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Happy Thread
Jul 10, 2005

by Fluffdaddy
Plaster Town Cop

Gee, I wonder whose side that article writer is on

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Grand Prize Winner
Feb 19, 2007


how dare you impugn the neutrality of the Sacramento Bee

Sydin
Oct 29, 2011

Another spring commute

B-b-b-but :decorum: !!!

Doc Hawkins
Jun 15, 2010

Dashing? But I'm not even moving!


quote:

This amateurish and unethical move will hurt, not help, the cause of tenant protection. It’s unlikely that the three groups pushing for the ballot measure – the Alliance of California for Community Empowerment, Democratic Socialists of America and the Sacramento Tenants Union – have the resources to win an expensive ballot battle. That’s why they should seek to maintain a productive working relationship with the City Council. This dishonest strategy kills any chance of that.

we'll see, boomer

Ardeem
Sep 16, 2010

There is no problem that cannot be solved through sufficient application of lasers and friendship.

Well, that wasn't biased at all. Anybody got a source on why she didn't accept the terms?

Pomp
Apr 3, 2012

by Fluffdaddy

Ardeem posted:

Well, that wasn't biased at all. Anybody got a source on why she didn't accept the terms?

The differences on the ballot measure to the council measure make it pretty obvious

https://twitter.com/CalOrganize/status/1192194612737085440?s=19

Pomp fucked around with this message at 00:02 on Nov 9, 2019

Ardeem
Sep 16, 2010

There is no problem that cannot be solved through sufficient application of lasers and friendship.

Pomp posted:

The differences on the ballot measure to the council measure make it pretty obvious


Thanks.

CopperHound
Feb 14, 2012

Grand Prize Winner posted:

how dare you impugn the neutrality of the Sacramento Bee

It isn't uncommon for newspapers to platform nutjobs in their opinion section...

quote:

BY THE SACRAMENTO BEE EDITORIAL BOARD
Oh.
Sign your names to it you cowards!

Leperflesh
May 17, 2007

I love the idea of politicians being shocked at someone on the other side of the table lying about something. For once.

I get that she probably didn't even lie or whatever, but I wouldn't care if she did. It'd be beautiful poetic justice.

Danann
Aug 4, 2013

https://twitter.com/sfchronicle/status/1193326030745931776

:toot:

Shear Modulus
Jun 9, 2010



kamala harris sheds a single tear

Wicked Them Beats
Apr 1, 2007

Moralists don't really *have* beliefs. Sometimes they stumble on one, like on a child's toy left on the carpet. The toy must be put away immediately. And the child reprimanded.

Hope he can actually accomplish some reforms. I worked in a DAs office and I have no doubt that most of the Deputy DAs working under him are going to be a problem.

Anza Borrego
Feb 11, 2005

Ovis canadensis nelsoni

Wicked Them Beats posted:

Hope he can actually accomplish some reforms. I worked in a DAs office and I have no doubt that most of the Deputy DAs working under him are going to be a problem.

Are those appointed positions and, if so, by who? How much power does an incoming DA have to reorganize and replace key staff?

bawfuls
Oct 28, 2009

acab and whatnot
https://twitter.com/voiceofsandiego/status/1193598082539122688?s=21

Happy Thread
Jul 10, 2005

by Fluffdaddy
Plaster Town Cop
Now multiply that by like a thousand because of thin blue line protections

Wicked Them Beats
Apr 1, 2007

Moralists don't really *have* beliefs. Sometimes they stumble on one, like on a child's toy left on the carpet. The toy must be put away immediately. And the child reprimanded.

Anza Borrego posted:

Are those appointed positions and, if so, by who? How much power does an incoming DA have to reorganize and replace key staff?

They're hired by the DA, officially work as employees for the city/county, and may or may not be organized under a bargaining agreement.

As far as replacing staff it's doable but there's a huge bureaucracy in place and just slashing people out has serious potential consequences. You get rid of a problem attorney but oops, all the legal secretaries/paralegals liked him so now you've got all the non-sworn staff either against you or at least suffering a serious morale hit, or you let someone go but it turns out they were the only person who had any expertise in a certain type of case or filing and now you're training someone up from scratch while you scramble to keep up with the caseload.

Odds are he'll replace the Assistant DA since that's the next step down from him, and he might switch up team leads or unit organization, but just coming in and cleaning house probably isn't feasible in the short term. Long-term he'll have control over hiring so if he's in the post for at least a decade he could create a pretty significant culture shift (though the sort of attorney who applies to be a Deputy DA tends towards a more conservative worldview, so he might need to actively recruit if he wants more reform-minded applicants).

Anza Borrego
Feb 11, 2005

Ovis canadensis nelsoni

Just saw that this morning - feeling pretty solid about giving money to VOSD for a few years. Best journalistic outfit in the region, that’s for sure.

Anza Borrego
Feb 11, 2005

Ovis canadensis nelsoni

Wicked Them Beats posted:

They're hired by the DA, officially work as employees for the city/county, and may or may not be organized under a bargaining agreement.

As far as replacing staff it's doable but there's a huge bureaucracy in place and just slashing people out has serious potential consequences. You get rid of a problem attorney but oops, all the legal secretaries/paralegals liked him so now you've got all the non-sworn staff either against you or at least suffering a serious morale hit, or you let someone go but it turns out they were the only person who had any expertise in a certain type of case or filing and now you're training someone up from scratch while you scramble to keep up with the caseload.

Odds are he'll replace the Assistant DA since that's the next step down from him, and he might switch up team leads or unit organization, but just coming in and cleaning house probably isn't feasible in the short term. Long-term he'll have control over hiring so if he's in the post for at least a decade he could create a pretty significant culture shift (though the sort of attorney who applies to be a Deputy DA tends towards a more conservative worldview, so he might need to actively recruit if he wants more reform-minded applicants).

This is cool, thank you!

bawfuls
Oct 28, 2009

Anza Borrego posted:

Just saw that this morning - feeling pretty solid about giving money to VOSD for a few years. Best journalistic outfit in the region, that’s for sure.
Absolutely. And they’re one of the only outlets that seem to cover state level legislative issues too.

Megaman's Jockstrap
Jul 16, 2000

What a horrible thread to have a post.
Larry Krasner got rid of 31 DAs 3 days after he was sworn in - about 10% of his staff IIRC.

https://www.inquirer.com/philly/news/crime/larry-krasner-philly-da-firing-prosecutors-20180105.html-2

Nothing bad happened.

Wicked Them Beats
Apr 1, 2007

Moralists don't really *have* beliefs. Sometimes they stumble on one, like on a child's toy left on the carpet. The toy must be put away immediately. And the child reprimanded.

Megaman's Jockstrap posted:

Larry Krasner got rid of 31 DAs 3 days after he was sworn in - about 10% of his staff IIRC.

https://www.inquirer.com/philly/news/crime/larry-krasner-philly-da-firing-prosecutors-20180105.html-2

Nothing bad happened.

I worked at a smaller county where losing five or six Deputy DAs would have ruined us and put us six months behind on everything (and we were already perpetually behind). And I can guarantee you a purge like that caused behind-the-scenes issues that just didn't leak out into the public. There's a lot of poo poo that goes on that never makes the public record.

But since Boudin is likely going to direct his department to try fewer cases overall that might give him a freer hand as far as workforce reduction/replacement. We'll have to see how it plays out.

Doc Hawkins
Jun 15, 2010

Dashing? But I'm not even moving!


Megaman's Jockstrap posted:

Larry Krasner got rid of 31 DAs 3 days after he was sworn in - about 10% of his staff IIRC.

https://www.inquirer.com/philly/news/crime/larry-krasner-philly-da-firing-prosecutors-20180105.html-2

Nothing bad happened.

i dunno i heard philly dsa is a mess now

gyohohoho

Wistful of Dollars
Aug 25, 2009

https://twitter.com/quinncy/status/1194118778797248513?s=19

VikingofRock
Aug 24, 2008




SFGate: North Bay brewery releases 'F— PG&E' beer, gets bombarded with 1-star Yelp reviews

A bunch of PG&E workers review bombed Shady Oak Barrel House in Santa Rosa after they released a beer called gently caress PG&E, and also called and threatened the brewery owners.

Shady Oak is sticking with the name though :black101:

CopperHound
Feb 14, 2012

VikingofRock posted:

SFGate: North Bay brewery releases 'F— PG&E' beer, gets bombarded with 1-star Yelp reviews

A bunch of PG&E workers review bombed Shady Oak Barrel House in Santa Rosa after they released a beer called gently caress PG&E, and also called and threatened the brewery owners.

Shady Oak is sticking with the name though :black101:
The gently caress is this out of touch poo poo? The linemen should be on the same gently caress PG&E bandwagon. They should be loyal to IBEW*, not company worms.

Also, I have done work in the PG&E building in SF. It sucks and is full of asbestos. If they are doing major renovation on a floor they just encapsulate it, so you still have to tent up and use a respirator if any drilling needs to happen.

* I don't mean blind loyalty. Trade unions do have a lot of FYGM mentality when it comes to other trades.

Shear Modulus
Jun 9, 2010



SOP for corporate online reputation management now is to get your employees to dogpile critics instead of an official-looking PR channel. think of the creepy "amazon fulfillment center ambassadors" who post on twitter about how they are allowed to go to the bathroom whenever they want

Sydin
Oct 29, 2011

Another spring commute

CopperHound posted:

The gently caress is this out of touch poo poo? The linemen should be on the same gently caress PG&E bandwagon.

You're right, but the reason class and labor solidarity are hard is because people are dumb.

The Glumslinger
Sep 24, 2008

Coach Nagy, you want me to throw to WHAT side of the field?


Hair Elf
Guess I'm gonna take a trip up to Santa Rosa this weekend

Pump Jockey
Mar 15, 2019

i believe in love

VikingofRock posted:

SFGate: North Bay brewery releases 'F— PG&E' beer, gets bombarded with 1-star Yelp reviews

A bunch of PG&E workers review bombed Shady Oak Barrel House in Santa Rosa after they released a beer called gently caress PG&E, and also called and threatened the brewery owners.

Shady Oak is sticking with the name though :black101:

Reminds me, there’s a bizarre movement afoot to put linemen on the same pedestal as cops/firefighters/military, a deification of sorts. There are plenty of boomer memes thanking linemen for being heroes who keep the lights on, being a “line wife” is already a thing, and I even saw a “lineman daughter” sticker on a car the other day. Next we will see American flags with the stripes replaced with live and grounding wire colors.

A lot of it seems to be PGE-focused, which might help explain the weird loyalty to the company these guys have, and why they’d hate this beer. Might as well name a beer “gently caress the cops” as far as they’re concerned.

BeAuMaN
Feb 18, 2014

I'M A LEAD FARMER, MOTHERFUCKER!

Pump Jockey posted:

Next we will see American flags with the stripes replaced with live and grounding wire colors.

The Thin Bare Wire.

ProperGanderPusher
Jan 13, 2012




I appreciate the work our brave manly linemen do, so much so that I want to reward them with sweet rear end government jobs with pensions.

Bald Stalin
Jul 11, 2004

Our posts

rob schneider is anti vaccination?

Grand Prize Winner
Feb 19, 2007


Pump Jockey posted:

Might as well name a beer “gently caress the cops”

Agreed.

idiotsavant
Jun 4, 2000
I mean, weird company loyalty happens in other trades, too, where dudes seem more proud of their employers than their union contracts, and get all horny to vote for political parties who want to wipe out unions completely. I dunno, there are some real dumbfucks in the trades.

the lineman deification thing makes me think of a shirt that a dumbass journeyman at an old site had that was along the lines of: "you can't BUY the title of UNION JOURNEYMAN you can only earn it through BLOOD SWEAT AND TEARS" and like, I cut my finger on some sheet metal once during a hot day so I guess my $800 initiation fee from way back when doesn't count for anything. It's like stupid Big Dog tshirt bullshit but somehow even dumber.

Shbobdb
Dec 16, 2010

by Reene
When I lived in downtown Oakland, there was a dude who worked at PG&E who would regularly work the same happy hour circuit I would. He was a good poo poo and gave as good as he got. I'd give him poo poo for killing people. He'd tell me, "No, I work for the electric part. It's the GAS people who blew up a bunch of people."

I wonder how he responds to that kind of ribbing now that it's the electric people killing people. Hope he is well.

Anza Borrego
Feb 11, 2005

Ovis canadensis nelsoni
I don't know who the California Infrastructure and Economic Development Bank is, but they are apparently pro-train?

https://www.constructiondive.com/news/california-approves-3b-bond-for-virgins-45b-bullet-train-to-las-vegas/566575/

WAR CRIME GIGOLO
Oct 3, 2012

The Hague
tryna get me
for these glutes

Shbobdb posted:

When I lived in downtown Oakland, there was a dude who worked at PG&E who would regularly work the same happy hour circuit I would. He was a good poo poo and gave as good as he got. I'd give him poo poo for killing people. He'd tell me, "No, I work for the electric part. It's the GAS people who blew up a bunch of people."

I wonder how he responds to that kind of ribbing now that it's the electric people killing people. Hope he is well.
The GAS people are now saying no no i dont kill people the ENERGY people kill people.

cheese
Jan 7, 2004

Shop around for doctors! Always fucking shop for doctors. Doctors are stupid assholes. And they get by because people are cowed by their mystical bullshit quality of being able to maintain a 3.0 GPA at some Guatemalan medical college for 3 semesters. Find one that makes sense.

VikingofRock posted:

SFGate: North Bay brewery releases 'F— PG&E' beer, gets bombarded with 1-star Yelp reviews

A bunch of PG&E workers review bombed Shady Oak Barrel House in Santa Rosa after they released a beer called gently caress PG&E, and also called and threatened the brewery owners.

Shady Oak is sticking with the name though :black101:
SFGate might be the least readable website on the internet, its staggering.

Good to see them sticking with it, anyone too dumb to realize that no one angry at PG&E hates the loving workers is just gonna be that way.

CrazyLittle
Sep 11, 2001





Clapping Larry

cheese posted:

SFGate might be the least readable website on the internet, its staggering.

That's what you get for free when your parent site is the Chronicle

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Craptacular!
Jul 9, 2001

Fuck the DH
Sonoma Clean Power, the public energy generation company around Santa Rosa (and also the default in it's area unless you opt out) has voted to look into socializing transmission as well.

quote:

In a unanimous vote, Sonoma Clean Power’s board of directors instructed staff Thursday to study what role, if any, the Santa Rosa agency might play in the acquisition of PG&E power lines and other equipment.

“I think it’s incumbent upon us,” said board Chairman Mark Landman, a member of the Cotati City Council. “I don’t see where we have a choice. We recognize it. I know the public recognizes it.”

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PG&E facilities are not for sale, spokeswoman Deanna Contreras said in an emailed statement. Changing the structure of the company would not create a safer operation, she said.

“We remain firmly convinced that a government or customer takeover is not the optimal solution that will address the challenges and serve the long-run interests of all customers in the communities we serve,” Contreras said.

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Acquiring the operations of a close partner is a difficult topic to discuss, said Geof Syphers, chief executive officer for Sonoma Clean Power. But PG&E is behind on maintenance by 10 to 14 years and is ensnared in a multibillion-dollar bankruptcy case featuring plans put forth by hedge funds bent on squeezing huge margins out of the utility, Syphers said.

“The only way to do that is hurt employees, don’t invest in safety or you do something else dramatic,” Syphers said. “I’m nervous at the outset at who’s competing to control PG&E.”

Board member Dave King, a member of the Petaluma City Council, put a sharper point on it.

“Nothing I can think of says, ‘screw the public interest’ like a hedge fund-owned public utility,” King said.

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The public officials who lead Sonoma Clean Power have little faith that PG&E has the capacity to make its grid both reliable and safe. Landman said it was time to offer a way forward.

“Do we truly feel continuing with a hedge fund-controlled entity — one that is a convicted felon, probation violator, an organization that has repeatedly falsified evidence even after having caused death and destruction through their criminal negligence — do we really believe ‘business as usual’ is the most prudent course of action?” Landman said.

Contreras, the PG&E spokeswoman, said via email the company is focused on resolving wildfire claims and exiting bankruptcy as quickly as possible.

Craptacular! fucked around with this message at 09:33 on Nov 15, 2019

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