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Grape
Nov 16, 2017

Happily shilling for China!

ElGroucho posted:

Roman Catholic Mexicans are extremely liberal, lmfao

Get real dude

There's a weird (totally born in American Protestant circles, and/or imported from Europe where it has some truth) idea that Catholicism = HARDCORE ROSARY GRAPPLING BLIND POPE FOLLOWING ACTION.
And like yeah average Catholic folk can go big on social conservatism, but are also just as goddamn flexible and potentially liberal or progressive as mainline protestant groups that no one ever lobs accusations of extremism at.

It's one of those (ironically) conservativisms that has just gone ahead and bled into the great American well of secular leftish white people who were also raised in very non-ethnic white culturally protestant areas, and SWEAR it had no effect on their thinking.
I think they go ahead and extend it to all out groups to one degree or another, and never self analyze. And then it bubbles up in C-Spam and this conversation happens.

Are there big chuddy shitheads in non-white non-protestant groups? No poo poo.
But maybe if you start talking about them like big scary covert chud hives, kept tethered to progressive causes by a thin thread of civilization. You might just be expressing latent chud crap yourself. hth

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FMguru
Sep 10, 2003

peed on;
sexually
The defining political characteristic of American Catholics is that their opinions, as a group, are smack dab in the great American middle of whatever you're polling for. If you do a sample, and they you break out Catholics as a sub-sample, the Catholics will always be within a point or two of the overall sample. It's uncanny. Even for hot-button social issues like immigration or birth control or abortion.

There are chud Catholics (the Opus Dei types with their hairshirts and Latin masses) but they make up no greater portion of Catholics than chuds make up of the overall population. There are Catholics who feel very strongly about social justice issues, but they make up the same proportion of Catholics as they do the overall population. "Catholic", as a polling or targeting category, is almost completely meaningless.

Grape
Nov 16, 2017

Happily shilling for China!
lol just lol at the proud Maoist Third Worldists of C-Spam actually going the "idpol" route of thinking chud segments of minority ethnic/religious groups are primarily motivated by their quaint old world ways, and not by classist recognition of trying to stick their noses up the butts of the top castes in the society and spit down on the low ones.

Push El Burrito
May 9, 2006

Soiled Meat

BiggerBoat posted:


Lastly, isn't the ultimate takeaway here that people aren't getting paid enough at their lovely jobs and not that everyone is a lazy loving freeloader? And what the gently caress do you care if someone is temporarily making slightly more money to stem the spread of a deadly virus for a short amount of time while you're secure at your job and are considered essential?


I like pointing out that the switch from "unskilled worker" to "essential worker" happened super fast but the pay stayed the same.

ElGroucho
Nov 1, 2005

We already - What about sticking our middle fingers up... That was insane
Fun Shoe
A lot Mexicans would be (and sometimes are) republicans, because a lot of chudly type Chicanos love guns and bootstraps talk and are also a little racist and homophobic. But most of them/us aren't because you can only be called a spic and a wetback so many times by conservatives before you realize they loving hate you

Also, we have the institutional memory that the only president who ever gave a gently caress about Mexicans was LBJ. My grandpa used to get teary eyed when he talked about ol' Piss in your Eye.

GodspeedSphere
Apr 25, 2008
Yeah at some point everyone who was called an essential worker realized it meant expendable. Still seeing a lot of "Heroes work here" people not get it though.

Purely anecdotal and I haven't asked enough to know if this polls well enough among southwest Roman Catholic blah blah it's loving C-Spam you morons go back to DnD.

BigDave
Jul 14, 2009

Taste the High Country

FMguru posted:

The defining political characteristic of American Catholics is that their opinions, as a group, are smack dab in the great American middle of whatever you're polling for. If you do a sample, and they you break out Catholics as a sub-sample, the Catholics will always be within a point or two of the overall sample. It's uncanny. Even for hot-button social issues like immigration or birth control or abortion.

There are chud Catholics (the Opus Dei types with their hairshirts and Latin masses) but they make up no greater portion of Catholics than chuds make up of the overall population. There are Catholics who feel very strongly about social justice issues, but they make up the same proportion of Catholics as they do the overall population. "Catholic", as a polling or targeting category, is almost completely meaningless.

I think the main reason why bead jiggers are seen as being hard right of center is 1) the whole no condoms anti-abortion thing, and 2), the US Government used the right wing members of the Vatican leadership to run interference with the Soviets during the Cold War. Opus Dei especially was used by State to spread the gospel according to Reagan.

Cocaine Bear
Nov 4, 2011

ACAB

Everyone is a terrible person hth

Animal-Mother
Feb 14, 2012

RABBIT RABBIT
RABBIT RABBIT
There's a distinct lack of Trump voters realizing that they're going to die under Trump in the thread these days. In my personal experience, chuds seem to have doubled, tripled, and quadrupled down on the idea that everything's fine, the media is simply trying to scare us, the militarized police aren't out to hurt innocent people, and Trump is an excellent president who definitely doesn't have a big full diaper. Like, the more the evidence piles up that things are hosed, the further they bury their heads in the sand. They weren't doing this nearly as much a year ago.

To make matters worse, many of them seem to have learned to mimic Tucker Carlson's rhetorical style, so no matter whether you politely engage with them or just tell them they've become Nazis, well, that polite Hitler comic sums it up.

Grape
Nov 16, 2017

Happily shilling for China!

BigDave posted:

I think the main reason why bead jiggers are seen as being hard right of center is 1) the whole no condoms anti-abortion thing, and 2), the US Government used the right wing members of the Vatican leadership to run interference with the Soviets during the Cold War. Opus Dei especially was used by State to spread the gospel according to Reagan.

We're not talking about the vatican, we're talking about views of the Catholic population.

Business Gorillas
Mar 11, 2009

:harambe:



this poo poo sucks post more chud death

Okuteru
Nov 10, 2007

Choose this life you're on your own

ElGroucho posted:

Roman Catholic Mexicans are extremely liberal, lmfao

Get real dude

I still remember anti-abortion posters all over my church, you sure about that?

ElGroucho posted:

A lot Mexicans would be (and sometimes are) republicans, because a lot of chudly type Chicanos love guns and bootstraps talk and are also a little racist and homophobic. But most of them/us aren't because you can only be called a spic and a wetback so many times by conservatives before you realize they loving hate you

Also, we have the institutional memory that the only president who ever gave a gently caress about Mexicans was LBJ. My grandpa used to get teary eyed when he talked about ol' Piss in your Eye.

A lot of Spanish swears are just a bunch of ways to call someone a bundle of sticks.

ElGroucho
Nov 1, 2005

We already - What about sticking our middle fingers up... That was insane
Fun Shoe

Forceholy posted:

I still remember anti-abortion posters all over my church, you sure about that?

woosh.com

Pornographic Memory
Dec 17, 2008

Business Gorillas posted:

this poo poo sucks post more chud death

to be fair nothing is better than chud death

Dixie Cretin Seaman
Jan 22, 2008

all hat and one catte
Hot Rope Guy
not chud death but amusing schadenfreude
https://twitter.com/yadithvaldez/status/1287449431004942339

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004




Already gone lol

H.P. Hovercraft
Jan 12, 2004

one thing a computer can do that most humans can't is be sealed up in a cardboard box and sit in a warehouse
Slippery Tilde

FMguru posted:

The defining political characteristic of American Catholics is that their opinions, as a group, are smack dab in the great American middle of whatever you're polling for. If you do a sample, and they you break out Catholics as a sub-sample, the Catholics will always be within a point or two of the overall sample. It's uncanny. Even for hot-button social issues like immigration or birth control or abortion.

There are chud Catholics (the Opus Dei types with their hairshirts and Latin masses) but they make up no greater portion of Catholics than chuds make up of the overall population. There are Catholics who feel very strongly about social justice issues, but they make up the same proportion of Catholics as they do the overall population. "Catholic", as a polling or targeting category, is almost completely meaningless.

last i saw it was something like 90% of polled catholics who actively practice a form of birth control beyond just "the rhythm method"

tbf i come from catholicland southern louisiana where the most of the actively churchgoing, tithing ones i personally knew practiced poo poo like volunteering with Habitat and at homeless outreach orgs and whatnot and took caring for their fellow man really seriously


granted i also tended to see a fair amount of antisemitism from them, like i heard the blood libel repeated to me more than a few times from those types. so y'know catholicism is a land of contrasts

Hillary 2024
Nov 13, 2016

by vyelkin

Cao Ni Ma posted:

Herman cain being in the hospital for 3+ weeks means he got it pretty loving bad

Still waiting for a high profile death to set the chuds all a-quiver. So far it's just been anonymous no-name doesn't believe in masks, dies horribly still blaming both sides of the mainstream media.

Grape
Nov 16, 2017

Happily shilling for China!
It's super cliche but the screenwriters might be planning to have Trump catch it in like mid-October.

Dixie Cretin Seaman
Jan 22, 2008

all hat and one catte
Hot Rope Guy

Epic High Five posted:

Already gone lol

here's a reupload with laugh track, it's the border wall falling down in tropical storm hanna (apologies in advance for smearing lincoln project on your lovely thread)

https://twitter.com/skolanach/status/1287552590104805376

FMguru
Sep 10, 2003

peed on;
sexually

Mr Interweb posted:

https://dallasvoice.com/a-harsh-les...#comment-141815


cliff notes: gay chud throws a party, winds up infecting almost everyone in his family and kills his father in law and his mother (the father in law's mother, not the gay chud's)

Mr Interweb
Aug 25, 2004

Business Gorillas posted:

this poo poo sucks post more chud death

your wish is my command:

quote:

Imagine the sound and vibration of an old-fashioned electric heater going through your whole body. Imagine gasping for air with every step you take. Imagine rubbing Icy Hot all over your head to soothe a painful headache. Imagine your eyes in a bowl of water while you’re still seeing through them. Imagine collapsing and waking up in the ER only to find out COVID-19 attacked your central nervous system, and the doctor had just saved you from a stroke.

If that were the worst of it, it would be bad enough. But that’s not the worst of it. This is the story of one family’s harrowing fight with COVID-19.

https://dallasvoice.com/a-harsh-les...#comment-141815


cliff notes: gay chud throws a party, winds up infecting almost everyone in his family and kills his father in law and his mother (the father in law's mother, not the gay chud's)


edit: ach, beaten

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004




if only there was some way to know that throwing a huge party was likely to spread the virus

kitten emergency
Jan 13, 2008

get meow this wack-ass crystal prison

Epic High Five posted:

if only there was some way to know that throwing a huge party was likely to spread the virus

ElGroucho
Nov 1, 2005

We already - What about sticking our middle fingers up... That was insane
Fun Shoe

This dude should kill himself

Mr Interweb
Aug 25, 2004

wait, how did i miss this critical detail, he posted a gofundme page to help pay for medical bills:

https://tinyurl.com/y2o6adqv

quote:

Rafael has COVID/Pneumonia. His situation has gone from bad to worse. He is now incapacitated and on life support. The medical bills are now over $1 million dollars. Although insurance will cover much of it, the out of pocket expenses will be overwhelming.

:lol:

my bony fealty
Oct 1, 2008

thats wild dipshit hosted the party on the 13th and two days later they were all sick

covid ain't goin away!!

Mr Interweb
Aug 25, 2004

14 people in his family got infected. yeesh

quote:

I cannot help but feel responsible for convincing our families it was safe to have a get together. The guilt I feel for all this suffering is overwhelming.

good job, dumbass

at least you owned the libs

Stefan Prodan
Jan 7, 2002

I deeply respect you as a human being... Some day I'm gonna make you *Mrs* Buck Turgidson!


Grimey Drawer

Mr Interweb posted:

14 people in his family got infected. yeesh


good job, dumbass

at least you owned the libs

lol maybe I'd be a little sympathetic if this party was in early march or something but this was in motherfucking JUNE!!!! six fig people were dead already

get hosed idiot you killed your family good job

god that makes me steamed lol

Mr Interweb
Aug 25, 2004

also, i'm curious what the rest of his family members' political stances were, considering this guy was a gay chud in a gay marriage.

Gringostar
Nov 12, 2016
Morbid Hound

im pretty sure i could make my girlfriends head literally explode if i showed her this

e context: she is a microbiology phd with an emphasis in virology

Gringostar has issued a correction as of 06:10 on Jul 27, 2020

Dixie Cretin Seaman
Jan 22, 2008

all hat and one catte
Hot Rope Guy

Gringostar posted:

im pretty sure i could make my gf head literally explode if i showed her this

it's called the germ theory of disease, not the germ fact of disease, checkmate libtards :smug:

A Buttery Pastry
Sep 4, 2011

Delicious and Informative!
:3:

Random rear end in a top hat posted:

If you're using 'liberal' to mean neoliberal, then yes. If you're using it to mean 'left-wing', then ahahahahahahahahano.
Neoliberalism is just liberalism with an updated vocabulary. Liberalism has never been left-wing and has always been the libertarianism of the successful.

Dixie Cretin Seaman
Jan 22, 2008

all hat and one catte
Hot Rope Guy

https://twitter.com/GarretKramer/status/1285987574939615233/photo/1

... solvents?

Powered Descent
Jul 13, 2008

We haven't had that spirit here since 1969.

H.P. Hovercraft posted:

last i saw it was something like 90% of polled catholics who actively practice a form of birth control beyond just "the rhythm method"

That fits with my experience growing up in a Catholic family. Of all the faithful that I've known, within the family or not, it's always been exceedingly rare to find one who wasn't a cafeteria Catholic in one way or another. They'll happily take a helping of the ritual and fellowship and communion, but as for, say, the anti-abortionism, or "Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus"... well you know what, they'll just leave that right there in the steam tray for someone else to pick up if that's what they like.

Dixie Cretin Seaman
Jan 22, 2008

all hat and one catte
Hot Rope Guy
https://twitter.com/DrEricDing/status/1287595979412209665
https://twitter.com/DrEricDing/status/1287597425444651009

pseudanonymous
Aug 30, 2008

When you make the second entry and the debits and credits balance, and you blow them to hell.

If you genuinely believe than you absolutely should be willing to die for your faith.

Mr Interweb
Aug 25, 2004


"i wouldn't mind letting the leopard eat MY face again :downs: "

Laterite
Mar 14, 2007

It's Gutfest '89
Grimey Drawer


lmao he got a blue check for this

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davidspackage
May 16, 2007

Nap Ghost

What, like stomach acid? "Let's play that game where you puke into my mouth and I puke into yours!"

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