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Who is your first pick in the deputy leadership race?
This poll is closed.
R. Allin-Khan 6 1.60%
R. Burgon 80 21.33%
D. Butler 72 19.20%
A. Rayner 35 9.33%
I. Murray 5 1.33%
P. Flaps 177 47.20%
Total: 375 votes
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OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

I would definitely eat whatever that unidentifiable brown fried substance is on the first picture.

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Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

:discourse:
It's what's for dinner.

That piece of paper makes me think she just bought this from a van in a lay-by and is trying to pass it off as her own

fridge corn
Apr 2, 2003

NO MERCY, ONLY PAIN :black101:

JeremoudCorbynejad posted:

That piece of paper makes me think she just bought this from a van in a lay-by and is trying to pass it off as her own

No she didnt claim that one for her own but it is an excessively bad photo so I included it

Bardeh
Dec 2, 2004

Fun Shoe
Seems like Norway could be on top of things :unsmith:

https://twitter.com/Covid19Norway/status/1241692983860375553

bornbytheriver
Apr 23, 2010
The panto clown is telling that if we can't have people acting sensibly and maintain distance, he'll introduce prohibition.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Prohibition of what?

Small Strange Bird
Sep 22, 2006

Merci, chaton!

OwlFancier posted:

Prohibition of what?
Fun.

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012
Trump does have the genocide in Puerto Rico and the impending genocide in Iran on his hands. That's worth noting.

bump_fn
Apr 12, 2004

two of them

if you outlaw jerkin it only outlaws will be jerkin it

bornbytheriver
Apr 23, 2010

OwlFancier posted:

Prohibition of what?

Good question. I am presuming free movement. But maybe he drank himself to sleep last night and Carrie asked the No 10 staff to remove all the alcohol from the building, so he is just harking back to the original prohibition.

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

bump_fn posted:

if you outlaw jerkin it only outlaws will be jerkin it

Fill your hand, you son of a bitch!

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Communist Thoughts posted:

can someone repost the details for the UKMT solidarity fund? wanna throw some money at it and probably good to remind people it exists.
It's in the OP and also here:

Maugrim posted:

:siren: The UKMT Solidarity Fund is now live! :siren:

This has taken way longer than it was ever meant to (for various reasons as Rarity has already explained), but the pandemic and the current dire straits faced by many workers have finally galvanised us to Get Brexit UKMTSF Done.
  • Our draft constitution can be found here. If you care, please peruse it and feed back - it pretty much follows the suggestions that fell out of the first meeting back in December, so there shouldn't be any huge surprises, but I'm not a lawyer so there are probably holes to be picked in it. I'll leave a day or two for discussion before we adopt it and officially become an unincorporated association.

  • Due to the coronavirus making it unwise to travel around and meet up in person, the Fund's bank account is currently a temporary one held solely by the account holder (IrvingWashington, aka Bill Drummond on Discord). In due course we plan to move to a clubs and societies bank account with at least two signatories for added security, so we won't be offended if people prefer to hold off donating until that happens.

  • The limit on total donations to the Fund via PayPal is currently £2500 a year. We'll be insanely surprised and pleased if we get close to hitting this, but just to be on the safe side, donations via bank transfer are preferable.

Now the actual details - Guavanaut if you could add this info to the OP that would be super awesome:

:siren: How to Donate Funds: :siren: Paypal - https://paypal.me/ukmtsolidarity OR Bank Transfer - PM IrvingWashington (aka Bill Drummond on Discord) for account details
:siren: How to Apply for Funds: :siren: Fill in the Google Form OR PM a committee member on forum or Discord: AceClown, Fargle (discord only), Maugrim, Oscar Diggs or Rarity.

Thanks folks - hoping this will really help some comrades in need.

Communist Thoughts posted:

i've been thinking a lot about the food situation. I think whats worrying is the gov is basically saying "lol toilet paper is plentiful and we make it all here, it wont run out" and yet its not getting on shelves, suggesting a problem with the supply chain of a basic thing that we are meant to have plenty of.
we don't make the majority of our own food so how is that supposed to make it to the shelves on time?
This is one of the end shelves at my local Co-Op, not an Americandy store, and normally you'd find whatever clearance items they had.



Someone's having fun with the supply chain.

Ah, the fabled bollocknase :stonkhat:

bornbytheriver posted:

The panto clown is telling that if we can't have people acting sensibly and maintain distance, he'll introduce prohibition.
Famous policies that worked well and did good.

Guavanaut fucked around with this message at 18:45 on Mar 22, 2020

BizarroAzrael
Apr 6, 2006

"That must weigh heavily on your soul. Let me purge it for you."

Julio Cruz posted:

like Biden is loving awful but I don't think you really need a reason to vote for him against Trump

Trump can only have four more years, Biden can have eight, or more likely 4 followed by letting in an even more fascist Republican.

Lungboy
Aug 23, 2002

NEED SQUAT FORM HELP
Joris' dad is applying for a French passport.

baka kaba
Jul 19, 2003

PLEASE ASK ME, THE SELF-PROFESSED NO #1 PAUL CATTERMOLE FAN IN THE SOMETHING AWFUL S-CLUB 7 MEGATHREAD, TO NAME A SINGLE SONG BY HIS EXCELLENT NU-METAL SIDE PROJECT, SKUA, AND IF I CAN'T PLEASE TELL ME TO
EAT SHIT

bornbytheriver posted:

Good question. I am presuming free movement. But maybe he drank himself to sleep last night and Carrie asked the No 10 staff to remove all the alcohol from the building, so he is just harking back to the original prohibition.

he did only manage to drag himself out of bed after noon to tweet "uh btw don't go visit your mum today"

thespaceinvader
Mar 30, 2011

The slightest touch from a Gol-Shogeg will result in Instant Death!

Doctor_Fruitbat posted:

Okay then. Biden and Trump both put children in cages, they are both evil pieces of poo poo backed by other evil pieces of poo poo and they mustn't be legitimised with a vote.

The trouble with this logic is that one of them will be. You can't stop that from happening by stamping your foot in a huff and refusing to participate.

BizarroAzrael posted:

Trump can only have four more years, Biden can have eight, or more likely 4 followed by letting in an even more fascist Republican.

Bold of you to assume that Trmp would actually leave in 4 years.

ro5s
Dec 27, 2012

A happy little mouse!

thespaceinvader posted:

Bold of you to assume that Trmp would actually leave in 4 years.

I'm legitimately amazed he's survived to the end of his term, I thought something would have finished him off by now. He must have that Mr Burns immunity

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

:discourse:
It's what's for dinner.
"A is good but it's not perfect, so I want B, the bad option"


e: 651 deaths in Italy. Number coming down, hopefully?

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!


not voting because neither candidate is offering what you want is participating in democracy

moreso than voting blindly for who the news tells you to

Guavanaut posted:

It's in the OP and also here:

thanks! quids in for goons in need

Julio Cruz
May 19, 2006

BizarroAzrael posted:

Trump can only have four more years, Biden can have eight, or more likely 4 followed by letting in an even more fascist Republican.

yeah there's absolutely no way that Trump leads to more fascism in the Republican party, Biden is the real danger here

Doctor_Fruitbat
Jun 2, 2013


JeremoudCorbynejad posted:

"A is good but it's not perfect, so I want B, the bad option"

They're both bad, and Biden is so senile he will literally just be a mouthpiece for corporate interests continuing to gouge the same as under Trump. Like I get the sentiment, but they are both sensationally bad candidates, it is not a case of letting the perfect be the enemy of the good.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
I hope the lead brained old white man doesn't win.

baka kaba
Jul 19, 2003

PLEASE ASK ME, THE SELF-PROFESSED NO #1 PAUL CATTERMOLE FAN IN THE SOMETHING AWFUL S-CLUB 7 MEGATHREAD, TO NAME A SINGLE SONG BY HIS EXCELLENT NU-METAL SIDE PROJECT, SKUA, AND IF I CAN'T PLEASE TELL ME TO
EAT SHIT

The problem is it's a two-party system, and the Dems are just fine with being in opposition and just doing performative bullshit to rapturous applause from liberals. So the whole "don't vote" thing won't cause a rethink, they're fine with losing so long as they don't have someone like Bernie representing them or especially leading them to victory. Any kind of reform will happen at a glacial pace, unless people can start taking over the party apparatus and forcing a change through

the Republicans are at least pretending to offer a more left-wing platform than the Democrats right now. Like they can't even bring themselves to pay lip service to it

baka kaba fucked around with this message at 19:13 on Mar 22, 2020

fridge corn
Apr 2, 2003

NO MERCY, ONLY PAIN :black101:

Julio Cruz posted:

yeah there's absolutely no way that Trump leads to more fascism in the Republican party, Biden is the real danger here

Trump was the direct reaction to a lovely ineffectual centrist Democratic administration think about what happens when another one comes into power while everything continues to fall apart

Mr Luxury Yacht
Apr 16, 2012


Doctor_Fruitbat posted:

They're both bad, and Biden is so senile he will literally just be a mouthpiece for corporate interests continuing to gouge the same as under Trump. Like I get the sentiment, but they are both sensationally bad candidates, it is not a case of letting the perfect be the enemy of the good.

At the same time though letting Trump nominate any more supreme court justices (which let's face it is almost a certainty if he wins given RBG's age and health) would be a hell of a lot more damaging for things like abortion rights way beyond another four year term. Biden may be garbage, but I don't see him (or the democratic politicians guiding him when his brain turns to pudding) nominating an anti-choice justice.

BizarroAzrael
Apr 6, 2006

"That must weigh heavily on your soul. Let me purge it for you."

JeremoudCorbynejad posted:

"A is good but it's not perfect, so I want B, the bad option"


e: 651 deaths in Italy. Number coming down, hopefully?

A isn't good though, and in some ways worse than B. And it's not wanting B, it's refusing to validate either.

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

Mr Luxury Yacht posted:

At the same time though letting Trump nominate any more supreme court justices (which let's face it is almost a certainty if he wins given RBG's age and health) would be a hell of a lot more damaging for things like abortion rights way beyond another four year term. Biden may be garbage, but I don't see him (or the democratic politicians guiding him when his brain turns to pudding) nominating an anti-choice justice.

You might want to look up Biden's involvement with the appointment of Clarence Thomas then. Also the Dems have terminal Sorkin-brain and would absolutely let the Republicans get away with their bullshit tactics in delaying and blocking new justices just like they did with Obama, and probably end up nominating someone straight off the Republicans list for :decorum: and bipartisanship reasons.

e: The Republicans will find a gay black woman nominee (who happens to believe that corporations should be allowed to harvest the organs of their employees) and the Dems will fall over themselves to approve her.

goddamnedtwisto fucked around with this message at 19:31 on Mar 22, 2020

Doctor_Fruitbat
Jun 2, 2013


I'm not going to say that people are wrong for voting Biden over Trump, it's more that, if he gets the nomination then you might as well do whatever because the election is once again irrevocably lost to corporate evil, and personally I'd go for a spoilt ballot, assuming they even count those in America.

thespaceinvader
Mar 30, 2011

The slightest touch from a Gol-Shogeg will result in Instant Death!
So, what?

Corporate fascism wins in the USA unless there's another revolution which the good guys would inevitably lose because the don't have tanks and combat drones?

Lady Gaza
Nov 20, 2008

I’ve got an Ocado delivery tomorrow and I want to tip the driver but obviously worried about physical proximity and also how he might feel accepting cash (not the cleanest of things). Any suggestions?

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
lol if you think this guy has any chance of winning. apologies for the meme version. the democrats know that he's going to lose but they're fine with that because they love the republican tax cuts. pelosi is worth like $200m and the left upset that and their donors and the money dries up

https://twitter.com/Roll_On_Radio/status/1241686569150545921?s=20

feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008

Lady Gaza posted:

I’ve got an Ocado delivery tomorrow and I want to tip the driver but obviously worried about physical proximity and also how he might feel accepting cash (not the cleanest of things). Any suggestions?

Use coins, immerse them in boiling water (and possibly soap) for a good long while?

namesake
Jun 19, 2006

"When I was a girl, around 12 or 13, I had a fantasy that I'd grow up to marry Captain Scarlet, but he'd be busy fighting the Mysterons so I'd cuckold him with the sexiest people I could think of - Nigel Mansell, Pat Sharp and Mr. Blobby."

Julio Cruz posted:

how exactly does refusing to vote for a Starmer-led Labour party move us any closer to socialism

because in the short-term it's just enabling more Tory austerity and in the longer-term whoever comes next after Starmer is going to look at the absolute thrashing he gets and just tack further right in an attempt to chase the votes

Because leftwing policy will rely on:

1) Starmers innate desires to push through progressive policy which are questionable as to their extent
2) The left credibly saying 'Whatever your agenda is while in power requires including us and our platform or we all get nowhere.'

It's not disappearing into the night, it's making a political argument which can be ignored at their peril, politically argued with or accepted. During the period of argument you can generate recruits and converts to your ideas, during periods of powerlessness you continue to organise and fight the battles you can win to gain power and eventually we capture meaningful positions or numbers and then use the power directly. That's how politics works.

Julio Cruz
May 19, 2006

namesake posted:

During the period of argument you can generate recruits and converts to your ideas, during periods of powerlessness you continue to organise and fight the battles you can win to gain power and eventually we capture meaningful positions or numbers and then use the power directly. That's how politics works.

except you're choosing a period of powerlessness over potentially a period of power, which will have actual real-world consequences

you can still organise and make changes lower down in the system while in government and also as a bonus you get to not have hundreds of thousands of poor people die

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Julio Cruz posted:

you can still organise and make changes lower down in the system while in government

That may not actually be true, in that being in government actively discourages doing that.

big scary monsters
Sep 2, 2011

-~Skullwave~-

feedmegin posted:

Use coins, immerse them in boiling water (and possibly soap) for a good long while?

You rat! How could you tip your own driver the spicy pound coin?

blunt
Jul 7, 2005

Lady Gaza posted:

I’ve got an Ocado delivery tomorrow and I want to tip the driver but obviously worried about physical proximity and also how he might feel accepting cash (not the cleanest of things). Any suggestions?

Put it in an envelope and tell them not to open it for 3 days?

sassassin
Apr 3, 2010

by Azathoth

feedmegin posted:

Use coins, immerse them in boiling water (and possibly soap) for a good long while?

Soapy water kills the virus.

crispix
Mar 28, 2015

Grand-Maman m'a raconté
(Les éditions des amitiés franco-québécoises)

Hello, dear
Sing the delivery driver a lovely song instead imo for to warm the cockles of their heart in these dark times.

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GazChap
Dec 4, 2004

I'm hungry. Feed me.

JeremoudCorbynejad posted:

e: 651 deaths in Italy. Number coming down, hopefully?
Hopefully, although the daily numbers have been lower than the preceding day three times in the past week so it could just be a "blip" :/

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