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frogge
Apr 7, 2006


Probably not I live in a pretty rural area.

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Burt Sexual
Jan 26, 2006

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Switchblade Switcharoo

r u ready to WALK posted:

I don't think you'd notice much difference :smug:

Dang

Sankara
Jul 18, 2008


Gotta flatten the curve, folks.

Beachcomber
May 21, 2007

Another day in paradise.


Slippery Tilde
We've been watching real tv because my wife wants to watch svu and it's on all the time.

Who's going to advertise when things like "shopping" aren't really a thing right now? What happens to the TV stations?

BlackIronHeart
Aug 2, 2004

PROCEED
There's always airtime for medications. Get your skin pills, dick pills and heart pills now!

unpacked robinhood
Feb 18, 2013

by Fluffdaddy
I was wondering if the non existent testing was by design in most countries, as opposed to like South Korea.

Imagine how most dumbasses would act if they had the knowledge that they are asymptomatic carriers/already had the disease. You bet your rear end they'd be out and about spreading their poo poo everywhere because they give 0 fucks about others.

Tei
Feb 19, 2011

frogge posted:

I'm behind the times on this stuff since I took a break from reading about it, but now that I'm back I'm reading stuff online that says covid-19 gives you brain damage, too, or something and now they estimate that 40-70% of everyone in the US or world is going to catch it?

40-70% is correct, but over a year and half. I believe.

Brain damage was a rumour, but seems fake. What seems more solid is that this thing reduce 20% of your lungs, a leas temporally. I am not a doctor so take this with a pinch of salt.

Social isolation works, but is going to anhilate the economy, so in the other side we will be alive, but broke. A lot of people is losing their jobs already.

Beachcomber
May 21, 2007

Another day in paradise.


Slippery Tilde

unpacked robinhood posted:

I was wondering if the non existent testing was by design in most countries, as opposed to like South Korea.

Imagine how most dumbasses would act if they had the knowledge that they are asymptomatic carriers/already had the disease. You bet your rear end they'd be out and about spreading their poo poo everywhere because they give 0 fucks about others.

I can really get behind this conspiracy theory. If it's not true, it should have been.

No one in government is that smart though.

QuarkJets
Sep 8, 2008

Beachcomber posted:

We've been watching real tv because my wife wants to watch svu and it's on all the time.

Who's going to advertise when things like "shopping" aren't really a thing right now? What happens to the TV stations?

Pretty sure people are still going to need to buy food and medication, which are the bulk of advertising

QuarkJets
Sep 8, 2008

unpacked robinhood posted:

I was wondering if the non existent testing was by design in most countries, as opposed to like South Korea.

Imagine how most dumbasses would act if they had the knowledge that they are asymptomatic carriers/already had the disease. You bet your rear end they'd be out and about spreading their poo poo everywhere because they give 0 fucks about others.

Never assume maliciousness for what is easily explained by incompetence; incompetence is always the true answer

Jabor
Jul 16, 2010

#1 Loser at SpaceChem
Unless it involves ICE, in which case it's always malice.

QuarkJets
Sep 8, 2008

Jabor posted:

Unless it involves ICE, in which case it's always malice.

With ICE it's always a mix of both, like taking down the CDC posters recommending more hand washing is malice toward brown people and incompetence toward ICE employees

frogge
Apr 7, 2006


Tei posted:

40-70% is correct, but over a year and half. I believe.

Brain damage was a rumour, but seems fake. What seems more solid is that this thing reduce 20% of your lungs, a leas temporally. I am not a doctor so take this with a pinch of salt.

Social isolation works, but is going to anhilate the economy, so in the other side we will be alive, but broke. A lot of people is losing their jobs already.

Dang.

Yeah a ton of my friends works have shuttered and are freaking out right now.

QuarkJets
Sep 8, 2008

Number_6 posted:

I'm seeing some people online suggesting that it would be better to let this burn through the population fast and hot, casualties be damned, than suffer the economic damage of an extended state of quarantine/restrictions. Is that just ghoulish capitalist greed talking, or a pragmatic strategy?

It's ghoulish capitalist greed and not at all pragmatic

Tei
Feb 19, 2011

Number_6 posted:

I'm seeing some people online suggesting that it would be better to let this burn through the population fast and hot, casualties be damned, than suffer the economic damage of an extended state of quarantine/restrictions. Is that just ghoulish capitalist greed talking, or a pragmatic strategy?

Like stoping a train withouth brakes having your entire population in the rails. It may save the train, but you are going to suffer a catastrophic loss of life.

Arguabily it would not even complete, because people will riot somewhere.

bollig
Apr 7, 2006

Never Forget.

Disgusting Coward posted:

Isn't Switzerland like, a few rich people, a few nerds colliding their large hardons and a few suicide clinic workers? How the gently caress can the government not successfully quarantine a population of 25 people?

It is mostly busy-body old ladies who would rather burn the country to the ground if they can't go to the market. It is very much a 'but muh freedoms' country. For example, multiple people I know have posted videos of Italy and Spain and said something to the effect of 'how can you call yourself a free country if this happens'.

Warthog posted:

It's really loving confusing... how can it be so hard to see what's happening across the border when
a) we've got them with 5 different coutries
b) wherever we are, one is within 80 miles as the crow flies
c) we're neighbouring frigging Italy!!!

...at least around Zürich groups of 15 or more people will get dispersed now.


you forgot cows, cheese, coo coo clocks and IKEA

Yeah I had no idea how loving behind zürich was/is

ThermoPhysical
Dec 26, 2007



https://www.npr.org/2020/03/17/816501871/poll-as-coronavirus-spreads-fewer-americans-see-pandemic-as-a-real-threat

I was forced to go to Walmart to get amoxicillin and Prednisone for asthma-related respiratory infection and it was PACKED.

People don't care at all about anything.

The only thing different is everyone avoided me because of my mask (which I actually need).

This legitimately worries me for my 82 year old mother, roommate with MS meds that cause him to be immunocompromised, and for myself.

Hell, no one in my family takes it seriously but me.

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

sucks to be right

QuarkJets posted:

It's ghoulish capitalist greed and not at all pragmatic

I've never met anyone who described themselves as a "pragmatist" or a "realist" who wasn't an unbearable selfish rear end in a top hat. They're usually massively hypocritical as well.

large_gourd
Jan 17, 2020

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
I feel better about it today.

They can't just shut the world down for 18 months, so it won't be as bleak as that. If they do shut things down for successive intermittent periods, they'll need to provide economic support across the board which should hopefully keep people afloat until it's over. I might lose my job but I'll figure something out if that happens and in the meantime I'm gonna stop paying so much attention to every little detail and just restrict my time thinking about this to a daily update so I know what behaviour I need to adjust or maintain.

At least the virus is fairly mild so most people don't have to seriously worry about that part of it.

Son of Rodney
Feb 22, 2006

ohmygodohmygodohmygod

ThermoPhysical posted:

https://www.npr.org/2020/03/17/816501871/poll-as-coronavirus-spreads-fewer-americans-see-pandemic-as-a-real-threat

I was forced to go to Walmart to get amoxicillin and Prednisone for asthma-related respiratory infection and it was PACKED.

People don't care at all about anything.

The only thing different is everyone avoided me because of my mask (which I actually need).

This legitimately worries me for my 82 year old mother, roommate with MS meds that cause him to be immunocompromised, and for myself.

Hell, no one in my family takes it seriously but me.

Seeing as the us is lagging behind Europe about 2 weeks I predict it will happen as it did here in Germany. People know and kinda try to go on with their life, and from one day to the next poo poo turns real and people stay home. The difference in public opinion from last Monday to last Friday was extreme, Monday people were joking around, Friday it was pretty grim.

I hope for your sake that It happens like that, at least.

Old Boot
May 9, 2012



Buglord
Rrf. I have to pick up items I ordered on Monday at around 8am when I get off work.

Here's hoping it's not a complete shitshow.

EDIT: vaguely tempted to get a haircut before that's not an option anymore. Probably shouldn't though, esp since Wisconsin is going with this now:

quote:

“People who do not require hospitalization or people that have mild respiratory symptoms for which they wouldn’t normally go to the doctor, many times we have a cold and go to the pharmacy to get over the counter medications, we actually want those patients to not go get tested, even assuming that some of them have COVID-19,” said Dr. Ryan Westergaard, Chief Medical Officer of the Bureau of Communicable Diseases.

Old Boot fucked around with this message at 09:39 on Mar 18, 2020

SulfurMonoxideCute
Feb 9, 2008

I was under direct orders not to die
🐵❌💀

Alberta seems to be responding pretty quickly, a ton of business and organizations have shut down willingly without waiting to be told to, or throwing tantrums about it like so many other places. Apparently it's like a ghost town out there, but I still haven't left my house so I haven't experienced it.

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

sucks to be right

Old Boot posted:

EDIT: vaguely tempted to get a haircut before that's not an option anymore. Probably shouldn't though, esp since Wisconsin is going with this now:

quote:

“People who do not require hospitalization or people that have mild respiratory symptoms for which they wouldn’t normally go to the doctor, many times we have a cold and go to the pharmacy to get over the counter medications, we actually want those patients to not go get tested, even assuming that some of them have COVID-19,” said Dr. Ryan Westergaard, Chief Medical Officer of the Bureau of Communicable Diseases.

If they've only got a very limited number of 'Roni tests then that's probably the most sensible reaction, save them for the people who REALLY need them since most people won't really be in much danger if/when they get it. If the people who get mild flu symptoms practice self-isolation and take sensible precautions then that's about all they would be able to do even if they knew for sure they had COVID-19 anyway. :shrug:

Of course, that's in a perfect world where people react sensibly and responsibly to getting sick and where everyone's workplace is letting people take an adequate amount of paid leave for illnesses even if they haven't been confirmed to have COVID-19. In the actual world we live in? /tugs collar nervously

Old Boot
May 9, 2012



Buglord

Snowglobe of Doom posted:

Of course, that's in a perfect world where people react sensibly and responsibly to getting sick and where everyone's workplace is letting people take an adequate amount of paid leave for illnesses even if they haven't been confirmed to have COVID-19. In the actual world we live in? /tugs collar nervously

Yeah my own workplace is suddenly being a lot more wishy-washy about how they're going to manage this, and I can't get a straight answer about whether or not it's 'drain all PTO during quarantine, then go unpaid.'

The answer I got from on high is the usual poo poo that's bullet-riddled with caveats, which is to say, 'we'll be reviewing it on a case by case basis.' As in, they'll base it on travel, how the virus got transmitted (???) and so on. Which says to me that it's what it always is: drain your personal PTO, then go unpaid, and if you drop below a certain threshold, you're required to pay for your own benefits!

Which means we can expect the same poo poo that happened with the flu, re: people coming in well before they stopped being contagious.

I should be grateful I still have work, I guess, but christ almighty...

Hadlock
Nov 9, 2004

fdjkbnadjnbkjldaf posted:

I got nothin, probate or ban me. Drank too much reading the replies, and replied.

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

Is there a formal or informal term for onset of depression via looming pandemic end-of-days

Starting to see some dire offhand comments in chat at work

One guy mentioned, unprompted, in the coronavirus thread, he recently took up breadmaking, and that it is "meditative" :crossarms:

I think the uncertainty and slight tinge of "end of the world" is definitely impacting people. I see a lot of replies to this thread and the other one, just directed at the void, about their concern

People on facebook are randomly lashing out, monday was an interesting day to watch people's reactions to their finances/jobs being doomed.

Switchback
Jul 23, 2001


I’m the official corporate response plan.

Lil Swamp Booger Baby
Aug 1, 1981

Old Boot posted:

Yeah my own workplace is suddenly being a lot more wishy-washy about how they're going to manage this, and I can't get a straight answer about whether or not it's 'drain all PTO during quarantine, then go unpaid.'

The answer I got from on high is the usual poo poo that's bullet-riddled with caveats, which is to say, 'we'll be reviewing it on a case by case basis.' As in, they'll base it on travel, how the virus got transmitted (???) and so on. Which says to me that it's what it always is: drain your personal PTO, then go unpaid, and if you drop below a certain threshold, you're required to pay for your own benefits!

Which means we can expect the same poo poo that happened with the flu, re: people coming in well before they stopped being contagious.

I should be grateful I still have work, I guess, but christ almighty...

Businesses have it in their "best interest" to drag poo poo out as long as possible even if it makes things signifigantly worse in the end.

unpacked robinhood
Feb 18, 2013

by Fluffdaddy
No gym means i'm turning into painful jelly :cheers:

sassassin
Apr 3, 2010

by Azathoth

large_gourd posted:

I feel better about it today.

They can't just shut the world down for 18 months, so it won't be as bleak as that. If they do shut things down for successive intermittent periods, they'll need to provide economic support across the board which should hopefully keep people afloat until it's over. I might lose my job but I'll figure something out if that happens and in the meantime I'm gonna stop paying so much attention to every little detail and just restrict my time thinking about this to a daily update so I know what behaviour I need to adjust or maintain.

At least the virus is fairly mild so most people don't have to seriously worry about that part of it.

We're going to realise that the world doesn't care if like half of what people do at their jobs stops indefinitely. Essential services make up a small fraction of the labour market. Whole industries will collapse and only a handful of billionaires will really miss them beyond some wistful nostalgia.

During wartime rationing many of the poorest people were eating better than they were before. When governments are forced to look after their people instead of aiding in their exploitation we might be surprised how much fairer the world becomes.

The waters are clear in Venice. The swans are back.

Ralph Crammed In
May 11, 2007

Let's get clean and smart


My whole family lives in Eastern Washington, which has always had a streak of "gently caress those high and mighty west siders" so I was worried that they'd think this only effected those dumb west siders. I spoke to them all to tell of how bad it actually is in Europe.

My grandpa was supposed to go the VA hospital this week for some follow up stuff regarding a surgery he had a few years ago, but it's been canceled. I'm relieved a little but I wish my family back home was taking this more seriously. Both my parents are over 60 and my surviving set of grandparents are well into their 80s. I spoke to my mom Monday to ask her how things were and she said "I dunno, gotta go to the post office and bank after church, will let you know". And she was supposed to take my grandpa to his appointment as well. She's stopped going to church daily because the bishop has forbidden public Masses, which is a big deal (for the past week or so it's been just no weekend masses due to the higher numbers and people over 60 are given dispension for not attending, but now even weekday masses are canceled). My mom is pretty upset about this and I think maybe this is driving home to her that this is should be taken very seriously. However, my sister's kids are with her now all day so I guess we will just have to see.

I also talked to my dad, who is pre-diabetic and had prostate cancer a few years ago, and told him to take this seriously. He said he was but he's never been a big rule follower. My brother was still going to the Indian casino too up until they voluntarily shut down. So I'm hoping statistics are on our side.

Old Boot
May 9, 2012



Buglord

Lil Swamp Booger Baby posted:

Businesses have it in their "best interest" to drag poo poo out as long as possible even if it makes things signifigantly worse in the end.

Oh I know.

You just hope for higher standards when you work in health care during a health crisis. Granted, it's on the clerical side, but we're all in regular contact with nurses, and most of our patients are in the high risk pool (elderly/hospice) so :lmao:

:suicide:

Helios Grime
Jan 27, 2012

Where we are going we won't need shirts
Pillbug

Switchback posted:


I’m the official corporate response plan.

Oh, I've done business with your company.

MarcusSA
Sep 23, 2007

Oof

https://twitter.com/bnodesk/status/1240220596438544384?s=21

Setset
Apr 14, 2012
Grimey Drawer
GBS > We Are All Gonna Die: I’ve put a baguette in the freezer, just in case

QuarkJets
Sep 8, 2008

large_gourd posted:

At least the virus is fairly mild so most people don't have to seriously worry about that part of it.

It's still unclear to me how many infected people can truly be considered "mild" in the way people normally think about illness, like how a mild cold might be sniffles and a cough for a few days. The studies of case severity designated "mild" as anyone who doesn't require a machine to breathe for them, I'm more interested in the people who are actually asymptomatic or so mildly symptomatic that they barely notice that they have it; I have absolutely no sense for how common those cases are. All of the case reports I've read describe significantly diminished breathing capacity, aches and pains throughout the body, high fever, and being sapped of energy for up to a few weeks; what's the frequency of cases where people just trudge along and are like "oh I had coronavirus? Weird"

unpacked robinhood
Feb 18, 2013

by Fluffdaddy
I've got people posting conspiracy stuff based around the wording on that patent, which goes this way:

quote:

NOVEL STRAIN OF SARS-ASSOCIATED CORONAVIRUS AND APPLICATIONS THEREOF

The invention relates to the use of proteins and peptides coded by the genome of the isolated or purified strain of severe acute respiratory syndrome (SARS)-associated coronavirus, resulting from sample reference number 031589 and, in particular, to the use of protein S and the derivative antibodies thereof as diagnostic reagents and as a vaccine.

Disco Pope
Dec 6, 2004

Top Class!

sweet thursday posted:

That's still happening? Wtf?

I did an online self assessment (Scotland) the other day (I have a slight cough, but also minor nasal stuff, so I dont think it's the Roni and neither did the test) and it was still asking if I'd been to China lately. I've been self isolating as much as possible for a few days now and I'm working from home, but jeez.

Old Boot
May 9, 2012



Buglord
Lol nm it looks like we'll probably be doing the 'borrow future pto and go into the negatives for a while' poo poo.

Good times good times.

Setset
Apr 14, 2012
Grimey Drawer

up uP UP!

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Mnoba
Jun 24, 2010

Old Boot posted:

Lol nm it looks like we'll probably be doing the 'borrow future pto and go into the negatives for a while' poo poo.

Good times good times.

what happens if you quit while in negative pto?

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