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PerniciousKnid posted:It's also the worst episode because it reveals that it never matters what happens in any episode, because actually everything happens and we're just watching one particular random combination of outcomes. I've got some bad news for you about the nature of the universe (maybe).
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CPColin posted:I've got some bad news for you about the nature of the universe (maybe). I don't care if my own life lacks dramatic tension.
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Gully Foyle posted:Yeah, the way the show handles Quark is pretty off-putting sometimes. There are multiple times its either directly stated (as in Profit and Lace) or implied that he routinely pressures or forces his female employees into sex, and it's never treated with more than a 'Hmmph' from Odo or whatever, and it's all forgotten by the next time. It would be interesting in an abstract way to track who were the main writers for the episodes where Quark coerces it from people.
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Jun 22, 2020 00:13
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Nessus posted:The oomox poo poo is hosed up. I suspect they were trying to aim for a "this is super sexy to Ferengi but meaningless to most species" thing, but, you know, you're still coercing someone into giving you sexual satisfaction. It's maybe comparable to a foot fetish, like if Quark convinced all his dabo girls to let him massage their feet. It's non-sexual to most people, but obvs the Ferengi get off to it. Thinking about it that way it's kinda hosed up/gross.
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Mike the TV posted:It's maybe comparable to a foot fetish, like if Quark convinced all his dabo girls to let him massage their feet. It's non-sexual to most people, but obvs the Ferengi get off to it. Thinking about it that way it's kinda hosed up/gross. Sounds like Matt Groening
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Gully Foyle posted:Future Imperfect. Such a good half-episode before the double-twist kind of fizzles it out. This would probably be in the top tier of episodes if it really was a Romulan plot all along. Speaking of mindfuck episodes the amnesia one (Tabula Rasa?) is pretty good for that too. There's just this new guy on the bridge and with everything going on you think maybe this guy is just a random crewman but then (iirc) the computer says he's first officer and you're like what the gently caress? Of course it never really was a question because TNG just didn't do random crewmen in speaking roles but that's a problem with a lot of episodic shows.
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Humerus posted:This would probably be in the top tier of episodes if it really was a Romulan plot all along. Because TNG has the worst titles this one was called "Conundrum", something that could apply to basically any episode of any show. And yeah, it was cool how they did that. They managed to keep you going just long enough before they had to really kick that character's part of the plot into gear. And it wasn't totally weird to have a random person on the bridge because they usually do it at least a little.
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Sir Lemming posted:Because TNG has the worst titles this one was called "Conundrum", something that could apply to basically any episode of any show. And yeah, it was cool how they did that. They managed to keep you going just long enough before they had to really kick that character's part of the plot into gear. And it wasn't totally weird to have a random person on the bridge because they usually do it at least a little. I've brought shame upon my house. I think the Buffy amnesia episode was called Tabla Rasa maybe?
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Literally every show has had an episode called Tabla Rasa.
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CPColin posted:I've got some bad news for you about the nature of the universe (maybe). The universe is a spheroid region 705 meters in diameter. 
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Timeless Appeal posted:Maaaaan... DS9 is very good and surprisingly progressive (Dax essentially being a trans pansexual character; Lots of criminal justice critiques), but it's really weird that Sisko has sex with someone under false pretenses which the show itself calls out as rape and we straight up skipped the episode when Quark becomes a lady and didn't recall it started with Quark trying to pressure an employee into sex. There's also the whole thing with the Prophets and Sisko's mother that never really gets addressed.
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More TOS- By Any Other Name- This episode has some promise at the beginning but it never really goes anywhere. There is tension at the beginning when the Kelvans take over, but other than killing the one Yeoman they never seem especially threatening. Episode ends very abruptly with Kirk convincing the Kelvan leader to just go back to the planet from the beginning and live there. There’s a long sequence where Scotty drinks one of the Kelvans under the table but it’s just for comic relief. I didn’t realize until now that one specific joke in this episode is referenced in the TNG episode ‘Relics’.
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It's interesting how the more advanced LCARS panels on Voyager using CRT screens now look cheaper than the purely static ones that were more common on TNG. The curve of the screens and the difference between the screens showing animated content and the backlit static panels really stand out. I'd love to see a set like TNG bridge or engineering built with modern tech, you could do that entire Engineering master display using an 80" flatscreen. Senor Tron fucked around with this message at 07:40 on Jun 22, 2020 |
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I always liked the bits in TNG when they did have dynamic content on the big panels, because doing it with FX instead of inset CRTs means they could do it properly and do stuff like just throw up a fullscreen image instead of just all peering down at a tiny little section of the screen. Of course with Voyager later on they got around it by just introducing the Astrometrics lab and using that viewer whenever they needed to look at anything that wasn't for the main viewscreen. MikeJF fucked around with this message at 07:39 on Jun 22, 2020 |
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feedmyleg posted:Literally every show has had an episode called Tabla Rasa. Tabula Rasa.  It means "clean slate."
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Senor Tron posted:It's interesting how the more advanced LCARS panels on Voyager using CRT screens now look cheaper than the purely static ones that were more common on TNG. The curve of the screens and the difference between the screens showing animated content and the backlit static panels really stand out. Nothing will ever look as bad as the TNG movies that used the early 2000s LCDs for LCARS panels though. I'll take the CRT ones over that any day. At least when Enterprise did it, it kinda works as a retro thing now.
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Nullsmack posted:Nothing will ever look as bad as the TNG movies that used the early 2000s LCDs for LCARS panels though. I'll take the CRT ones over that any day. Don't forget Nemesis when they were like 'gently caress it, just print some stickers and put them around the LCD'  there's even, like, closeups of people tapping the sticker 'buttons', if i recall. Like, I think they had pasted-on bits like that in the other movies but it was always background, but in nemesis they didn't bother to disguise them or try to make it look natural. Nemesis was just  from everyone involved.
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8one6 posted:Star Trek Voyager, season 2, episode 14 "Alliances" I had to look this up and this is the best quality video I can find on Youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6uM2aot_vl8 wtf? It's not on the Netflix versions or in my DVDs but it is in the Amazon Prime version. Super weird.
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Nullsmack posted:I had to look this up and this is the best quality video I can find on Youtube that is so horrible I watched "Contagion" last night, that was a pretty good episode. Lots of fun action. I appreciated Toronto City Hall as a mysterious alien planet.
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Nullsmack posted:I had to look this up and this is the best quality video I can find on Youtube
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Humerus posted:I've brought shame upon my house. I think the Buffy amnesia episode was called Tabla Rasa maybe? That was the best Buffy episode
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Nullsmack posted:I had to look this up and this is the best quality video I can find on Youtube It sounds like the fanfare from a Super Mario Party game.
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feedmyleg posted:Literally every show has had an episode called Tabla Rasa.  Honestly mindblowing Trek never has.
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Are you saying that a fan webseries doesn't count??
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Brawnfire posted:That was the best Buffy episode Willow was gaslighting/manipulating her gf (really bad sexual assault implications here) and did it so hard she ended up gaslighting everyone The best Buffy episode is Once More With Feeling or the one with Evil Xander except he was actually just competent Xander which was a funny ending
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MikeJF posted:Don't forget Nemesis when they were like 'gently caress it, just print some stickers and put them around the LCD' Nemesis also brought us the craptastic tricorder that was literally just a shell around a Palm Pilot.  
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omg, you can see the edge of the stickers in the flip up part. also the scan is sideways on the screen...
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VOY S3 e2 Flashback This isn't a bad episode and isn't the worst idea for a franchise anniversary tribute, but compared to Trials and Tribblations that came out from DS9 its really kind of sad.
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Gully Foyle posted:Yeah, the way the show handles Quark is pretty off-putting sometimes. There are multiple times its either directly stated (as in Profit and Lace) or implied that he routinely pressures or forces his female employees into sex, and it's never treated with more than a 'Hmmph' from Odo or whatever, and it's all forgotten by the next time. Agreed. My guilty tng pleasure is frame of mind.
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Humerus posted:Willow was gaslighting/manipulating her gf (really bad sexual assault implications here) and did it so hard she ended up gaslighting everyone Musical episodes enjoy a special category adjacent to and above "best episode". Buffy happens to have a particularly high-quality example.
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Brawnfire posted:Musical episodes enjoy a special category adjacent to and above "best episode". Buffy happens to have a particularly high-quality example. Also in that category: muppet episodes. (Okay, really just the angel one) MikeJF fucked around with this message at 18:54 on Jun 22, 2020 |
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Nullsmack posted:omg, you can see the edge of the stickers in the flip up part. I don't think anybody predicted that auto-flip would be a feature in all devices in the future.
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Vreenak: Well, Benjamin, I made it- despite your directions. Captain Sisko: Ah. Senator Vreenak. Welcome. - I hope you're prepared for an unforgettable negotiation Vreenak: Yeah. Captain Sisko: Oh, egads! My evidence is ruined. But what if I were to fabricate evidence of a Dominion attack and disguise it as legitimate intelligence? Delightfully devilish, Benjamin. Singers: Ah- Emissary with his crazy explanations The senator's gonna need his meditation When he hears Emissary's lame exaggerations There'll be trouble in town tonight! Vreenak: Benjamin! Captain Sisko: Senator, I was just- uh, just sparring with Grathon Tolar. Isometric exercise. Care to join me? Vreenak: Why are there simulated images coming out of your holodeck, Benjamin? Captain Sisko: Uh- Oh. That isn't a simulation. It's leaked plans. The leak is from the Dominion plans we're viewing. Mmm. Leaked plans (5 minutes later) Whew. Senator, I hope you're ready for some secure data Vreenak: I thought we were viewing leaked plans Captain Sisko: D'oh, no. I said steamed Cardassians. That's what I call this secure data rod. Vreenak: You call this secure data rod steamed Cardassians? Captain Sisko: Yes. It's a regional dialect. Vreenak: Uh-huh. Uh, what region? Captain Sisko: Uh, Xindi. Vreenak: Really. Well, I was ambassador to reptilian Xindi planet, and I've never heard anyone use the phrase "steamed Cardassians." Captain Sisko: Oh, not on reptilian Xindi planet. No. It's an avian xindi expression. Vreenak: I see. You know, these Cardassians are quite similar to the characters in the popular Cardassia prime holosuite program Captain Sisko: Oh, no. Certified Dominion officers. Old family rivalry. Vreenak: For steamed Cardassians. Captain Sisko: Yes. Vreenak: Yes. And you call them steamed Cardassians despite the fact that they are obviously largely in agreement with minor petty bickering Captain Sisko: Ye- You know, the- One thing I should- - Excuse me for one second. Vreenak: Of course. Captain Sisko: (yawn) Oh well, that was wonderful. A good time was had by all. I'm pooped. Vreenak: Yes. I should be- Good Lord! What is happening in there? Captain Sisko: Talosian illusion Vreenak: Uh- Talosian illusion of a Cardassian spy tampering with my shuttle, at this time of year at this time of day in this part of the quadrant, localized entirely within your docking bay? Captain Sisko: Yes. Vreenak: May I see it? Captain Sisko: No. Dax: Benjamin! There's a bomb detected in shuttle bay four! Captain Sisko: No, old man. It's just a Talosian illusion. Vreenak: Well, Benjamin, you are an odd fellow but I must say, ITS A FAAAAAAKE. Dax: Help! Help!
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Bahahaha! This contest is over! Give that man the 10,000 quatloos!
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I forgot that Catspaw a)existed and b)probably only existed as a way for Roddenberry to hawk replicas of the little metal Enterprise the witch has. Also  at the wig they put Koenig in for this one
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MikeJF posted:Don't forget Nemesis when they were like 'gently caress it, just print some stickers and put them around the LCD' 
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John Wick of Dogs posted:Vreenak: Well, Benjamin, I made it- despite your directions. Well, my avatar pretty much sums up my reaction to reading this.
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Nullsmack posted:I had to look this up and this is the best quality video I can find on Youtube That's amazing. I want sound effects like that in every episode of every Trek. Applause when a guest star enters a room, audience groans whenever Data tells a joke, Kramer entering a room hooting and hollering whenever someone says "Captain on the bridge".
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JakeP posted:
It has been a pleasure to post with all of you even when it was white-noise posting, and if this place keeps on existing in some form, I hope we all will stay in touch. I also hope that Discovery gets good and Lower Decks isn't bad. This link is for a certain image of long renown which is not safe for viewing or posting at work. It has been made readily available by Klingon tradition. May it bring glory to you and your house.  https://i.imgur.com/1BufxSP.jpghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqe-mr_zBdg
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