of any positive adjectives; “it exists” is like the nicest thing you can say about that place. I like the Food Lab but it's kind of an inside joke about how for the longest time they were just like "RIVERSIDE is getting THE FOOD LAB" and literally nothing else about it. Cracked me and my IRL Riverside buds up.
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Again, I understand your points but I think you guys are missing mine. I'm not saying how thingsare, I'm talking about how the right pereceives them to be. It doesn't matter that Bernie is not actually a Democrat or that he and AOC aren't the farthest left politicians in the country. The right views them as such. My original point is that Republicans in my area want things that are considered by Republicans to be socialist policies, yet refuse to be a part of the party they consider socialist (the Democrats). Whether you think the Dems are capable of delivering things like universal healthcare or education reform is pretty moot, since right now they're the only side discussing it (Warren, Bernie, AOC, etc.) while the other side talks about privatization or "you entered into a deal and you have to pay it off." This is a bit of a derail from CA politics and sliding into national politics - my apologies. I was trying to make my point a little more clear.
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I think you're essentially discussing the Overton Window, and it's worth making sure everyone knows what that is. But also that the prominence of Bernie Sanders hopefully is shifting that window a little to the left, after Republicans have spent 60 years successfully shifting it to the right.
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Zuul the Cat posted:This is a bit of a derail from CA politics and sliding into national politics - my apologies. I was trying to make my point a little more clear. It's fine. One of the things I think that often gets overlooked is that most people are not ideological. They have essentially an incoherent view of society, economics, and policy. It's a weird grab bag and you get poo poo like 31% of Bernie voters list Biden as their first alternate choice, which is insanity.
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Looks like Xavier Becerra is taking some kind of legal action against Facebook, dont have a ton of context yet https://www.oag.ca.gov/ Currently streaming a press conference Looks like its trying to get a court to enforce a bunch of subpeonas that Facebook has been ignoring Edit: https://twitter.com/ceciliakang/status/1192159161007693828 The Glumslinger fucked around with this message at 20:27 on Nov 6, 2019 |
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Nov 6, 2019 20:06
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I like the food lab  , the beers and vegan burgers are tasty. We're getting a route 30 tap room too.Anyone have any good polling on the chances of the prop 13 repeal passing?
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Ah Zuck. Our friendly neighborhood Monarchist Media Mogul.
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I forget. Is it "Can't cuck the Zuck" or "Better cuck Zuck"? I am way behind on my memes.
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Anonymous Zebra posted:The boomers on NextDoor are starting to throw a poo poo-fit as it appears Erin is beating Gardner with an almost 1,000 vote difference. lmao, well it's his fault for apparently not being in the race for half of it. Apparently the city council just got a hell of a lot more progressive, maybe we'll get a goddamn dispensary finally. Food lab is ok, it's a food court big deal. Dhat Island's stand is the best imo - loving beignets!! And tostones!
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Shbobdb posted:I forget. Is it "Can't cuck the Zuck" or "Better cuck Zuck"? I am way behind on my memes. ah I see the Pissflaps Defender has logged on. It's Better Cuck Zuck the cucklefuck
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Kill Bristol posted:I like the food lab I don't think there's any polling this far ahead for ballot propositions. Any votes are still a full year away. But in looking around I did find two more props that will be on the ballot. "Tough on crime" assholes are trying to get rid of Prop 47/AB 109, and the bail bond industry is trying to push through a referendum on the elimination of cash bail. Gotta love a system where every time we make a little progress some regressive shitheels try to throw money at it to send us back into the loving stone age.
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Wicked Them Beats posted:I don't think there's any polling this far ahead for ballot propositions. Any votes are still a full year away. The advertisements are going to be infuriating next year.
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The proposition system is such a loving shitshow, my god. Granted it's not helped by the perfect storm of a largely ignorant electorate, lack of strong political advertising laws, Citizens United, and late stage capitalism. Seemingly every possible poison pill you could slip into a directly democratic process is being used and abused.
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I meant the proposition system specifically, which is at least on paper directly democratic. And also doesn't work well in the greater context of America's politics (ie: a capitalist oligarchy as mentioned).
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Wicked Them Beats posted:I don't think there's any polling this far ahead for ballot propositions. Any votes are still a full year away. Jesus theyre trying to eliminate cash bail Thats some loving bullshit.
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I agree, cash bail is bullshit!
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CPColin posted:I agree, cash bail is bullshit! Maybe I misunderstood is this a referendum to abolish the bail system of paying money for freedom or is it a referendum on having to use a credit card to pay bail??
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Nov 8, 2019 06:09
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CA got rid of cash bail because it was disproportionately hurting the poor. Bail companies want to bring cash bail back.
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RandomPauI posted:CA got rid of cash bail because it was disproportionately hurting the poor. Bail companies want to bring cash bail back. Okay thats bad so cash bail needs to stay DEAD!
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WAR CRIME GIGOLO posted:Okay thats bad so cash bail needs to stay DEAD! Yep! And they are trying to resurrect it from the ashes with a proposition
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"THAT.... 47, is Governor Gavin "Android" Newsom." PARODY, do not black bag me, secret service(or CHP? idk who protects the governor) Fill Baptismal fucked around with this message at 07:05 on Nov 8, 2019 |
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Kill Bristol posted:PARODY, do not black bag me, secret service(or CHP? idk who protects the governor) the ca governor's bodyguard is provided by the militant wing of e clampus vitus, the nation's most embarrassing secret society
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Grand Prize Winner posted:the ca governor's bodyguard is provided by the militant wing of e clampus vitus, the nation's most embarrassing secret society They're really just a bunch of drinkers with a history problem
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The Glumslinger posted:They're really just a bunch of drinkers with a history problem ... Where do I sign up?
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