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ronya posted:constructive ambiguity was a policy pushed through at great internal cost and executed to marvellous effect, delivering that labour surge in 2017 Yeah, compare it to an actually unabiguous policy, like the broadband stuff. If that was presented in the same way, it would be ‘within 3 months Labour will meet with industry leaders. Depending on how that meeting goes, we will take appropriate measures to ensure universal access’. Which works great on people who trust Corbyn to do the right thing, like most people here do. If you have that blind spot, it is hard to see what the problem is.
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It's striking how similar this all feels to 2017 but more so: - a PM who everyone bigged up as being the Voice of the People skulking around in empty warehouses and performing appallingly on air - a government devoid of new ideas furiously attacking Labour's well-planned, well thought-out proposals - Corbyn is the literal Antichrist but this time we really mean it!!! I hope this turns out like 2017... but more so 
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I don't think I would characterise the capacity for basic pattern recognition as a blind spot.
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Josef bugman posted:Thank you very much for this. It's appreciated. I hope you've been eating on the other days too, even if not self-made meals?
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I do actually accept that the realities of politics mean that short of an enormous landslide, many of these policies will end up being moderated or quietly dropped/traded away/amended into oblivion/voted down in Parliament. But that's why it's important to have an ambitious and inspiring manifesto in the first place And to win a massive landslide of course
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 Podcasting is Praxis Episode 15 is now available!
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It's almost like not-for-profit monopolies are efficient when you're developing infrastructure, who knew
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Josef bugman posted:Thank you very much for this. It's appreciated. You're welcome  I have times like that, and sometimes I feel bad about it, but it's completely okay to be feeling less capable than usual. If you don't feel able to do anything much, it's because your mind and/or body need the downtime. We are weird little machines that need unpredictable things to keep running smoothly. Little comforting things go a long way towards helping us rattle along without breaking, and no one should be shamed for what they need. Never be ashamed for needing space, quiet, help or anything that works for you!  I used to beat myself up about it, but I now take the view that I always get the right amount done, every day, because they are one and the same. Why didn't I get anything done in that two hour period? Because I felt hosed up. End of story. I'm not slacking off, I'm directing my own time. I won't sacrifice my own health by pushing too hard and damaging myself. I am what I am, this is the hand I was dealt. So every day I'm doing the right things for my own life, and if I make a mistake on a choice then I learn from it, and tweak the way I live to be a little healthier If you're crying, it's because you need to cry. And that's okay 
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Aphex- posted:These debates can't come soon enough. Corbyn is going to come with absolutely baller policies, actual stats and research on how to achieve them and will be given airtime to state all this clearly, while Joris is just going to bluster and choke because his lovely party offers nothing. I really cannot see how this could go another way. If loving QI can live fact check, there's absolutely no excuse for news programmes to not be doing it. xtothez posted:Something I don't recall seeing mentioned is a plan to re-nationalise airports. Is there any reason that's a bad idea, or is it just something that's a much lower priority than utilities / rail / housing? With airports, you're compensating private firms for buildings and infrastructure that they put in place, so the buyout has to be much, much bigger to accurately reflect that value. Plus, it was the privately owned companies that built them, so it's more difficult to sell the morality of buying them out. It's a great goal to aim for after the country has gotten a little more softened up to socialism, but at the moment you'd get too much screaming in the business papers about inadequate compensation and government taking over privately built assets rather than taking them back. Jose posted:So they're giving a whole £3 more than you currently get on universal credit a month Rarity posted:This must be the fabled shitposting that Laura Kuessenberg warned me about
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Would anything about remaining in the EU affect Labours plans to renationalise [Telecoms/Water/Energy/Trains] ?
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Where do they get that "STATE MONOPOLY = NO INNOVATION" poo poo? Like, what about NASA and the loving shitton of technological innovation it brought to the table?
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Brexit Party election rally: Farage and Tice pull out. https://twitter.com/MichaelLCrick/status/1195421059614461954?s=20
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Pochoclo posted:Where do they get that "STATE MONOPOLY = NO INNOVATION" poo poo? Well you see the private managers of the state built infrastructure claim to be very innovative, and you wouldn't disbelieve them would you?
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:Brexit Party election rally: Farage and Tice pull out. I imagine the audience were disappointed, having paid to get in.
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Pochoclo posted:Where do they get that "STATE MONOPOLY = NO INNOVATION" poo poo? I lose the will to live a little bit every time someone talks about how private companies are the ones developing new medicines and thats why they deserve to take your liver for a tiny pill. WHO THE gently caress FUNDS THE INITIAL RESEARCH UNTIL IT STARTS LOOKING PROFITABLE YOU WEAPONISED PLUM
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OwlFancier posted:Possibly, but "the EU won't let us give you free broadband" might be relevant in the second referendum This is literally my fear.
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blunt posted:This is literally my fear. I think McDonnell said in the press questions today that they checked with the lawyers and that this is possible under EU state aid rules.
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CGI Stardust posted:Is there a source for these statistics? I'd like to see how voter registration is recorded - how much of this is new registrations vs change of address etc https://www.gov.uk/performance/register-to-vote/registrations-by-age-group Registration rates of under 25s (about 7% of the voting population) are consistently exceeding all age groups over 44 (29%) added together.
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https://twitter.com/BrexitEssex/status/1195254400777932804?s=20 That Turlough thread he references is quite long and involved but interesting (though I haven't read all of it). Dates from May.
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I saw on Facebook earlier that a local newspaper had published a list of all the candidates in our area. I had a look at the comments and there were a few people moaning about the lack of Brexit Party option and saying they'd vote Monster Raving Looney instead. Love to see that Tory vote being split. There were also a few comments in support of the Labour candidates. The lady who's standing for Labour here is a good egg, really active in the community (I met her at Pride a couple of years ago), gets involved in protests etc. I'm keeping my fingers crossed, it would be so good not to have a Tory MP anymore. ThomasPaine posted:How long does it usually take to get a postal vote confirmation through? Do you even get one? I sent off my application about a week ago and have heard nothing back. As I recall, I didn't get anything other than a polling card stating postal vote on it.
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Junior G-man posted:I think McDonnell said in the press questions today that they checked with the lawyers and that this is possible under EU state aid rules. Going to make everything state owned so no-one can complain.
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:https://twitter.com/BrexitEssex/status/1195254400777932804?s=20 Shocking reports coming in right now that Pope may have Catholic tendencies, scenes of chaos and confusion in the news room right now as our senior analysts scramble to make sense of the situation
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Junior G-man posted:I think McDonnell said in the press questions today that they checked with the lawyers and that this is possible under EU state aid rules. EU rules don't prohibit nationalisation, they just require that State aid be used to the minimum possible. If only the state can effectively accomplish a task, then that's fine.
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Ornedan posted:I hope you've been eating on the other days too, even if not self-made meals? err. Does having one meal a day and it being just mcvities chocolate digestives count? Josef bugman fucked around with this message at 21:15 on Nov 15, 2019 |
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The cow website is publishing excerpts from the new tory manifesto probably. https://twitter.com/unherd/status/1195257697958014977?s=19
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Wolfsbane posted:This should be good I see the horny has moved beyond the thread now 
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Gonzo McFee posted:https://twitter.com/krishgm/status/1195370411120353281 Krishnan Guru-Murthy is poo poo? I used to like him back when I had a telly
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RockyB posted:I see the horny has moved beyond the thread now Oh dear Lord. Debbie Does Dagon posted:Krishnan Guru-Murthy is poo poo? I used to like him back when I had a telly He's not the worst, he can be a bit "stand offish" for no real reason (thinking of the infamous interview with RDJ)
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https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/1195324420048470022?s=19 Santa Maria!
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Big John and Labour have been killing it today.
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Pretty normal swings for a council election. Council elections are basically astrology, they go all over the place all the time, because people vote on random local things and different parties campaign different amounts and turnout is usually rock bottom.
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Sapozhnik posted:Shocking reports coming in right now that Pope may have Catholic tendencies, scenes of chaos and confusion in the news room right now as our senior analysts scramble to make sense of the situation Pope Tawadros II of Alexandria is Orthodox not catholic 
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