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Arglebargle III posted:The Expanse did a pretty good job of depicting ships lurking with the menace at very long range. With modern production values and with the end result of the ship completely coming to pieces. Zero of the SFX shots in that battle were really possible in 1989, especially on a TV budget. Ohh, here's a new enemy that the federation has never encountered before but we aren't going to show them in the same frame. Here's a cube thing with absolutely zero way for the audience to determine how big it is compared to our heroes. Also, it's not like the Expanse hasn't done it the other way either. Compare that to "Battle of Thoth Station" which was at even closer range than this. bull3964 fucked around with this message at 21:58 on Jul 9, 2020 |
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I feel like long-range combat and ship interactions on a TV show would work if it focuses on the same factions week after week and the scope of the story is limited. But if your heroes are going to be encountering new ships and races every episode or more, the visual shorthand of just seeing two ships next to one another is probably worth the suspension of disbelief in order to cut to the heart of the story.
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The_Doctor posted:One of my favourite non-trek bridge designs is this concept for the Nostromo in Alien by Ron Cobb. It’s nicely asymmetrical and multi-level, and I love that windowed section. Yeah, this really does it for me. Man, I love sci fi concept art so much. When it's good it can be so evocative, often more than the finished product
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Pretty much nothing involving ships seeing each other in Trek makes sense beyond the need for the audience to instantly get what's going on. [The Enterprise is travelling at warp six] Spock: A vessel is approaching at warp seven, directly ahead. Kirk: On screen. [A ship appears on screen to be pootling towards the Enterprise at about 35mph, despite its closing velocity being 559 times the speed of light]
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I don’t care how much praise this thread lavishes on that giant open office TNG bridge concept, I just can’t stand it and I’m so glad it never made it to production. It’s hideous as gently caress, it looks like the waiting room of a doctor’s office, and the conference table is some pure 80’s nonsense that would have instantly dated the show. It’s all the worst excesses of early-70s sci-fi concepts that somehow survived to 1986/87. It’s like a rejected set design from loving Logan’s Run.
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Big Mean Jerk posted:it looks like the waiting room of a doctor’s office, pretty TNG tbh
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The_Doctor posted:That original TNG two-level bridge concept was exactly that. Nice open plan, vertical space, etc. Plus that massive window No offense but this would have been awful, TNG already looks like a loving hotel mariott
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Pick posted:No offense but this would have been awful, TNG already looks like a loving hotel mariott The Love Boat: The Next Generation
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Intel&Sebastian posted:Senator Vreenak: Well, Sisko, I made it- despite your directions. I posted literally this in the other thread a couple weeks ago
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John Wick of Dogs posted:I posted literally this in the other thread a couple weeks ago lmfao what the link? I totally might have memory holed it, if so sorry
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McSpanky posted:The Love Boat: The Next Generation they did that. frasier was in it
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Big Mean Jerk posted:I don’t care how much praise this thread lavishes on that giant open office TNG bridge concept, I just can’t stand it and I’m so glad it never made it to production. It’s hideous as gently caress, it looks like the waiting room of a doctor’s office, and the conference table is some pure 80’s nonsense that would have instantly dated the show. It’s all the worst excesses of early-70s sci-fi concepts that somehow survived to 1986/87. It’s like a rejected set design from loving Logan’s Run. Like what would be more interesting is if for things like Picard they extrapolated out from what are the current trends in interior design etc. Like if there was a living wall and they made a point that periodically it would be the night shift and the bridge's lights would be substantially dimmer.
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Intel&Sebastian posted:lmfao what the I was wrong it wasn't there other thread it was this thread lol. A little bit different though https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3781992&pagenumber=1851&perpage=40#post505901117 John Wick of Dogs fucked around with this message at 02:09 on Jul 10, 2020 |
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Nessus posted:periodically it would be the night shift and the bridge's lights would be substantially dimmer. It would have been interesting (still would with Strange New Worlds) to see them really embrace the idea of different shifts. Most of the time in the series all the senior crew are on shift at the same time apart from when it suits the story to have one of them doing an overnight shift. Would really like to see a depiction of different shifts where there are different characters and dynamics.
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I’d stretch over a chair with her, if you know what I mean.
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Senor Tron posted:It would have been interesting (still would with Strange New Worlds) to see them really embrace the idea of different shifts. Most of the time in the series all the senior crew are on shift at the same time apart from when it suits the story to have one of them doing an overnight shift. Would really like to see a depiction of different shifts where there are different characters and dynamics. It's TNG that does the "dim the lights on the bridge when night shift starts" thing right? It's a tiny touch but I always liked it.
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Senor Tron posted:It would have been interesting (still would with Strange New Worlds) to see them really embrace the idea of different shifts. Most of the time in the series all the senior crew are on shift at the same time apart from when it suits the story to have one of them doing an overnight shift. Would really like to see a depiction of different shifts where there are different characters and dynamics. Robot Chicken is way ahead of you: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4ApQrbhQp8
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Senor Tron posted:It would have been interesting (still would with Strange New Worlds) to see them really embrace the idea of different shifts. Most of the time in the series all the senior crew are on shift at the same time apart from when it suits the story to have one of them doing an overnight shift. Would really like to see a depiction of different shifts where there are different characters and dynamics.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5OJx4VB9iQg They're all so good.
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I just hit season 3 of Enterprise, and the new theme. It's still bad. Adding a jaunty guitar riff to it isn't gonna save this boring country song. Even if it is from pre 9/11 when country was still good. E: I've been trying to watch everything in airing order (which mostly hasn't mattered since Voyager ended) which means that Insurrection is next. I am uh. Not looking forward to it based on what this thread has said. I just hope Hulu has it so I don't have to try and pay money to see it. curiousTerminal fucked around with this message at 07:37 on Jul 10, 2020 |
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Snow Cone Capone posted:It's TNG that does the "dim the lights on the bridge when night shift starts" thing right? It's a tiny touch but I always liked it. Doesn't make any sense though, because it's not like you want the crew on the bridge to be acting any differently during night than during the day.
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Senor Tron posted:Doesn't make any sense though, because it's not like you want the crew on the bridge to be acting any differently during night than during the day. Probably has more to do with maintaining a circadian rythym so everybody on the ship knows when it's "nighttime" and "daytime".
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Sash! posted:So....Ikea? Now I'm picturing furniture designs optimized for standard food box-sized replications, so everything comes as an endless pile of 2-foot pieces that you snap together like puzzle pieces, and then at the end you push a button and all the self-sealing stem bolts fuse together and turn it into a single solid object. Timeless Appeal posted:Quick question partially because I'm doing a STA campaign and have never been clear on this. When ships are battling and confronting each other, generally how close are they actually? In visuals they're always extremely close, but the dialogue generally leans much more towards 10,000 km to 100,000 km distances, even in TOS. Gonz posted:Probably has more to do with maintaining a circadian rythym so everybody on the ship knows when it's "nighttime" and "daytime". Similarly, design inspired by current trends would probably have fake environment holo-windows in all the cabins with day/night cycles synced to the ship's clock, so you can wake up with a Paris sunrise or whatever, rather than the blank walls for interior cabins and space windows only for exterior cabins.
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Roadie posted:Similarly, design inspired by current trends would probably have fake environment holo-windows in all the cabins with day/night cycles synced to the ship's clock, so you can wake up with a Paris sunrise or whatever, rather than the blank walls for interior cabins and space windows only for exterior cabins. "Current health assessments recommend no more than two hours exposure to fictional holoenvironments per day to prevent reality dissociation syndrome"
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Knowing the Enterprise holodeck circuits, the holograms would become sentient and attempt to depressurize the ship.
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Man, the We Are Borg moment in Picard reminds me of one of the best bits of Torchwood except where the Torchwood bit was actually intimidating and set the tone the Borg were immediately neutered out of the episode.
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Dimmed lights on the bridge look great. Every time Voyager went to red alert, and the lights dipped, it all looked much better.
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To a degree, but the permadarkness of the bridges on Discovery doesn't quite have the same effect.
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See, to me, this isn’t dark at all. It’s not TNG bright, but it’s hardly dark.
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curiousTerminal posted:E: I've been trying to watch everything in airing order (which mostly hasn't mattered since Voyager ended) which means that Insurrection is next. I am uh. Not looking forward to it based on what this thread has said. I just hope Hulu has it so I don't have to try and pay money to see it. If you expect it to be horrible, you'll probably find it to be totally fine. It's fine. It's just nothing special.
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MikeJF posted:There were a few iterations on that: I remember a webcomic drew one: I'm the skant on the far right. John Wick of Dogs posted:I was wrong it wasn't there other thread it was this thread lol. A little bit different though They're both really excellent.
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The_Doctor posted:See, to me, this isn’t dark at all. It’s not TNG bright, but it’s hardly dark. It's normally lit in season 2, but was generally a fair bit darker in season 1 while Lorca was still in command.
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God the "Terrans can't stand bright light" thing was so fuckin' dumb.
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Drone posted:God the "Terrans can't stand bright light" thing was so fuckin' dumb. Everytime someone wants to blame Fuller for every one of Discovery's issues I think of things like that they could of easily changed but decided to leave in.
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A thing that bums me out about Disco S1 was that they never actually followed-up on the actual Lorca. IIRC he gets a throwaway line about how he probably didn't get very far in the MU, but that's it. It sounds like he would have been a hell of an actual Starfleet captain, and who could say no to more Jason Isaacs? In fact, I feel like I remember reading an interview where Isaacs himself was like "hell yeah I'd love to come back and play real Lorca"
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That always seemed to me as an ideal opportunity for a cameo setup. If Discovery S3 does well, maybe we'll see it.
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Wasn’t the implication that he would have swapped places with Mirror Lorca on an exploding ship?
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FlamingLiberal posted:Wasn’t the implication that he would have swapped places with Mirror Lorca on an exploding ship? It's been awhile since I saw the episode, but I think it's stated (or heavily implied) that the Buran's explosion wasn't something that happened as a result of whatever anomaly brought Lorca to the prime universe, instead it was because Mirror Lorca caused it after the Buran crew found out about him. Or something. Edit: oh nope, I guess I made that up according to Memory Alpha. And the truth is even dumber.
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curiousTerminal posted:I just hit season 3 of Enterprise, and the new theme. S3 of Enterprise is generally very good with a few notable stinkers. S4 is even better, especially the series finale - Demons/Terra Prime. The extra episode after that is a fever dream we don’t talk about.
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