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Randler posted:Home Office entblößt in einem riesigen Umfang wie schlecht manche Kollegen sind, wenn sie nicht physisch durch andere mitgezogen werden und ihnen ihre ganzen Parallelprozesse wegfallen. this is a pandemic op, not regular home office
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My Lovely Horse posted:Jesus No poo poo. This is a really bad idea, unless you are explicitly out for bad publicity.  Hopper posted:3rd week of social distancing and home office for me and the gf and 2nd week of Ausgangssperre here in Bavaria. I am fortunate to have the woods right near me here in the South West of Munich so I go running 7-10k every 3 days. I felt the same way roughly a week ago but I got "better" somehow. I guess it makes sense, people get used to any bad situation after a while. (After all, prisons somehow work without people going insane in them all the time.)
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Apr 2, 2020 10:03
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Goa Tse-tung posted:this is a pandemic op, not regular home office That line of thinking has not been approved by the C-level. 
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Apr 2, 2020 10:09
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Me and the gf have been ordering a lot of stuff from local artists on Etsy and many of them just come over personally to deliver the package, already made a number of new isolation friends 
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Apr 2, 2020 10:39
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Frage an das Kollektiv- a friend of mine got dropped down to 50%, and now 'to ensure continuity of process' the company is expecting her to work Monday to Thursday, albeit on reduced hours (some bullshit like 9:45-14:15 three days and then Thursday for like 2 hours. Is that allowed? Smells like bullshit HR ghouls to me. It seems also that no one is answering this question in any form online- first time in a while that I googled around for like half an hour and came up empty. Is this what research felt like in the 80s?
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Apr 2, 2020 10:55
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Is that Kurzarbeit? From what I know your work hours will be halved (like if you work 40hrs a week, you now work 20hrs) and the employer pays 50% of your salary but the state chips in for 60-67% of your remaining salary, but netto. So from my understanding if you make 2.000 brutto for 40 hours, under Kurzarbeit you'll get: 1.000 brutto for 20 hours (so assuming taxes and poo poo run you 200€ like 800 netto) 600-670 netto for the Ausfall, totalling 1.400 netto-ish for half the hours. (assuming 20% for taxes and poo poo holds true, you'd get 1.600 netto for 40 hours under regular circumstances) basically: if you get the Kurzarbeitergeld and only have to work half the hours, it should check out. (edit: lol, I googled and apparently there's a ton of variety to this. so yeah, YMMV a lot, but if it sounds shady, it might be) (also chiming in the depression/anxiety debate to say that Home Office/WFH isn't just working from home, it's coping with a pandemic/collective traumatic experience from home and it's totally ok if you feel down. Get help, talk to people, exercise, don't flagellate yourself if you don't get everything done. gently caress those people who come up to you and go "hey now that you got all this free time, do you wanna do this and that?" just assuming it's like a holiday.) Zwille fucked around with this message at 11:22 on Apr 2, 2020 |
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Apr 2, 2020 11:12
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mercantilism posted:It seems also that no one is answering this question in any form online- first time in a while that I googled around for like half an hour and came up empty. Is this what research felt like in the 80s? Might be HR bullshit, might be legal. Depends on stuff. There actually are a lot of online sources, but it is very hard for a layman to tell apart the good from the bad and how different things work together in a specific case. Which only gets more difficult because when people ask about specific cases, they usually omit a lot of relevant information, so answers stay abstract because nobody has the time to write down all the possibilities in a manner that is digestable to laypeople or engage in a fact finding mission on a public forum. (That would actually be a thing the orphaned thread discord could be used for, because you can ask question and explain things via text in a 1:1 situation.)
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Apr 2, 2020 11:22
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Randler posted:(That would actually be a thing the orphaned thread discord could be used for, because you can ask question and explain things via text in a 1:1 situation.) The permanent invite link in case anyone wants to wiederbeleben the thread Discord: https://discord.gg/Xx8rSEY
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Apr 2, 2020 11:31
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Will German unemployment numbers be as tremendously awful as the ones in the USA?
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Apr 2, 2020 15:07
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The numbers come pre-tampered and will look too good for anyones liking. The methodology is flawed is what I wanted to say.
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Apr 2, 2020 15:31
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cant cook creole bream posted:Will German unemployment numbers be as tremendously awful as the ones in the USA? What do you mean awful? The Dow Jones is up, didn't you see!
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cant cook creole bream posted:Will German unemployment numbers be as tremendously awful as the ones in the USA? Gonna guess unemployment won't be as bad as in the USA, but a poo poo ton of people will get kurzarbeit. I don't know how many companies are forcing people to take mandatory vacation (or even if they can).
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Apr 2, 2020 15:43
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470.000 Firmen haben Kurzarbeit angemeldet.
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Apr 2, 2020 15:45
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elbkaida posted:What do you mean awful? The Dow Jones is up, didn't you see! It's absolutely hilarious to watch. Historically unprecedented rise in unemployment of 6 mio people and DOW jumps up by 2% in response to these great news  (I mean I know it's probably because the numbers are better than expected, but still absolutely hilarious)
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Apr 2, 2020 15:47
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GABA ghoul posted:It's absolutely hilarious to watch. Historically unprecedented rise in unemployment of 6 mio people and DOW jumps up by 2% in response to these great news It'll do some heavy crashing again once public lockdown gets extended and workers continue staying at home lmao. Then we'll get a second infection wave come September or October.
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Apr 2, 2020 15:52
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GABA ghoul posted:It's absolutely hilarious to watch. Historically unprecedented rise in unemployment of 6 mio people and DOW jumps up by 2% in response to these great news No, it means that the MASSIVE COST SAVINGS due to the reduced head count mean better profits for the share holders. That’s all. And it needs to loving go away.
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Apr 2, 2020 16:14
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Unfettered by the costly and vestigial burden that is labor, value may now fly free unto distant horizons
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Apr 2, 2020 16:22
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Tarquinn posted:No, it means that the MASSIVE COST SAVINGS due to the reduced head count mean better profits for the share holders. That’s all. And it needs to loving go away. I think everyone expects second quarter profits to be disastrous. It's already priced in, to some degree. Everyone also expects thing to start normalizing in the third quarter so buying company stakes right now seems like a great bargain. Add in the massive free financial industry stimulus money that has nowhere to go but into stocks and it kinda explains what is going on right now. I think we are witnessing the biggest upward wealth redistribution in human history. This is loving insane. Gonna be interesting to see the gini coefficient after this shitshow is over. Also, gently caress Trump.
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Apr 2, 2020 16:26
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Ika posted:Gonna guess unemployment won't be as bad as in the USA, but a poo poo ton of people will get kurzarbeit. I don't know how many companies are forcing people to take mandatory vacation (or even if they can). quote:Die Voraussetzungen für Kurzarbeitergeld sind im Sozialgesetzbuch III genau geregelt. Kurzarbeit kann der Arbeitgeber demnach anmelden, wenn der Arbeitsausfall unvermeidbar ist und der Betrieb alles getan hat, um ihn zu vermindern oder zu beheben. "Das bedeutet, dass zunächst auch Zeitguthaben, Überstunden oder Ähnliches 'abgefeiert' werden müssen", erklärt der Arbeitsrechtler Johannes Schipp. Zudem sei es möglich, Urlaub anzuordnen, soweit die betreffenden Urlaubstage nicht schon genehmigt sind. Urlaub, der schon genehmigt ist, könne vom Arbeitgeber nicht ohne weiteres wieder gestrichen werden. If your managers care about you they're going to tell you in advance to schedule vacations for later in the year 
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https://twitter.com/LinksfraktionB/status/1245689322164097025
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Apr 2, 2020 18:46
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berlin being the best once again, what else is new
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Apr 2, 2020 19:32
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you know i kinda enjoy this more positively posting oliwan, maybe there is something to the horse tranquilizer maybe oliwan is secretly a horse
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Apr 2, 2020 20:04
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That's old news though, it was decided last year at some point wasn't it? I mean of course it is good but I thought it was already decided that would happen. Hopper fucked around with this message at 20:09 on Apr 2, 2020 |
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Apr 2, 2020 20:07
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 17% of Germans are Goons.
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mercantilism posted:Frage an das Kollektiv- a friend of mine got dropped down to 50%, and now 'to ensure continuity of process' the company is expecting her to work Monday to Thursday, albeit on reduced hours (some bullshit like 9:45-14:15 three days and then Thursday for like 2 hours. Is that allowed? Smells like bullshit HR ghouls to me. Generally, the contractually agreed upon hours ("Willy Wageslave has to work 40 hours a week.") cannot be reduced by the employer unilaterally. As such, ordering Kurzarbeit requires the consent of the employee or the works council ("Betriebsrat"). The scheduling on when the work has to be performed by the employee can generally be unilaterally decided by the employer within reason and applicable law, e.g. no shuffling schedules around to dodge Entgeltfortzahlung on public holidays. If the contract between employer and employee has strict terms regarding schedules, those are generally binding for the employer.
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Honj Steak posted:
tbh I'm more weirded out by the 8% who went out and partied it up every day
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Apr 2, 2020 21:50
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A lot of people probably meet friends or colleagues they don't directly work with for lunch during their workday and consider that "private". I know several people who do that in my circle of friends.
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Apr 2, 2020 22:19
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Yeah, I have to assume they don't mean hanging out at a bar till 6 in the morning each night.
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cant cook creole bream posted:Yeah, I have to assume they don't mean hanging out at a bar till 6 in the morning each night. Wait, people go to bars till the sun comes out to meet people?
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Apr 3, 2020 05:23
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Yesterday, Welt (RIP N24) had a 20-minute bit about USA flailing around in the current chaos, and while it was only running on my secondary screen and I wasn't paying much attention, I immediately had this extremely visceral reaction to it without even looking or listening intently to what was being said. See if you can figure out why. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8gffhy8Yzg
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Apr 3, 2020 05:43
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Duzzy Funlop posted:Yesterday, Welt (RIP N24) had a 20-minute bit about USA flailing around in the current chaos, and while it was only running on my secondary screen and I wasn't paying much attention, I immediately had this extremely visceral reaction to it without even looking or listening intently to what was being said. maaan so viel zeit hat doch kein mensch
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Apr 3, 2020 06:41
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Welt is right wing Axel Springer trash, right? why would you ever watch that
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Apr 3, 2020 07:40
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n24 became welt when springer bought them, but before that they were part of prosiebensat1, which is strunz-city - they have always been trash
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Apr 3, 2020 09:44
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Apr 3, 2020 09:56
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Writing as many invoices as I can before our clients run out of cash and waiting for my bulk order of chocolate to finish it's 72 hour stay in the hallway of quarantine.
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Apr 3, 2020 10:17
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WFH doing as much as I have to to fulfill minimum requirements. But that's just my usual Friday. Also right now cooking eggs for Ayitamago (Ramen eggs) while working in preparation for dinner. Will go nicely with the porkbelly I made yesterday while working.
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Apr 3, 2020 10:48
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Hopper posted:WFH doing as much as I have to to fulfill minimum requirements. But that's just my usual Friday. Same. Also I'll have to move in with my gf for the next couple of weeks since the house next door got torn down and they'll ram some poo poo into the ground for the new construction
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Apr 3, 2020 10:58
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ephex posted:Same. congrats on the sex!
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Apr 3, 2020 11:07
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Got Fridays off anyway so I’m relaxing while my flatmate cooks up an Auflauf. Went to pick up a prescription for my mum from the doc but they had already posted it  Downloaded The Division 2 on PS4 yesterday because a buddy kept bugging me and we started the campaign. It’s great! Love closing car doors and vaulting over cover. The whole „militia clears up neighborhoods“ shtick feels borderline fascist though. But oh well. Gonna try and shop at Metro on Tuesday and see if they got any Klopi.
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It has Tom Clancy in it. Of course it's fascist as hell.
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