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Chunky Salsa
Aug 31, 2016

"Isn't that right, Zach?"
This stupid country is going to open everything way too early because they're impatient and can't manage to scramble up any other way of being and all I can say is

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dex_sda
Oct 11, 2012


LimburgLimbo's post had data that looks like it points towards there being more junk science in China, btw. I'm just saying, dismissing it outright without seeing stuff like that is just as junk.

MadJackal
Apr 30, 2004

Day…


Day…




Day…



35M w/PMH of depression presents w/ a 19 day hx of going through hell. Found to be broken by COVID-19. Hospital course significant for bearing witness to many, many pts intubated and/or expired. Believes he brought comfort / humanity to some of his pts (results pending). Repeat rereading of his own story scared him. He started himself on comfort measures at home but was found to be…

...

Let's start over.

There once was a guy who lived for a fair amount of time but was still pretty new at it, all things considered. Let's call him Danny; he looks like a Danny.

Like any guy with a couple letters after his name, Danny had a few issues with healthcare, which he fought each morning. And afternoon. And evening. And when he came home. It sounds like he lived a full(ish) life. We only really know that he was a DOCTOR and LIVES AT HOME. At least when he's not spending the majority of his waking hours in a hospital. He wrote a few things in the box that's supposed to summarize Danny's social life. He could have written more about it though, since his friends have kept him going through hell. He had a wife who is his emergency contact but who left him two days short of three months ago. There’s no box to check if they loved one another, but it’s probably a given that this theoretical box used to house a neat little checkmark inside. It used to at least. He didn't have any kids despite really wanting them, which hurt her and was one of the reasons the neat little checkmark went away. It really hurts when he looks at his chart under "Most Favorite Person in the World."

Unlike other physicians, Danny never got used to people being sick, despite his whole working-at-a-hospital thing. He saw sick people sometimes, sure (that was the price of being a doctor) but as far back as 20 days ago he never saw anything like this.

Twenty days ago he came to the hospital because he was scheduled to be the senior resident. He wasn't really sure he could do a good job at it, and the whole COVID plague really scared him. He got a whole room to himself to write his worries out and the history of each day. He barricaded himself in that room for hours and hours (when he wasn't responding to Rapids or Code Blues or talking to sick patients) because COVID took over his hospital. He prescribed the drugs he was told to by his bosses and listened to the President proclaim everything would be ok. He sure loathed seeing that orange loving prick on TV.

On his third day in the hospital, he tried to do the right thing and limit suffering and protect the people around him. He offered his patient CHOICE and told the truth, even if afterwards it made him think he was a terrible person.

Danny continued to prescribe medications and continued to . Sometimes he'd joke around with the very nice nurses and it helped him breathe better. Danny wasn't sure the medications were doing any good, but he was doing what smarter people well above him recommended. And he wasn't God, you know, despite his Messiah Complex.

One day Danny came home after three weeks of working 7AM-7PM Sunday through Friday. But he took off the last day he was scheduled to be in the clinic because he couldn't take it anymore. He needed a break. And that was ok. Because he did break.

Danny didn't do much of anything in particular. He watched Some Good News with John Krasinski which made him smile, he played Stellaris while listening to Conan O'Brien Needs a Friend which made him guffaw.

Danny finished off the last pieces of donated food to the Heroes of the Hospital he had smuggled home.

He still didn’t think he was a hero, but that's ok too.

Danny hung out with his friends and gave spontaneous piggyback rides and laughed a lot even if he sorta fell straight on his face and got a small laceration to his left eyebrow. Which made him laugh harder. It was his Least Favorite Eyebrow, anyway, so who cares?

Does it even matter?

Danny didn't have to answer anyone's questions and stopped chart stalking the people he was taking care of. Because he finally realized he did his time.

Danny wrote some more one afternoon and it made him happy.




Maybe there's a book I could finish about this disaster so it could make some sort of sense now that it's passed.

For me at least.

MadJackal / Danny
New York
April 13th, 2020

Homeless Friend
Jul 16, 2007

turd in my singlet posted:

:holymoley: i got my TUMPBUX



:prepop:

Jon Carbuncle
Sep 21, 2002


Soiled Meat

dex_sda posted:

LimburgLimbo's post had data that looks like it points towards there being more junk science in China, btw. I'm just saying, dismissing it outright without seeing stuff like that is just as junk.

not enough science about my junk tbh

dex_sda
Oct 11, 2012


Saint_Rukus posted:

not enough science about my junk tbh

science can only be done if there are any peers to review it

Lawman 0
Aug 17, 2010

https://twitter.com/GovInslee/status/1249777159339511808
https://twitter.com/GovMurphy/status/1249765507131232257
here comes the balkanization train toot toot!

Pryor on Fire
May 14, 2013

they don't know all alien abduction experiences can be explained by people thinking saving private ryan was a documentary

dex_sda posted:

science can only be done if there are any peers to review it

There is currently a massive reproducibility crisis in medicine that questions whether science was ever being done that well with the peer review.

Same problem with most of economics, it turns out.

dex_sda
Oct 11, 2012


NJ-NY-PA-CT-DE-RI sounds way worse than La-Li-Lu-Le-Lo

dex_sda
Oct 11, 2012


Pryor on Fire posted:

There is currently a massive reproducibility crisis in medicine that questions whether science was ever being done that well with the peer review.

Same problem with most of economics, it turns out.

yes this is what I was referring to with "most published research is false." Basically anything with an insufficient p value as a standard (aka. anything that isn't physics really) will skew towards false positives due to the way the process works, and further skew towards them because of pressure to publish.

It's still the best way of 'knowing' available to us, though.

D1E
Nov 25, 2001


MadJackal posted:

Day…


Day…




Day…



35M w/PMH of depression presents w/ a 19 day hx of going through hell. Found to be broken by COVID-19. Hospital course significant for bearing witness to many, many pts intubated and/or expired. Believes he brought comfort / humanity to some of his pts (results pending). Repeat rereading of his own story scared him. He started himself on comfort measures at home but was found to be…

...

Let's start over.

There once was a guy who lived for a fair amount of time but was still pretty new at it, all things considered. Let's call him Danny; he looks like a Danny.

Like any guy with a couple letters after his name, Danny had a few issues with healthcare, which he fought each morning. And afternoon. And evening. And when he came home. It sounds like he lived a full(ish) life. We only really know that he was a DOCTOR and LIVES AT HOME. At least when he's not spending the majority of his waking hours in a hospital. He wrote a few things in the box that's supposed to summarize Danny's social life. He could have written more about it though, since his friends have kept him going through hell. He had a wife who is his emergency contact but who left him two days short of three months ago. There’s no box to check if they loved one another, but it’s probably a given that this theoretical box used to house a neat little checkmark inside. It used to at least. He didn't have any kids despite really wanting them, which hurt her and was one of the reasons the neat little checkmark went away. It really hurts when he looks at his chart under "Most Favorite Person in the World."

Unlike other physicians, Danny never got used to people being sick, despite his whole working-at-a-hospital thing. He saw sick people sometimes, sure (that was the price of being a doctor) but as far back as 20 days ago he never saw anything like this.

Twenty days ago he came to the hospital because he was scheduled to be the senior resident. He wasn't really sure he could do a good job at it, and the whole COVID plague really scared him. He got a whole room to himself to write his worries out and the history of each day. He barricaded himself in that room for hours and hours (when he wasn't responding to Rapids or Code Blues or talking to sick patients) because COVID took over his hospital. He prescribed the drugs he was told to by his bosses and listened to the President proclaim everything would be ok. He sure loathed seeing that orange loving prick on TV.

On his third day in the hospital, he tried to do the right thing and limit suffering and protect the people around him. He offered his patient CHOICE and told the truth, even if afterwards it made him think he was a terrible person.

Danny continued to prescribe medications and continued to . Sometimes he'd joke around with the very nice nurses and it helped him breathe better. Danny wasn't sure the medications were doing any good, but he was doing what smarter people well above him recommended. And he wasn't God, you know, despite his Messiah Complex.

One day Danny came home after three weeks of working 7AM-7PM Sunday through Friday. But he took off the last day he was scheduled to be in the clinic because he couldn't take it anymore. He needed a break. And that was ok. Because he did break.

Danny didn't do much of anything in particular. He watched Some Good News with John Krasinski which made him smile, he played Stellaris while listening to Conan O'Brien Needs a Friend which made him guffaw.

Danny finished off the last pieces of donated food to the Heroes of the Hospital he had smuggled home.

He still didn’t think he was a hero, but that's ok too.

Danny hung out with his friends and gave spontaneous piggyback rides and laughed a lot even if he sorta fell straight on his face and got a small laceration to his left eyebrow. Which made him laugh harder. It was his Least Favorite Eyebrow, anyway, so who cares?

Does it even matter?

Danny didn't have to answer anyone's questions and stopped chart stalking the people he was taking care of. Because he finally realized he did his time.

Danny wrote some more one afternoon and it made him happy.




Maybe there's a book I could finish about this disaster so it could make some sort of sense now that it's passed.

For me at least.

MadJackal / Danny
New York
April 13th, 2020

Are you just on vacation, or are you done DONE?

I don't like finality of this one. Are you OK?

UnknownTarget
Sep 5, 2019


Wonder why MA/ME/NH aren't included.

The Alpha Centauri
Feb 15, 2019

omg yes
yes

yes
yes

Chunky Salsa
Aug 31, 2016

"Isn't that right, Zach?"

quote:

Maybe there's a book I could finish about this disaster so it could make some sort of sense now that it's passed.

For me at least.

It sounds (to me) like you really need some time to process and write some things out, which are not bad impulses

eonwe
Aug 11, 2008



Lipstick Apathy

legit should be the cspam background

Amp
Sep 10, 2010

:11tea::bubblewoop::agesilaus::megaman::yoshi::squawk::supaburn::iit::spooky::axe::honked::shroom::smugdog::sg::pkmnwhy::parrot::screamy::tubular::corsair::sanix::yeeclaw::hayter::flip::redflag:

I wonder if Charlie Baker didn't get an invite or didn't want to be part of this?

My Gimmick Name
Sep 11, 2004



The Alpha Centauri posted:

omg yes
yes

yes
yes

Google Butt
Oct 4, 2005

Xenology is an unnatural mixture of science fiction and formal logic. At its core is a flawed assumption...

that an alien race would be psychologically human.

WHERE THE gently caress IS MY MONEY DAWG

MadJackal
Apr 30, 2004

D1E posted:

Are you just on vacation, or are you done DONE?

I don't like finality of this one. Are you OK?

Just on vacation, not out of medicine.

Not signing up voluntarily to go back in.

mod sassinator
Dec 13, 2006
I came here to Kick Ass and Chew Bubblegum,
and I'm All out of Ass

seating cum

gregday
May 23, 2003

https://twitter.com/jbendery/status/1249775176532865026

Fellatio del Toro
Mar 21, 2009


looking forward to another arrest warrant

Mr Hootington
Jul 24, 2008
Probation
Can't post for 30 hours!

Previews always spoil the movie.:sigh:

Lpzie
Nov 20, 2006

guys guys, we've peaked. don't worry, we peaked! re-open EVERYTHING!!!

MorrisBae
Jan 18, 2020

by Athanatos

MadJackal posted:


MadJackal / Danny
New York
April 13th, 2020

You alright?

Admiral Ray
May 17, 2014

Proud Musk and Dogecoin fanboy

lol owned libs

Steiv
Oct 16, 2005

Sweet Jesus it's the fabled Mardi Gras Cat-bird!

MadJackal posted:

Day…


Day…




Day…




I know many have already said this, but I want to thank you for writing this stuff out; it's been very sobering to get a front-line account, and I really hope it's been at least a little bit cathartic for you. We're all in your corner, bud.

MadJackal
Apr 30, 2004

MorrisBae posted:

You alright?

I'm fine, really. A couple days ago when this all hit me I was emphatically not ok, but I've made the healthy decision to take my scheduled vacation and not let myself be consumed by medicine for the next twelve days.

Did I not finish with a positive ending here? It's why I used "laughed" like 4 times.

Penisaurus Sex
Feb 3, 2009

asdfghjklpoiuyt

UnknownTarget posted:

Wonder why MA/ME/NH aren't included.

They’re destined to be reclaimed and absorbed into Greater Vermont anyway.

Grizzled Patriarch
Mar 27, 2014

These dentures won't stop me from tearing out jugulars in Thunderdome.



FAUXTON posted:

Yeah it's probably way the hell different now but when I was growing up, the gulf coast armpit of FL still had a patch of largely unmanaged woods behind practically everyone's house, or at the end of the block. Not any huge forest reserve or anything but enough room to gently caress around with paintballs and not risk putting holes in anyone's patio screens. Just walking around with your friends in the woods was a thing, you'd find some old bottle on the ground and throw it at a tree until it broke or find and laugh at forest porn, etc.

I mean I don't want to get all :corsair: but between sprawl and the insipid paralytic lure of social media it kinda sucks if a lot of kids these days don't have a familiarity of being outside without close shelter (e.g. having to walk as far back out as you came in) because any legitimate mass movement is going to have unrest and stuff where you can't just gently caress off home and pick it up tomorrow lest the cops block you out overnight.

forest porn is one of the funniest pre-internet shared experiences and it seems to be almost exclusively an american thing

SKULL.GIF
Jan 20, 2017



Agrajag
Jan 21, 2006

gat dang thats hot

dex_sda posted:

NJ-NY-PA-CT-DE-RI sounds way worse than La-Li-Lu-Le-Lo

nej-ni-pa-sit-de-ri

Spinz
Jan 7, 2020

I ordered luscious new gemstones from India and made new earrings for my SA mart thread

Remember my earrings and art are much better than my posting

New stuff starts towards end of page 3 of the thread

mastershakeman posted:

man thats weird, i spent a huge portion of my life just wandering around neighbors' forests and old railroad tracks and poo poo

It was the best time of my life, that part of my childhood. For me it was a lightly forested huge hillside and giant pond- bugs and animals and rocks and plants

zetamind2000
Nov 6, 2007

I'm an alien.


America Part 2 looking pretty good

Admiral Ray
May 17, 2014

Proud Musk and Dogecoin fanboy

Take your time off man, this poo poo isn't ending anytime soon and emergency level responses cannot be sustained.

mastershakeman
Oct 28, 2008

by vyelkin

dex_sda posted:

not just the weekend, easter loving weekend lol

random deaths that dont have a covid positive test are going to hit an all time high in about 3 weeks, its gonna be great

SKULL.GIF
Jan 20, 2017


So we have the West Coast and New England (sans MA and ME...) deciding to act in union instead of taking direction from the federal government

The critical thing to watch is if the Great Lakes (MN WI IL IN MI OH) decide to pull the same trick. If we get that then that's the flag to start the race

Agrajag
Jan 21, 2006

gat dang thats hot

nobody could have seen this coming...............................................................

Fuckt Tupp
Apr 19, 2007

Science
https://twitter.com/clastowka/status/1249783152459026432

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Chris James 2
Aug 9, 2012


https://twitter.com/michpoligal/status/1249781567603556352?s=19

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