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miniscule12
Jan 8, 2020

HAHA YEAH HE PEED IN HIS OWN MOUTH I'M GONNA KEEP BRINGING IT UP.


The most on topic post yet.

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An insane mind
Aug 11, 2018

What does ML mean in the context of your post Epic High Five?

Hodgepodge
Jan 29, 2006
Probation
Can't post for 229 days!

Epic High Five posted:

I'm an ML, I believe most of these people can be reincorporated in the fullness of time, but I also believe that they must be stripped of all power before even the slightest bit of the beginning of progress could possibly be made. As I've said a hundred times before, I'm open to any possible method to achieve this that isn't what be cried over as "going too far" by lib dipshits despite it being maybe half as cruel as the carceral state they refuse to defang, but both history and theory tell me that the only answer is open palm slamming that "dictatorship of the proletariat" button

They'll have rights, sure, they won't starve and they won't be genocided or anything. That's their game. That's their flag we're burning and their monuments we're dynamiting. But they absolutely will not have power over anything more than choosing a meal off a menu until the damage they've done can be fixed. Will the new methods be awkward and less than ideal considering it'll be wholly new and coming in the aftermath of the demolition of the old modes? Absolutely, but it'll be better than now and will put us on track to a future that isn't 6 billion people roasting alive while a couple million gawk at the livefeeds in their compounds or orbitals

sure, but this is, at best, a conditional right

that's actually fine by me, but you should be clear both as to why a condition is necessary and what the condition is (capitalists are bastards who love exploiting systems and will do so if allowed electoral participation, working class interests and a solid understanding thereof).

Wafflecopper
Nov 27, 2004

I am a mouth, and I must scream

Normy posted:

Don’t think we know exactly how he died but it’s the likely case here.

https://twitter.com/yesyoureracist/status/1286453534683275269?s=21

lol if he died because he was too proud to admit he had covid and go to a hospital for help

Mr Interweb
Aug 25, 2004

Wafflecopper posted:

lol if he died because he was too proud to admit he had covid and go to a hospital for help

he was apparently only 55. seems pretty likely he did get the 'rona.

DR FRASIER KRANG
Feb 4, 2005

"Are you forgetting that just this afternoon I was punched in the face by a turtle now dead?
i dunno my immediate reaction was "whoa, he offed himself rather than living in shame. a real samurai."

Shalebridge Cradle
Apr 23, 2008


An insane mind posted:

What does ML mean in the context of your post Epic High Five?

Marxist-Leninist

Most Likely

pop fly to McGillicutty
Feb 2, 2004

A peckish little mouse!

FMguru posted:

Let's not completely write off the possibility of autoerotic asphyxiation, here.

Literally what I thought too

Mr Interweb
Aug 25, 2004

poo poo POST MALONE posted:

i dunno my immediate reaction was "whoa, he offed himself rather than living in shame. a real samurai."

as long he suffered, i'm cool :shrug:


also, more good news:

https://twitter.com/jasonrapert/status/1283240577518178305


quote:

Arkansas Sen. Jason Rapert, R-Conway, has tested positive for coronavirus. Rapert was hospitalized and diagnosed with pneumonia and COVID-19, according to a news release on Thursday

https://katv.com/news/local/arkansas-state-senator-hospitalized-with-covid-19

Wafflecopper
Nov 27, 2004

I am a mouth, and I must scream

Well he was right

Power Khan
Aug 20, 2011

by Fritz the Horse

Lol

ElGroucho
Nov 1, 2005

We already - What about sticking our middle fingers up... That was insane
Fun Shoe

Haha, die bitch

Somaen
Nov 19, 2007

by vyelkin
did roni actually kill anyone rich and powerful? besides putting johnson in the hospital its a poo poo plague

Mr Interweb
Aug 25, 2004

Somaen posted:

did roni actually kill anyone rich and powerful? besides putting johnson in the hospital its a poo poo plague

afaik, there haven't been any high profile deaths yet, but if the news about herman cain is true, he may be the first

stringless
Dec 28, 2005

keyboard ⌨️​ :clint: cowboy

Mr Interweb posted:

afaik, there haven't been any high profile deaths yet, but if the news about herman cain is true, he may be the first

That was three weeks ago and he's tweeting basically right now

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

What's weird about Herman Cain is while he's in the ICU he's still pumping out his godawful lovely opinions on Twitter constantly as if he's perfectly fine. Does he have a personal assistant still? If so they are very dedicated.

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


Tesseraction posted:

What's weird about Herman Cain is while he's in the ICU he's still pumping out his godawful lovely opinions on Twitter constantly as if he's perfectly fine. Does he have a personal assistant still? If so they are very dedicated.

Very few of these people do their own tweets especially the elderly ones. poo poo even Trump only writes about half of his.

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

Yeah Trump has Scavino Jr. and a few poor interns to tweet out his brain gems. Just Cain is clearly unable to post himself or he'd have posted about his successful discharge and/or triumphant "I'm still standing, libs" pictures.

Dixie Cretin Seaman
Jan 22, 2008

all hat and one catte
Hot Rope Guy
https://mobile.twitter.com/JStein_WaPo/status/1286388031633719299/photo/1

Declan MacManus
Sep 1, 2011

damn i'm really in this bitch


“i’m worried that if everybody’s starving to death because of donald trump’s policies, nobody’s gonna want to vote for trump :ohdear:

Mr Interweb
Aug 25, 2004

yeah, cain's twitter is definitely being run by one of his staffers or a family member or something. there's no way he would have recovered until now and not have trump brag endlessly about it


also, stephen miller's grandma died of covid. at least, that's what the Deep State (i.e. miller's family) wants you to think:

https://twitter.com/MSignorile/status/1286638076475912192

CodfishCartographer
Feb 23, 2010

Gadus Maprocephalus

Pillbug

Declan MacManus posted:

“i’m worried that if everybody’s starving to death because of donald trump’s policies, nobody’s gonna want to vote for trump :ohdear:

I lol'd that she's basically saying "If Trump had more left-wing policies I'd vote for him! No, I'm never voting for anyone other than a right-wing candidate, why do you ask?"

FMguru
Sep 10, 2003

peed on;
sexually

CodfishCartographer posted:

I lol'd that she's basically saying "If Trump had more left-wing policies I'd vote for him! No, I'm never voting for anyone other than a right-wing candidate, why do you ask?"
This is basically that herrenvolk democracy you see get talked about from time to time. She really likes the putting-the-boot-to-minorities part of Trumpism, but she'd love it if they combined that with increased social benefits (for her and people like her).

Power Khan
Aug 20, 2011

by Fritz the Horse

Amazing how loving stupid this is.

vyelkin
Jan 2, 2011

FMguru posted:

This is basically that herrenvolk democracy you see get talked about from time to time. She really likes the putting-the-boot-to-minorities part of Trumpism, but she'd love it if they combined that with increased social benefits (for her and people like her).

It's the desire for socialism but only for those within the boundaries of the national in-group. You could call it something catchy like, I dunno, national socialism.

CodfishCartographer
Feb 23, 2010

Gadus Maprocephalus

Pillbug

FMguru posted:

This is basically that herrenvolk democracy you see get talked about from time to time. She really likes the putting-the-boot-to-minorities part of Trumpism, but she'd love it if they combined that with increased social benefits (for her and people like her).

It's like the complete opposite of that "economically republican, socially democrat" mindset I remember seeing fairly often before Trump. I assume it still exists, but most of those people have either gone full Trump or backed off the republican party entirely.

LonsomeSon
Nov 22, 2009

A fishperson in an intimidating hat!

CodfishCartographer posted:

It's like the complete opposite of that "economically republican, socially democrat" mindset I remember seeing fairly often before Trump. I assume it still exists, but most of those people have either gone full Trump or backed off the republican party entirely.

every one of these abject liars went swimming in the brainworm tank in 2015; if there are any exceptions they’re the obvious Trump voters who smug all over the place at ‘being a centrist/independent’

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



An insane mind posted:

What does ML mean in the context of your post Epic High Five?

Marxist-Leninist, basically using Lenin's tactics to implement Marx's economic outline. He elaborated on it in a lot of work but State and Revolution is the one dedicated to it.

Hodgepodge posted:

sure, but this is, at best, a conditional right

that's actually fine by me, but you should be clear both as to why a condition is necessary and what the condition is (capitalists are bastards who love exploiting systems and will do so if allowed electoral participation, working class interests and a solid understanding thereof).

The unfortunate thing that really made me dehumanize and face to bloodshed was the realization that all right are conditional, and none more than the basic human ones

Declan MacManus posted:

“i’m worried that if everybody’s starving to death because of donald trump’s policies, nobody’s gonna want to vote for trump :ohdear:

Here's the fun thing about people killed or made homeless by Trump and the fiscally conservative Dems - they won't be able to vote them out lmao. Funny how that works

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



CodfishCartographer posted:

It's like the complete opposite of that "economically republican, socially democrat" mindset I remember seeing fairly often before Trump. I assume it still exists, but most of those people have either gone full Trump or backed off the republican party entirely.

These people exist still, I know a few. Though it'd be more accurate to say they are "economically libertarian, socially apathetic one way or the other"

I know 3 people like this, all hate both options and none of them are voting nor can they be compelled to vote. I had convinced 2 to vote for Bernie

Slamhound
Mar 27, 2010

Ron Howard Voice: She did vote period. For Trump.

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


lmao voting for any Republican when you've worked multiple jobs your whole life.

theflyingexecutive
Apr 22, 2007

Somaen posted:

did roni actually kill anyone rich and powerful? besides putting johnson in the hospital its a poo poo plague

I’m convinced plasma treatments are very effective, which is why people with antibodies are making hundreds of dollars for “donating” plasma for “research purposes” and why not a single high profile politician nor capitalist has bought it yet

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


*works 80 hours a week just to make ends meet* I love supporting this failed business clown who's had everything handed to him. He represents me.

Zerg Mans
Oct 19, 2006

Groovelord Neato posted:

*works 80 hours a week just to make ends meet* I love supporting this failed business clown who's had everything handed to him. He represents me.

to quote the only insightful thing Meghhahan McCain has ever said; "They don't like the things he likes, they hate the things he hates"

FMguru
Sep 10, 2003

peed on;
sexually

Groovelord Neato posted:

lmao voting for any Republican when you've worked multiple jobs your whole life.
The thought of people not having to work three jobs to make ends meet (like they did) fills them with rage. I had to suffer through a hard and lovely life, therefore everybody should have to live a hard and lovely life!

pseudanonymous
Aug 30, 2008

When you make the second entry and the debits and credits balance, and you blow them to hell.

zegermans posted:

to quote the only insightful thing Meghhahan McCain has ever said; "They don't like the things he likes, they hate the things he hates"

didn’t she also go on a rant about how trump is only successful because of his daddy? or maybe this was re: the Trump boys

my bony fealty
Oct 1, 2008

pseudanonymous posted:

didn’t she also go on a rant about how trump is only successful because of his daddy? or maybe this was re: the Trump boys

like recognize like

Son of Rodney
Feb 22, 2006

ohmygodohmygodohmygod

FMguru posted:

The thought of people not having to work three jobs to make ends meet (like they did) fills them with rage. I had to suffer through a hard and lovely life, therefore everybody should have to live a hard and lovely life!

They're basically Calvin's dad, without any of the humor, goodwill, or fed-upness with the rat race.

"it builds character!"

Declan MacManus
Sep 1, 2011

damn i'm really in this bitch

meghan mccain’s political ideology is just as spotty and incoherent as dear old dad’s with the same end goal of cryptofascism + building/maintaining the legend of john mccain

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Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

sucks to be right

gimme the GOD drat candy posted:

democrats love the pointless cruelty of means testing. it's almost religious.

Here in Australia the lovely right-wing LNP party which is currently in power decided to check the validity of people's unemployment payments using their averaged income instead of their claimed fortnightly incomes, which the individual payments are based around. Also they not only automated the system to do all the calculations en masse, they also automated the system which calculated how much people had been "overpaid" and generated & sent "You owe us $x000 dollars, your payments have been suspended" notices (AKA "robodebt") because some bean counter pointed out that even though this system would make a lot of mistakes, they would save millions of dollars doing it this way rather than having public servants check each case individually. And hey, if a couple thousand dole bludgers got hosed around who's going to care?

As expected, tens of thousands of people got royally hosed by this dumbassery and a lot of them faced incredible hardships as a result. One of the biggest legal firms in the country organised a pro bono class action suit against the government which thousands of people signed onto but about 2,000 "robotdebt" recipients actually died while all this was occurring, the hardships and extreme poverty they were experiencing no doubt contributing to many of those deaths. Whistleblowers leaked papers that showed that the government was aware all along that the system wasn't fit for purpose and they've since acknowledged that the 'robodebt' scheme was unlawful and have agreed to pay back tens of millions of dollars.

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2020/jul/01/robodebt-victims-forced-to-wait-for-refunds-from-unlawful-centrelink-debts

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