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I never realised but you can still see a touch of the new Tarkin actor underneath that CGI face. Weird fuckin poo poo. When I saw Rogue One whenever he was on screen I immediately checked out of the movie and started scrutinising his face for flaws. Not ideal for immersion
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Chomp8645 posted:Everything in Star Wars has done more world building that the sequel trilogy. imo it's the biggest single problem with the whole thing. I also think it's big part of the "prequels were better than sequels" movement. The opening scenes on Jakku at the start of TFA I thought were really good at establishing Rey, the shithole she lived in, and how a post-empire planet on the fringe might look and operate. Then the First Order shows up to get BB-8 and we essentially don't get a single piece of world building or fleshing out of characters for the rest of the entire goddamn trilogy.
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Jan 13, 2020 23:04
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Owlbear Camus posted:HBO did this between seasons because the guy decided he wanted to be in a movie, had a brief scene establishing the new actor was playing the same part, and we pretty much went with it. I really wish Disney had just recasted someone new to play Leia. Apparently that came down to the vast majority of the issues with the narrative in Last Jedi, and Rise of Skywalker, was that Leia was meant to be the main character alongside Rey.
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It just occured to me the reason they are doing this is probably something to do with the most quintessentially Star Wars of things: crass rear end merchandising and likeness rights. A Tarkin that always looks the same is a stronger BrAnD, and as a bonus it's easier not to have to open merchandising negotiations with a newly cast actor who knows it's a major role that's gonna make a lot of toys. I bet there was at least a semi-serious pitch floating around to superimpose a de-aged Ford face for the Solo flick.
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I said come in! posted:I really wish Disney had just recasted someone new to play Leia. Apparently that came down to the vast majority of the issues with the narrative in Last Jedi, and Rise of Skywalker, was that Leia was meant to be the main character alongside Rey. The fact that she died before they finished filming is only one negative aspect of many for that bad idea
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I said come in! posted:I really wish Disney had just recasted someone new to play Leia. Apparently that came down to the vast majority of the issues with the narrative in Last Jedi, and Rise of Skywalker, was that Leia was meant to be the main character alongside Rey. Pretty sure the terrible script and messy production rushed out by Kathleen Kennedy, Abrams and co, after Colin Trevorrow was dropped off a cliff when he couldn't deliver a halfway functional script, is the primary reason why the movie sucks so much. Along with the executive meddling and total lack of creative freedom given to Star Wars creators by Disney. Carrie Fisher dying is totally besides the point because the movie may have been okay enough if Disney gave the troubled production time to breathe as opposed to throwing a very bad movie to the wolves because of self-imposed asinine deadlines. Cough Drop The Beat fucked around with this message at 01:09 on Jan 14, 2020 |
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Jan 14, 2020 01:06
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Owlbear Camus posted:It just occured to me the reason they are doing this is probably something to do with the most quintessentially Star Wars of things: crass rear end merchandising and likeness rights. A Tarkin that always looks the same is a stronger BrAnD, and as a bonus it's easier not to have to open merchandising negotiations with a newly cast actor who knows it's a major role that's gonna make a lot of toys. I'll sign away my likeness as General Hotso in exchange for 30 minutes with that thick lipped jizz singer from Jabbas palace
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Jan 14, 2020 01:07
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I might be the only one that doesn't have a problem with the cgi replacement of dead/unavailable actors. I thought it was cool to see Tarkin again in Rogue One, and seeing young Leia at the end was a nice surprise as well. But I think it only works with smaller roles. If it's the main character I'm not sure it will work so well. But I think I prefer it over recasts. Recasts are distracting, and I was annoyed when they recast Dario in GoT with a completely different looking actor. The first guy (Fabio Dario) had such a unique look. The second guy was just another dude with a beard. Also the first Mountain was waaaay better than any of the other Mountains, and he only had a few scenes.
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Jan 14, 2020 01:32
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Recasting is only ever as good as the guy they recast. I thought Donald Glover’s Lando was legit good to watch and definitely it increased the appeal of the movie to me over some kind of hypothetical de aged cg Billy Dee Williams. Conversely the Han guy wasn’t convincing...but then again, how can you follow Harrison Ford? There is potential for CG to represent likenesses of dead people but I think it isn’t yet working to the point where it should be done much. In particular the cobbled together dead Carrie Fisher stuff in TROS is fascinatingly creepy and weird which probably isn’t the vibe they were going for.
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So your thoughts on themes, are they for 8th graders or perhaps younger audiences?
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Jan 14, 2020 07:05
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So now when I say JJ can't write and can't tie up his mystery boxes, I'm quoting JJ?
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I hope it continues to become a tradition of Lucas or co. to keep loving with the Greedo scene for every new special edition that comes out.
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Jan 14, 2020 07:26
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halokiller posted:I hope it continues to become a tradition of Lucas or co. to keep loving with the Greedo scene for every new special edition that comes out. 
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WE LOVE THE HUTTS!
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halokiller posted:I hope it continues to become a tradition of Lucas or co. to keep loving with the Greedo scene for every new special edition that comes out. Greedo, weeping, begging you the viewer to pause the film and prevent his death
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Jan 14, 2020 08:46
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halokiller posted:I hope it continues to become a tradition of Lucas or co. to keep loving with the Greedo scene for every new special edition that comes out. Greedo's brother shot first
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Jan 14, 2020 08:58
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JJJJJJJJJJJ abrams
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Hillary 2020 posted:Greedo's brother shot first You mean Graddle?
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Jan 14, 2020 08:59
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remember when star trek the JJ came out and people (star trek people) didnt really like it too except star trek has been hosed with so much everyone was like ehhhh ok 
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Sydin posted:The opening scenes on Jakku at the start of TFA I thought were really good at establishing Rey, the shithole she lived in, and how a post-empire planet on the fringe might look and operate. Then the First Order shows up to get BB-8 and we essentially don't get a single piece of world building or fleshing out of characters for the rest of the entire goddamn trilogy. LOL (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Bloody Hedgehog posted:You mean Graddle? Pqweeduk
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When I watched star trek and into darkness I THOUGHT "JJ sure doesn't understand a thing about space" After ROS I don't think he understands anything
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Did JJ hire the kid that wrote BvS to hide his own ineptitude cause every franchise he's touched has turned to poo poo except Fringe, he got kicked out before he could do any damage
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halokiller posted:I hope it continues to become a tradition of Lucas or co. to keep loving with the Greedo scene for every new special edition that comes out. 
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Blistex posted:They could have had Tarkin do all of his lines via holoprojector and nobody would have been creeped out. Thank you! I didn't really mind the CGI replacement but this would have been so much better EDIT anyway still haven't seen TROS yet don't know if I care to
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The tarkin thing probably has more to do with disney trying to show off their fancy, expensive tech to justify costs to investors. My problem with Tarkin cgi is that it emotes incorrectly and it doesnt look right on the close ups as a result.
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Barudak posted:Greedo, weeping, begging you the viewer to pause the film and prevent his death Just curious, is there a movie that does this?
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Yolomon Wayne posted:Snokes on a plane Snoke clones. Snokeclones.
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Snackmar posted:Just curious, is there a movie that does this? It is a massive spoiler and not exactly the same but there is an infamous horror movie that does something with this concept to directly confront the viewer funny games.
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I want to say that one Black Mirror movie did address the audience directly, but don't quote me on that
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Outpost22 posted:Thank you! I didn't really mind the CGI replacement but this would have been so much better The worst thing I can say about TROS is that it isn't worth watching. It's not a good movie, and it's not the kind of bad movie that's fun to watch. It's just a disjointed big budget mess.
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trevorrow's script may not have made for a better movie but at least it would have been something that followed from TLJ
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Blistex posted:The worst thing I can say about TROS is that it isn't worth watching. It's not a good movie, and it's not the kind of bad movie that's fun to watch. It's just a disjointed big budget mess. i enjoyed TLJ for all its flaws, and I'm used to discounting goon opinions about this kind of thing, but yeah TROS is just a whole bunch of stuff that happens then it stops.
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sebmojo posted:i enjoyed TLJ for all its flaws, and I'm used to discounting goon opinions about this kind of thing, but yeah TROS is just a whole bunch of stuff that happens then it stops. This is a good review of the entire sequel trilogy
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https://mobile.twitter.com/jacobinmag/status/1217120658045448192Owlbear Camus posted:trevorrow's script may not have made for a better movie but at least it would have been something that followed from TLJ I don’t know of any reason to believe this
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skasion posted:[ It doesn't bring back Palpatine in the flesh or try to sweep Rose under the rug af least?
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