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McSpanky posted:"When we came up against subspace interference that disabled energy weapons, we spent months and hundreds of man-hours developing a compact magnetic accelerator for an inert composite-metallic projectile, targeted by the most sophisticated tactical assistance programs ever developed and fitted with state-of-the-art inertial dampers to negate recoil by 47%. ftfy
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SlothfulCobra posted:The Klingons as we see them in TNG have kinda gone through a societal collapse since the days of TOS, and their politics now revolve around aristocracy and dueling, so everybody with any rank is busy fighting or boasting. I think TOS portrays Klingons as internally meritocratic so that bureaucrats could just be part of their society. Makes me wonder if its the same situation with Meiji Japan - where Samurai were frequently not actually warriors, but did the accounting and legal bullshit and other stuff, since the shogunate aggressively kept everyone on the verge of bankrupty meaning that if you were an employed samurai it was because you had skills that had nothing to do with swords. So maybe many of these Klingon "warriors" employed by a house have secondary tasks? McSpanky posted:"When we came up against subspace interference that disabled energy weapons, we spent months and hundreds of man-hours developing a compact magnetic accelerator for an inert composite-metallic projectile, targeted by the most sophisticated tactical assistance programs ever developed and fitted with state-of-the-art inertial dampers to negate recoil by 97%. Qapla' batlh je.
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# ? Jun 15, 2020 12:44 |
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Worf is perhaps a poor person to model Klingon behavior on, seeing as he has more of a weeabo's approach to Klingon life, but is it not possible that, like him, Klingons take the art of combat, and everything related to being a warrior quite seriously? While science and law might not might not make you a warrior we have examples of Klingons doing pretty well even in these non-related fields, so I don't see why warship operations should be dumbed down any.
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# ? Jun 15, 2020 14:04 |
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They are warriors and Quickbooks is their enemy.
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# ? Jun 15, 2020 15:51 |
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I thought TOS Klingons were originally basically Roddenberry's take on Korean-war era Chinese or something, due to terrible pronunciation of "CHING-ons" in some of the early poo poo and their obvious yellow face makeup and mustaches. Early Romulans were supposed to be Soviets, as shown by the obvious submarine movie plot that is Balance of Terror.
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# ? Jun 15, 2020 16:16 |
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I always thought it was the reverse The main reason being that the Romulans have not had any outside contact in a long time, and the Chinese did not really have official contact with the US until Nixon
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# ? Jun 15, 2020 16:21 |
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I think they're just Space Mongols.
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# ? Jun 15, 2020 16:28 |
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Neither of them is a straight up allegorical replacement for Russia nor for China. It would be more accurate to say that they provide a mirror of Russia or China’s contemporary geopolitical roles by providing aggressive, authoritarian nationalist antagonism to our pluralist and freedom-loving heroes, and refer to various historical authoritarian empires (the Soviets are actually cited in the show for any cheap seat who didn’t get it, but the big reference for the Romulans is obviously Rome) to inform this image.
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# ? Jun 15, 2020 16:31 |
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The Klingons mainly became Russia in Star Trek 6, but until then they seemed more Mongolian or generally "eastern" I guess.
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# ? Jun 15, 2020 18:57 |
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Worf is a Klingon fundamentalist, constantly opining for some older, mythical age where Klingons were REAL Klingons. Part of that is because he learned everything about Klingon culture from afar and he used "klingon instincts" as an excuse for his personal aggression issues, but I think also a lot about TNG klingons was established in that first klingon episode where a couple of klingon fundamentalists attempt to hijack the enterprise but stick to some abstruse rules of honor while doing so. I think the Kahless cloners have a similar line of thought, they hate political complexity and would rather klingons make their decisions based on faith rather than pragmatism. When we see "proper" klingons, they're a whole lot more chill about the formality of aggression, and it's more posturing to maintain dominance. I feel like they're more in the habit of constantly threatening to duel than they are to actually risk their own life fighting over something. They also party a bunch while Worf is prone to sulking about dishonor and decadence. And probably the writers themselves are of multiple minds about klingons, because some of them want to treat klingons as having complex motivations and others want to just go all in on the purebred spartan warrior race angle.
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jeeves posted:I thought TOS Klingons were originally basically Roddenberry's take on Korean-war era Chinese or something, due to terrible pronunciation of "CHING-ons" in some of the early poo poo and their obvious yellow face makeup and mustaches. Balance of Terror is the same plot as this submarine movie with German and American subs https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Enemy_Below
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SlothfulCobra posted:Worf is a Klingon fundamentalist, constantly opining for some older, mythical age where Klingons were REAL Klingons. Part of that is because he learned everything about Klingon culture from afar and he used "klingon instincts" as an excuse for his personal aggression issues, but I think also a lot about TNG klingons was established in that first klingon episode where a couple of klingon fundamentalists attempt to hijack the enterprise but stick to some abstruse rules of honor while doing so. I think the Kahless cloners have a similar line of thought, they hate political complexity and would rather klingons make their decisions based on faith rather than pragmatism. The episode where Worf is trying to convince the Klingons to have a civil war properly as both sides drink and party and wrestle after each day on a neutral ground is great comedy. Tony Todd should've gotten an emmy.
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TheDiceMustRoll posted:The episode where Worf is trying to convince the Klingons to have a civil war properly as both sides drink and party and wrestle after each day on a neutral ground is great comedy. Tony Todd should've gotten an emmy. How in the flying ferengi gently caress did I only just now realise that was Tony Todd?! Jesus Christ...
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# ? Jun 16, 2020 09:50 |
Dog_Meat posted:How in the flying ferengi gently caress did I only just now realise that was Tony Todd?! Jesus Christ... I didn't catch him in the Orville. People aren't easy to recognize in a shitload of makeup.
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# ? Jun 16, 2020 10:30 |
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He's also Old Jake Sisko in The Visitor. Tony Todd owns
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# ? Jun 16, 2020 10:45 |
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TheDiceMustRoll posted:I didn't catch him in the Orville. People aren't easy to recognize in a shitload of makeup. Oh for... <face blindness intensifies>
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# ? Jun 16, 2020 11:41 |
Dog_Meat posted:Oh for...
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# ? Jun 16, 2020 12:28 |
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Laterite posted:Tony Todd owns
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# ? Jun 16, 2020 12:29 |
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T-own-y Todd
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# ? Jun 16, 2020 13:06 |
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I want an episode of amnesiac Tony Todd having just got his law degree and clerking for Ron Canada
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# ? Jun 16, 2020 13:09 |
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I'm more of a TOS
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# ? Jun 16, 2020 18:49 |
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Imzadi
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# ? Jun 16, 2020 18:57 |
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adhuin posted:I'm more of a TOS https://twitter.com/WilliamShatner/status/1272705262806355968
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# ? Jun 16, 2020 19:02 |
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I find that especially creepy since his daughter runs that account
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# ? Jun 16, 2020 19:28 |
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TheDiceMustRoll posted:Come on man, there aren't even any closeups of him in the Orville episode, it's a wide shot from 10 feet away and he just sits there and goes "women bad" and "we'll quit the federation if women aren't considered bad." If you can't recognize his voice then you can't recognize his most distinctive trait. He's also in Half-Life Alyx.
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Arglebargle III posted:If you can't recognize his voice then you can't recognize his most distinctive trait. He's also in Half-Life Alyx. I'm looking forward to playing that when they ship my index in 2089.
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# ? Jun 16, 2020 20:06 |
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I saw this and had no choice but to get it:
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# ? Jun 16, 2020 23:26 |
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Me looking at that image of the wrong enterprise. https://youtu.be/xzfRBl1m4Jw
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# ? Jun 16, 2020 23:54 |
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Ugh, microbrewerys are too in love with the taste of hops. Not everything has to be an IPA! Anyway,
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# ? Jun 17, 2020 00:55 |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8MkYdtU61Y
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# ? Jun 17, 2020 02:14 |
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Good stuff, but left out my favorite little bit of the Picard theme. It's the part where it dives from G to A with a little flourish. It's hard to describe... one sec. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mI90Z-PWXUk About :31-:33 in this video. It makes my brain tingle. Brawnfire fucked around with this message at 02:39 on Jun 17, 2020 |
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Chickened out on Faith of the Heart. (But seriously, that's really neat! Thanks for sharing.)
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Brawnfire posted:Good stuff, but left out my favorite little bit of the Picard theme. I hear it e: actually considering how the season itself turned out I'd say the Picard theme song was one of the best parts of the show Snow Cone Capone fucked around with this message at 04:52 on Jun 17, 2020 |
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Man “The Dauphin” is a really mixed episode. It’s generally better than the synopsis would make me think, but Wesley turning Salia away once he’s seen one of her other forms is really gross. I’m not sure if the ending makes me feel better about it or not.
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Yeah real mixed bag of an ep
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This "chess room" is pretty much only used for sex, and it connects both of their bathrooms together. I wish I was kidding. And the fanfiction story is of course extremely and objectively terrible, so this guy loses some cred. Drone fucked around with this message at 09:01 on Jun 17, 2020 |
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Arivia posted:Man “The Dauphin” is a really mixed episode. It’s generally better than the synopsis would make me think, but Wesley turning Salia away once he’s seen one of her other forms is really gross. I’m not sure if the ending makes me feel better about it or not. I don't think Wesley was supposed to be the good guy there. It would have been more positive for him to say "I accept you no matter what!" but his reaction as a teenager who might not know better was realistic, especially for the time. It also made you think and realize it was a bad reaction, which was the point.
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# ? Jun 17, 2020 13:26 |
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How come on the camel toe planet Wesley got in trouble for falling on the flowers but the dipshit who threw a ball directly at the flowers in the forbidden grass zone didn't face any consequences whatsoever. If Wesley had heard them yelling for him to stop and done so that guy would be loving dead. Federation wouldn't have intervened. His ball would have hit those flowers directly
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Maybe it wasn't a violation for your ball to go there. You're just supposed to wait for the authorized ball retrieval guy to come get it or something.
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