Lambert posted:

What? "Yet they have all the things we don't have: centrist leaders, reliance on experts & strong public health system. Which challenges the "Trump caused the disastrous US response" thesis"

How brain damaged do you have to be for this to make any sense at all

Spergin Morlock posted:

so what are the odds they did this on purpose to try to shrink the homeless population

Scrub-Niggurath posted:

imagine believing cnn

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twoday posted:

Did trump just say he wants China to take over the WHO and that the WTO should reclassify America as a developing nation

GWBBQ posted:

Two-three weeks after Easter, the US South is going to be a living hell like we haven't seen since the Civil War.

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MarcusSA posted:

0 loving % you weirdo.

twoday posted:

"US virologist Robert Gallo of the Institute of Human Virology in Maryland has confirmed he is working with a team who will make an announcement shortly that will have “a major effect” on global efforts to tackle Covid-19."

This was the scientist who discovered that HIV causes AIDS, and he was on CNN the other day talking about "an existing vaccine" that could help, and that there would be an announcement soon

MorrisBae posted:

Have any high-level US government people talked about BCG yet publicly

Hoping Fauci is at least aware of the trials in other countries

Spergin Morlock posted:

just to be clear i wasn't talking about the virus in general. i'm talking about the foot dragging on putting homeless people in their own hotel rooms rather than keeping them in shelters.

Flunky posted:

all the PERSECUTED CHRISTIAN types are furiously jacking off at something like this finally coming true

Jel Shaker posted:

I find it amazing how finance and business people see the numbers of dead go down and assume that’s it, corona is over, rather than think two steps ahead and understand that’s the effect of three weeks of lockdown

MarcusSA posted:

again 0%.

putting people in hotels isn’t as easy as people think it is.

I’m sure it’s going to happen eventually but it’s not a snap your fingers thing and it’s done.

MarcusSA posted:

again 0%.

putting people in hotels isn’t as easy as people think it is.

I’m sure it’s going to happen eventually but it’s not a snap your fingers thing and it’s done.

Log082 posted:

I've got a coworker that does nuerochem but keeps up with a lot of adjacent medical stuff because it's related, and he mentioned who I THINK was this guy. If it was the same thing, he was talking about a previous treatment using... some kind of synthetic antibody? developed for SARs, not the BCG vaccine. We'll see though, I could have misunderstood.

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Vim Fuego posted:

so uh, in capitalism when health work is more dangerous and we need more health workers they cut staff pay. And when harvesting food is more dangerous and still needs to be done we... cut workers pay

this will have what result? exactly?

Stereotype posted:

Look, guys, you can't just let people go live in hotel rooms. They are homeless, they don't deserve something so nice and they might break something! Also what if they are just people who would rather stay in an empty hotel room and are faking their homelessness?

There is no way that the richest most advanced nation on earth can do something like let people stay in empty furnished rooms.

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Rynn posted:

It’s a good thing they love Jesus so much because they’re going to meet him. Real soon.

MarcusSA posted:

again 0%.

putting people in hotels isn’t as easy as people think it is.

I’m sure it’s going to happen eventually but it’s not a snap your fingers thing and it’s done.

MarcusSA posted:

again 0%.

putting people in hotels isn’t as easy as people think it is.

I’m sure it’s going to happen eventually but it’s not a snap your fingers thing and it’s done.

Bearjew posted:

is it all over

Bearjew posted:

is it all over

BARONS CYBER SKULL posted:

Bearjew posted:

is it all over

MorrisBae posted:

Have any high-level US government people talked about BCG yet publicly

Hoping Fauci is at least aware of the trials in other countries

BARONS CYBER SKULL posted:

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Soviet defensive. Does BCG prevent coronavirus infection?

The news, which shocked Russia and sounded practically revolutionary, was voiced in the American edition of The New York Times. The media noted that Russia can be reliably protected against coronavirus by BCG vaccine.

The Soviet achievement in the fight against tuberculosis may claim the role of protection against one of today's main threats - coronavirus. This is the conclusion made by scientists in Australia.

For example, Bloomberg cited the head of the department of infectious disease research at the Murdoch Children's Clinical Institute in Melbourne, the professor of infectious diseases in children at the University of Melbourne, and the head of the department of infectious diseases at the Royal Children's Hospital of Melbourne Nigel Curtisabout this theme. “A vaccine can strengthen the immune system so that it is better protected from a number of different infections, a number of different viruses and bacteria in a much more general form than just tuberculosis. In a pandemic situation, we need to think through ways to protect physicians. We would not have gone to such tests if we did not believe that this could work. But we cannot guarantee that our idea will work. And, of course, the only way to find out is to test the idea in practice, ”said the doctor.


QUESTION ANSWER
What is BCG vaccine?The idea in practice and the tests the doctor talks about is a study in which 4,000 doctors in Australia decided to take part. Their goal is to study the effect of the vaccine, known to the world for a hundred years, on coronavirus. The results of the study are expected to be received in six months.
The principle of this study is simple: half of the participants will receive a vaccine (meaning BCG), which has a minimum of side effects, the other half will receive a placebo. Then, the results of the change in the state of health of the subjects will be carefully studied and analyzed.

This idea arose against the background of a small number of infected in Russia and a number of countries of the former Soviet Union. Indeed, before the BCG vaccine was given to everyone without exception. Children receive it 3-5 days after birth right in the hospital.

BCG Rescue
The principle of action of the vaccine, scientists say, is wider than just fighting Koch's wand. After all, it is BCG that is able to widely and actively stimulate the human immune system, achieving a good and lasting effect from it. Of course, it is worthwhile to understand that any vaccine does not cure the disease, its task is to prevent the mass spread of deadly infections by forming the necessary immunity.

Today, experts are studying the map of the spread of coronavirus infection around the world. And noticed interesting results. For example, some of them note that in the countries of the socialist camp, including the GDR, the situation with the spread of coronavirus is not so critical. And in the GDR, too, BCG injected everyone without fail. Now there is a situation where West Germany is suffering from a new infection much more strongly than its eastern part, which was formerly called communist.

Famous Ukrainian pediatrician Yevgeny Komarovsky voiced his observations on this issue . His words are quoted by the media. He also noted that in Ukraine there has not yet been a massive increase in severe forms of the disease with a new infection caused by COVID-19. And also connects this with the fact that the vast majority of people in the country have BCG. “Everyone is trying to find the answer to the question: why is it so good here? Well, really, if we compare with Italy or Spain, we do not have a total pestilence. Although a lot of people come from Italy. And in Russia there is no general pestilence. And in Belarus, no. You can’t hide it. There is a version that BCG vaccination stimulates the immune system in a certain way and reduces the likelihood of severe forms of coronavirus infection, ”the media specialist said.

If you look at the numbers, then indeed - against the background of tens of thousands of deaths in European states, in Ukraine the number of people infected with coronavirus has not even reached 500, in Russia it has crossed the mark of 1000, in Belarus - it does not even reach 100 cases.

Vaccine features
Initially, BCG vaccination is a vaccination against such a formidable disease as tuberculosis. It is based on strains of living tubercle bacillus. The microorganism, as experts say, does not pose a danger to humans, because it first undergoes inactivation. Carrying out vaccination with such a drug protects a person from the occurrence of severe forms of diseases such as, for example, tuberculous meningitis, bone damage, deadly forms of lung infection.

The vaccine was created back in 1921 by scientists Calmet and Guerin . The composition of the drug remains unchanged and includes several subtypes of the causative agent of tuberculosis. A culture of microorganisms for vaccination is obtained by sowing bacilli on a nutrient medium, where they grow for about a week and develop. Then the pathogen is isolated, filtered, concentrated and the resulting vaccine is obtained.


QUESTION ANSWER
What kind of vaccines for coronavirus are being developed in Russia?Russian experts on this subject are so far cautious, arguing that all the necessary studies and tests must be carried out to establish the relationship between BCG and reliable protection against coronavirus. Therefore, the action of Australian doctors will be very welcome. It is possible that the strategy of the country of councils to vaccinate everyone without exception from one terrible disease will help to cope with another.

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