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Big Beef City posted:As a film student I sense a great doubledown in the forums
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skasion posted:Nobody loves Roddenberry at this point, that motherfucker was FAR crazier and more incompetent than Lucas ever was Gene did what now
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I too would like more posts about compositional poo poo and whatnotTorquemada posted:Gene did what now Mean Roddenboner
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skasion posted:Nobody loves Roddenberry at this point, that motherfucker was FAR crazier and more incompetent than Lucas ever was That'd be a point in Roddenberry's favor if not for the pedophilia TheIncredulousHulk posted:I too would like more posts about compositional poo poo and whatnot Same
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Padme died because she gave birth to twins. She was probably going to die either way, The Emperor was just able to use the force visions to manipulate Anakin.
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skasion posted:Nobody loves Roddenberry at this point, that motherfucker was FAR crazier and more incompetent than Lucas ever was I'm gonna go ahead with the James Joyce defense here
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KiteAuraan posted:My guess is that is Sheev's fleet and he isn't the First Order and probably spent 30 years building ships and smoking mids and lol'ing at Snoke. We're probably not going to get any sort of answer or even 30 seconds of dialogue explaining how any of this happened, but I'm guessing he was just squirreling away Star Destroyers while he was emperor and they are all remotely controlled, and he's got a plan to fill them with new recruits. If they were actually fully staffed, there would be no way for whatever fleet the Resistance puts together to defeat them unless there is some 4th Death star they blow up that takes them all out. My guess is that the Emperor is still alive, and Rey defeats him, and we have no explanation for anything because, "MYSTERY BOX!!! I'm so clever!" -JJ
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so i was eating dinner with my brother and he told me that he read somewhere that rise of skywlaker is a loving trainwreck, we both dont have any star wars nostalgia, both watched the first on this this trilogy and tought it was an ok movey nothing special and hated the last one. there are leaks or something to read about this movie and why it will be so bad?
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KiteAuraan posted:So like, the New EU goes out of its way to talk about how Leia and Poe's mom are like, really close friends. So you figure, ya know, Poe and Big Ben would have grown up together, maybe, or at least know each other somewhat? Like, maybe a relationship there to add depth to the characters and make us give a gently caress? It'd be a pretty good detail to have basically all the Resistance members know Kylo and him know them, so he's the turncoat and isn't just tortured by mom and dad, but has to get weepy eyed every time he brazenly murders his old friends.
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Remember the shrimp man that goes "its a trap!" haha that was good.
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Empty Sandwich posted:A Star Trek fan is someone who loves
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Akshually both star wars and star trek fans love children
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Because a heck of a lot of them are parents of said children.
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Colonel Cancer posted:Akshually both star wars and star trek fans love children I think the RCMP said it was the "single 40+ male" demographic that was really into Star Trek that were most likely to be pedos.
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Mikezxcv81 posted:Padme died because she gave birth to twins. She was probably going to die either way, The Emperor was just able to use the force visions to manipulate Anakin. She died of a broken heart, which is a real scientific cause of death
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Blistex posted:I think the RCMP said it was the "single 40+ male" demographic that was really into Star Trek that were most likely to be pedos. Not all trekkies are nonces, but all nonces are trekkies.
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Torquemada posted:Gene did what now Gene Roddenberry was, without exaggeration, the most perverted man ever put in charge of a TV show, and that is an astounding achievement given the competition.
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Gene had his wife AND was banging Majel Barrett and Nichelle Nichols during ToS. He went so far as to tell his loving side-pieces that he wanted an open relationship
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After reading JUST what was made public about Gene after the fact and getting that "hands up, back away" vibe from it, there's literally nothing that would shock me about the man's sexual exploits. He seemed to be on a mission for his own self pleasure once he realized he could capitalize on his wealth and influence.
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Blistex posted:I think the RCMP said it was the "single 40+ male" demographic that was really into Star Trek that were most likely to be pedos. I believe it went something like this: "not all pedos like star trek. Some like star wars"
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Laterite posted:Gene Roddenberry was, without exaggeration, the most perverted man ever put in charge of a TV show, and that is an astounding achievement given the competition. 
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... "In addition to being a sentient android, Data can assume a much more... sensual role. Often fulfilling all the crews needs and will frequently [text is cut off]"
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What was that Roddenberry quote about walking like a strip tease queen?
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Colonel Cancer posted:What was that Roddenberry quote about walking like a strip tease queen? That was the much hornier quote I was looking for but I guess it was from somewhere other than the series bible I found. https://twitter.com/pookleblinky/status/819831894162501632?lang=en
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Antiquated Pants posted:Hold on to your butts. 30 seconds and this scene as robots, lasers, flying poo poo and looks awful. miller filmed an ENTIRE chase movie with cars and trucks and holy gently caress mad max was good
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 if thats his description of Dr. Crusher what did he write about Troi
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Roddenberry OD'ed on sex and drugs and sex drugs then left TNG in much more capable hands. Lucas is using his weird virginal teetotaler energy to cling to life so that he can continue to gently caress up 40 year old movies he already sold to the rights toRutibex posted:
Wasn't Troi supposed to have one or two extra titties?
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Clark Nova posted:Roddenberry OD'ed on sex and drugs and sex drugs then left TNG in much more capable hands. Lucas is using his weird virginal teetotaler energy to cling to life so that he can continue to gently caress up 40 year old movies he already sold to the rights to https://twitter.com/pookleblinky/status/819805072469028865
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Star Trek that existed in Roddenberrys mind is a thing of wonder
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Gene, we'd like you to come up with a new Trek series. "Tits." ...ok something a little MORE than that. "...FOUR tits." Gene.
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I read that in bob belchers voice
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FilthyImp posted:I would legit like hearing more about how Lucas's pursuit of pushing the digital envelope resulted in severely limited films, actually. Kazak posted:Right, the prequels are sooo lovely looking and I'd appreciate a professional deep dive into how and why it came to look so bad. I do enjoy writing about this stuff.  That's a picture of movie studio executives at a media event in which they put film canisters into the trash. It was 1999, the same year The Phantom Menace was released. We will come back to this. Just to get it out of the way, when I say "digital" I mean the process where a sensor collects information about a scene and writes that data to storage- either magnetic tape or a hard disk, as opposed to "film," that is, collecting information on moving photochemical film which is also the storage medium. I'm making this clarification because all we've heard in the last 15 years is "film is dead," and naturally a lot of people think digital came about only recently to replace it. That's not true, it's been around since the 60's- it's weird to think of it this way, but The Cosby Show, for instance, was shot "digitally" (cockroach was cgi) But digital in 1999 looked bad. Not to put too fine a point on things, but digital did not create pleasing images- just take a look at commercials from the 90s. Serious artists who wanted to create significant art of enduring value simply did not shoot digital. And that brings us to George Lucas I don't know why, I am not a big fan of George Lucas and I don't know much about him, but for some reason he wanted more and more of his movies to be made in a computer instead of in front of a camera. Anyways, if you are shooting film, it's a fairly convoluted and expensive process to digitize what you shot, finalize it on a computer, then output that digital master back onto film for final distribution. Nonetheless this use of a "digital intermediate" was already becoming common by 1999. What Lucas and the studios envisioned was a process by which the film companies (Kodak, et al) could be cut out completely. For Lucas the process of creating a digital intermediate from a scanned camera negative was an inconvenience. Creating a film internegative from the digital master was an inconvenience. For the studios, distributing film prints was an eye-watering outlay: let's say there's 500 movies released in a year, you distribute on average 1000 prints per movie, average cost of a print is $1000- thats a cool half billion dollars the industry spends on distribution. The possibility of distributing movies as digital files via hard disks (digital cinema packages) was an extremely attractive proposition. The biggest obstacle to this was convincing the theater owners to scrap all their film projectors and invest in expensive digital projectors. Obviously the studios prevailed, albeit not without embarrassing themselves a number of ways, including with stunts like the one depicted at the top of my post. George Lucas meanwhile was the "artistic" pressure executives could leverage against theaters. And it wouldn't be the last time they used directors as muscle: it was the same situation when Peter Jackson decided to shoot The Hobbit films the way he did, Cameron with Avatar, Ang Lee with his two HFR films, etc. I will defer to all of you on how successful those attempts were. Anyways, what did Lucas get out of this other than relief of his personal frustration with the digital intermediate process? First and foremost, the prequels were an opportunity for ILM to develop all the proprietary tools and techniques that would establish them as preeminent in the emerging computer VFX market, with the whole gambit underwritten by 20th Century Fox. The downside was that they would have to make some movies, and those movies would inevitably reflect the pained development of those tools. And that brings us back to my original post about how unpleasant looking those movies are. They were conceived and executed as an extremely expensive proof-of-concept; a movie version of immersion therapy: if the audiences are shown enough visually unpleasant digital mattes-  they would somehow forget that 20 years prior they had seen very beautiful practical alternatives that didn't require a computer.   These weren't gonna be the sorts of films where artists used the best tools available to them to realize their vision- no, they were meant to prove that ILM was the future and that film was only good for the trash. more information about the difference between optical and digital workflows (and anything else you would want to learn about film making) can be read about here: https://www.kodak.com/US/en/motion/education/publications/essential_reference_guide/index.htm Edits for clarity Dilkington fucked around with this message at 03:38 on Mar 1, 2022 |
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Weird to be reminded that good posts about star wars are possible
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Also the practical effects for the original series have aged better while the prequels stand out in a bad way like a pair of JNCO jeans.
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etalian posted:Also the practical effects for the original series have aged better while the prequels stand out in a bad way like a pair of JNCO jeans. Printing out this post and stapling it to the forehead of my coworker who says the special effects in the prequels were better.
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Is it true that the original trilogy pioneered the use of stationary cameras with models (tie fighters and x wings) moving toward/away from the camera to simulate flight? Or am I misremembering?
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Kazak posted:Is it true that the original trilogy pioneered the use of stationary cameras with models (tie fighters and x wings) moving toward/away from the camera to simulate flight? Or am I misremembering? Yeah, that sounds familiar. Saw the latest episode of the Mandalorian. . . and they're really taking the western theme to the max, as the episode was one of the most common stories in western movies/shows. Baby "yoda" gets a lot more screen time in this one and I'm glad they ditched the CGI.
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Kazak posted:Is it true that the original trilogy pioneered the use of stationary cameras with models (tie fighters and x wings) moving toward/away from the camera to simulate flight? Or am I misremembering? Other way around. The model is stationary while the camera moves.
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I watched TLJ for the first time since theaters after my friend said new Star Wars is bad because Rey beat Kylo in the first one and the casino plot is terrible. I well actually’d it owns and the casino plot is the best plot in the new trilogy. Can confirm after watching it again. TLJ is wonderfully subversive. That’s my star war story thanks for reading.
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