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Debbie Does Dagon
Jul 8, 2005



namesake posted:

I realise we're going to have to go through a few electoral cycles before it just becomes unworkable but digging up 7 year old tweets, while their contents are awful, being used to wreck people is really getting ridiculous. Asking for apologies for the language and attitudes shown is fine but it really should not be taken as a damning indictment unless they are stupid enough or still so awful to not apologise convincingly.

At least they're being smeared for things they've actually done, and not just "I bet they're going to do an antisemetic at some point, probably"

E: Have a maggot's derpy face

Debbie Does Dagon fucked around with this message at 18:27 on Nov 19, 2019

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HauntedRobot
Jun 22, 2002

an excellent mod
a simple map to my heart
now give me tilt shift

namesake posted:

I realise we're going to have to go through a few electoral cycles before it just becomes unworkable but digging up 7 year old tweets, while their contents are awful, being used to wreck people is really getting ridiculous. Asking for apologies for the language and attitudes shown is fine but it really should not be taken as a damning indictment unless they are stupid enough or still so awful to not apologise convincingly.

You're probably right, I just wanted an excuse to try and coin the word "problemat"

Azza Bamboo
Apr 7, 2018


THUNDERDOME LOSER 2021
One thing that did stick in my mind about the broadband proposals is that they promised to reach the most remote areas first, so the highest density and easiest to reach areas, ie the bulk of private companies income, isn't going to be touched for a while. It's quite possible that the nationalised service would only be attempting (with whatever degree of success) to fill the gap in service for a decade or so before everyone gets a bit tired of this then old policy and sells off the new infrastructure to a business somewhere.

If I had to predict the long term outcome of this proposal it's that we'd eventually be too lazy to sustain socialism and end up selling off the infrastructure.

Pesky Splinter
Feb 16, 2011

A worried pug.

HauntedRobot posted:

You're probably right, I just wanted an excuse to try and coin the word "problemat"

It's a good phrase.


lmbo

namesake
Jun 19, 2006

"When I was a girl, around 12 or 13, I had a fantasy that I'd grow up to marry Captain Scarlet, but he'd be busy fighting the Mysterons so I'd cuckold him with the sexiest people I could think of - Nigel Mansell, Pat Sharp and Mr. Blobby."

Top 3 facts known by the British public about No Swinson:

1. She hates Brexit
2. She tried to sue ITV
3. She kills squirrels on the reg

A Buttery Pastry
Sep 4, 2011

Delicious and Informative!
:3:

goddamnedtwisto posted:

They're loving *horrified* by the free broadband offer because they don't want to work for the government or, even worse, Openreach.

Guavanaut posted:

I keep seeing the "if internet government then government will spy on you/censor you" argument in the wild, as if they aren't already and you're just paying for the privilege.
Given libertarian proclivities, I'd sorta expect one of them to eventually argue themselves into becoming Stalinist supporters of Corbyn because they think they're in the perfect position to implement this surveillance and become Beria.

namesake posted:

I realise we're going to have to go through a few electoral cycles before it just becomes unworkable but digging up 7 year old tweets, while their contents are awful, being used to wreck people is really getting ridiculous. Asking for apologies for the language and attitudes shown is fine but it really should not be taken as a damning indictment unless they are stupid enough or still so awful to not apologise convincingly.
For me, it kinda depends on how old they were when they made those tweets. Teens/early 20's your brain is all weird, but the older you were the more proactive you should be about breaking with and apologizing for your past behavior. Otherwise all you're doing is giving the people who are still awful but not also monumentally stupid an easy way out.

WAR CRIME GIGOLO
Oct 3, 2012

The Hague
tryna get me
for these glutes

namesake posted:

Top 3 facts known by the British public about No Swinson:

1. She hates Brexit
2. She tried to sue ITV
3. She kills squirrels on the reg

4. She is leading in the polls

Apraxin
Feb 22, 2006

General-Admiral

OwlFancier posted:

Well yeah we've all got some kind of brain at the moment but like, I'm trying to imagine what that's gonna do when we start regressing back to remembering times we didn't believe something happened 50 years ago which was also yesterday.

It's gonna be like buzz aldrin was actually the first one on the moon but he defected to the soviet union and the CIA covered it up because he uncovered the secret moon paedophile conspiracy that's why he died.

team overhead smash
Sep 2, 2006

Team-Forest-Tree-Dog:
Smashing your way into our hearts one skylight at a time

team overhead smash posted:

I couldn't find a fair few of these tweets but others are real for sure and not even necessarily the worst.

https://mobile.twitter.com/binny_uk/status/303202200333737985

Assuming the ones I couldn't see have since been deleted so probably legit.

For reference this guy is standing in Diane Abbots seat. I can't 100% be sure as the context isn't completely clear who he's aiming it at, but think there's a good chance this was directed at Abbott.

Taciturn Tactician
Jan 27, 2011

The secret to good health is a balanced diet and unstable healing radiation
Lipstick Apathy
It's come up in a few tweets in this thread, but I hate when people put echoes on themselves. I get the idea behind it, but it just makes my skin crawl seeing echoes on a name.

Ms Adequate
Oct 30, 2011

Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling



Braggart posted:

I literally do have a fetish for being oppressed by evil people. No joke, the thing I hate most turns me on. I am a land of contrasts.

Makes me wonder if maybe psychological trauma affects our sexuality ;)

https://www.yourtango.com/2017303353/meet-hillary-clinton-dominatrix-who-punishes-donald-trump-voters (Possibly :nws:)

Jel Shaker
Apr 19, 2003

I wouldn’t actually be surprised if jo did spend her evening murdering small animals

CGI Stardust
Nov 7, 2010


Brexit is but a door,
election time is but a window.

I'll be back
idea: mobile game, Jo Swinson squirrel annihilation simulator

Doctor_Fruitbat
Jun 2, 2013


Jel Shaker posted:

I wouldn’t actually be surprised if jo did spend her evening murdering small animals

That's exactly it - people make decisions based on feeling, including voting, and whether it is true is basically irrelevant to whether or not people CAN picture you as a pig fucker or a squirrel killer. No-one even halfway sane would believe it about Corbyn, or even some of the softer tories like Ken Clarke.

But they'll absolutely believe it about Jo Swinson, and that is a completely insurmountable problem for her.

deletebeepbeepbeep
Nov 12, 2008
https://twitter.com/MattChorley/status/1196835546867388428?s=20

Only 12 points now in it on the YouGov Poll so things are looking up!!

:geno:

Profanity
Aug 26, 2005
Grimey Drawer

Doctor_Fruitbat posted:

That's exactly it - people make decisions based on feeling, including voting, and whether it is true is basically irrelevant to whether or not people CAN picture you as a pig fucker or a squirrel killer. No-one even halfway sane would believe it about Corbyn, or even some of the softer tories like Ken Clarke.

But they'll absolutely believe it about Jo Swinson, and that is a completely insurmountable problem for her.

Time to get her digging a hole next to furry rodents instead of a small child.

Azza Bamboo
Apr 7, 2018


THUNDERDOME LOSER 2021

This is wonderful.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Taciturn Tactician posted:

It's come up in a few tweets in this thread, but I hate when people put echoes on themselves. I get the idea behind it, but it just makes my skin crawl seeing echoes on a name.
When people who aren't Jews do it I get immediately suspicious of their motivations.

Like, Jewish journos did it to say "we know what you're up to, nazis, we see you" but (((Dan Hodges)))...

Collateral
Feb 17, 2010
Started listening to Slow Horses, and just got to the scene with Peter Judd. drat that this book was written in 2010? Mick Herron is a prophet.

justcola
May 22, 2004

La-Li-Lu-Le-Lo

Can you only watch the debate on ITV (itv player?) or is it on twitch/youtube?

Ms Adequate
Oct 30, 2011

Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling



e; ^^^ It'll almost certainly be on YT I'd have thought? The beeb's the only place I can think of that doesn't stream their important live stuff there, these days


To make a serious post I'm really happy to hear you're doing well, that sounds like you're really well set up for the time being and long may it continue! If you and your ladyfriend are going for another babby, I wish you the best of luck with that too :)

:unsmith: Not enough good news but hopefully that'll be changing in a few weeks.

Taciturn Tactician
Jan 27, 2011

The secret to good health is a balanced diet and unstable healing radiation
Lipstick Apathy

Guavanaut posted:

When people who aren't Jews do it I get immediately suspicious of their motivations.

Like, Jewish journos did it to say "we know what you're up to, nazis, we see you" but (((Dan Hodges)))...

The idea as far as I understood it was to basically dilute it so it stops being useful- if Jewish and non-Jewish people put echoes on their names, it makes it impossible to use as a marker anymore, sort of like the same idea as cis people putting pronouns in their bio. But the whole concept is so deeply unsettling to me that I react viscerally to it every time.

NinpoEspiritoSanto
Oct 22, 2013




Wiggly Wayne DDS
Sep 11, 2010



ya they haven't given out the full data yet but i'll do a comparison to their 13/11 polling to see what's changed on their weights, if anything

jabby
Oct 27, 2010

deletebeepbeepbeep posted:

https://twitter.com/MattChorley/status/1196835546867388428?s=20

Only 12 points now in it on the YouGov Poll so things are looking up!!

:geno:

https://twitter.com/MattChorley/status/1196836023537487872

Interesting that the tracker cuts off about a week before the 2017 election, so as to not remind viewers that YouGov's final poll was stupidly wrong.

(they had Tory 42%, Labour 35%, so underestimated Labour support by about 5%)

Ms Adequate
Oct 30, 2011

Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling



Fair play to Kantar, they saw an opening for "even more transparently bullshit than the others" and have dived in dick-first

Jippa
Feb 13, 2009
How long until bank's twitter is released?

Chuka Umana
Apr 30, 2019

by sebmojo
Anyone got a link to a good ITV stream?

nvm found the official itv stream: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kEB5pqWpJw

jabby
Oct 27, 2010

https://twitter.com/ITVNewsPolitics/status/1196844121337540610
Corbs already winning the pre-debate, even the BBC news played this clip.

kecske
Feb 28, 2011

it's round, like always

Sweden has dropped the rape allegations against Assange, presumably so theres no contest against sending him to the States to disappear forever into a CIA blacksite

blunt
Jul 7, 2005

justcola posted:

Can you only watch the debate on ITV (itv player?) or is it on twitch/youtube?

This is the livestream:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kEB5pqWpJw

RockyB
Mar 8, 2007


Dog Therapy: Shockingly Good

jabby posted:

https://twitter.com/ITVNewsPolitics/status/1196844121337540610
Corbs already winning the pre-debate, even the BBC news played this clip.

Johnson by contrast has distributed yet another glamour shot of his back and will likely walk in to the rocky theme. With boxing gloves on.

E: Some quality FBPE in those replies

https://twitter.com/Panda_Chronicle/status/1196856158428028928

RockyB fucked around with this message at 19:53 on Nov 19, 2019

Pesky Splinter
Feb 16, 2011

A worried pug.
Heated discussion with my old man;
"Corbyn is a cock"
"W-what? How? Explain."
"He just is. All politicians are as bad as each other, but he's worse than Johnson. Labour would be doing better under a different leader."
"Explain how he's worse than loving Johnson. Also I've literally heard that tired poo poo since Corbyn was elected *explained all the poo poo that's gone on over the last few years, and slander and such, and Corbyn's actual effectiveness in opposition.*"
"Hmm...okay. I'll look into it." (Still can't/won't explain why he thinks this)
"Seriously, look into it. They've got a manifesto coming out. If you want me to explain poo poo, ask."
"Okay. Libdems are still trash right?"
"Yes. And voting for the Tories is voting for the nonce party."
":lol:"

Pretty sure my UKIP voting stepmum's broke his brain over the last few years.

Ms Adequate
Oct 30, 2011

Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling



kecske posted:

Sweden has dropped the rape allegations against Assange, presumably so theres no contest against sending him to the States to disappear forever into a CIA blacksite

Lol oh yeah we'll press for his extradition for years and years, no wait nvm we got nothing :shrug:

The Question IRL
Jun 8, 2013

Only two contestants left! Here is Doom's chance for revenge...

Trickjaw posted:

Awesome. The filth are a bit ahead of the cash hitting their till, I was taking a box of tools to our base because of boards and such and got stopped and searched. I had soooo many snarky replies, and was too feart to use them. The only time I was snarky was he pulled out a lump hammer "This is an offensive weapon" "Only if I use it". I was asked if I was a handyman and nearly exploded.

I know who reported me, the baddie arse security in security at Tesco who is still dead bitter about not being even a prison guard

Earlier this year I was defending a client accused of shop lifting from a super market. The State's case was he paid for most of the goods but tried to sneak some out.
The defence was he was in a lot of pain following an eye injury and that he and his girlfriend were so distracted that it was an honest mistake.

I'll never forget it because the security guard was obviously someone who saw himself as a Detective just stationed inside a super market. A very angry guy, he flew off the handle and started ranting about why the girlfriend wasnt also charged with Theft (explained that's the job of the State who to prosecute.)

He also did no favours when I put it to him that the self service tills aren't big enough to store all your items and most people would put their groceries on the ground. Thus why my client made the mistake about which goods he had paid for and which he hadn't.

The guard went nuts and started saying that the shop had conducted extensive tests and said how they could hold shopping buskets with a family's worth of goods, and the only reason for anyone to not use those side trays is if they were trying to steal from the store.

I then just rewound the CCTV until I saw a granny struggling with her shopping basket and leaving it on the floor beside the machine like my client. He didn't have an answer for this but continued being very aggressive.

In the end the Judge really wasnt impressed by the security guard and dismissed the charges against my client.

That was a very good day at work.
Plus I think it's a great example of how someone's temperament can effect their credibility as a witness.

Spangly A
May 14, 2009

God help you if ever you're caught on these shores

A man's ambition must indeed be small
To write his name upon a shithouse wall
someone make an excel template of the 2017 ge weightings and also a macro that posts the corrected raw data back at the polling companies, the fixed poll the other day was funny

or just make the template and ill do the unskew and someone with twitter can post em

Barry Foster
Dec 24, 2007

What is going wrong with that one (face is longer than it should be)
Fuuuuck watching this poo poo. I've been up since 4 am and I don't have the patience to which Johnson chunter and the talking heads to lick his arse. I'm going radio silence to play Rimworld until I pass out.

Have fun!

RockyB
Mar 8, 2007


Dog Therapy: Shockingly Good

Endjinneer posted:

For fun on Tuesday, how about we play Boris Bingo together? We can all contribute suggestions for the word list and create 5x5 Bingo cards using this website https://osric.com/bingo-card-generator

Here's a starter for the list:
Wiff-waff,Picaninny, Garden bridge, Turbocharge,Lie, Get Brexit done, Gridlock, Lie, Girl's blouse, Watermelon smile, Lie, Oven chips, Lie, 20000 police officers, Bureaucrats, Lie, The Rolling Stones, 40 hospitals, Frictionless border, Lie, Russia, Will of the people, Ancient Greek phrase, Dead in a ditch, Do-or-die, Pseudo-Marxist, Stalin,

N.B: Each lie can only be used once. Claims of a line or full house featuring one or more lies must be able to describe all lies involved.



Quoting this so I can find it when I get off the train. Remember to generate your own!

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

jabby posted:

https://twitter.com/MattChorley/status/1196836023537487872

Interesting that the tracker cuts off about a week before the 2017 election, so as to not remind viewers that YouGov's final poll was stupidly wrong.

(they had Tory 42%, Labour 35%, so underestimated Labour support by about 5%)

It's interesting just how closely they're tracking - if the manifesto release goes the same way there's going to be some very squeaky bums in Tory HQ.

I doubt they'll manage to gently caress up quite as badly as they did with the dementia tax, but at the same time all of Labour's more radical policies this time around seem to be landing, and if they can keep that up that might be enough to overcome the Tories not pissing it down their legs quite as badly.

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Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
I would like the Met to end up in the dock, but what are they alleged to have done to #FBPE?

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