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The northern valley/central valley and the foothills will probably get dangerous if you are not white or if you are lgbt around the elections, I mean Chico has had People threaten BLM protest organizers so much that they barely happen and the proud boys hang out with the sheriff deputies in a bar, so uh please be careful.
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Sydin posted:Believe women. I believe them, never said I didn’t.
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krysmopompas posted:Pelosi is personally responsible for the deaths of millions around the globe, but the opposition was mean to a former employee that tried to engineer a sex panic in retaliation. yeah you sound like you believe women alright
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MAKE NO BABBYS posted:yeah you sound like you believe women alright Trying to create a panic out of these things only serves to obscure how truly awful pelosi is & how laser focused she is on serving the ruling class. We have no reason to think that Shahid’s positions aren’t genuine, and there haven’t been any policy based arguments against him at all. If you’re more comfortable with Pelosi in spite of that, then that’s part of why we’re so hosed.
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krysmopompas posted:If he’s a lovely, abusive boss, then he’s literally like everyone else in government You are literally gross and wrong.
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droll posted:You are literally gross and wrong.
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krysmopompas posted:Do you literally think that this weighs more heavily on a scale of justice than introducing someone like Guaido as the “legitimate” leader of a democratic country that overwhelmingly decided otherwise, in an election that was more free and fair than anything any american has ever experienced? Just take the L, buddy.
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Centrist Committee posted:Just take the L, buddy. They made really good points but keep trying to maintain your echo chamber I guess
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Centrist Committee posted:Just take the L, buddy.
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Love to stan abusive people in this thread.
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FilthyImp posted:Love to stan abusive people in this thread. We have to work with the organizations we have, and nobody seems to be building any alternative, so it is what it is.
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Hey did you guys hear that Bernie Sanders said a woman can't be president? Hold that football still here I come (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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spacejung posted:Hey did you guys hear that Bernie Sanders said a woman can't be president? Hold that football still here I come Bernie is literally abusive, because he's in government. Literally. You made an excellent point. I'd literally like to hear more.
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droll posted:Bernie is literally abusive, because he's in government. Literally. You made an excellent point. I'd literally like to hear more. Believe women
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MAKE NO BABBYS posted:100% gently caress shahid buttar and gently caress you for donating to him. I feel really dirty for donating to his campaign before the revelations. He keeps calling me and texting me so i hope i'm not like, their top donator or something.
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spacejung posted:Believe women but i'll get blamed for 4 more years of trump if i do that
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H.P. Hovercraft posted:but i'll get blamed for 4 more years of trump if i do that It's praxisssssss
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What the gently caress is happening in this thread?
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The contradictions are heightening is all
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H.P. Hovercraft posted:but i'll get blamed for 4 more years of trump if i do that You say that as though you won't no matter what. luminalflux posted:I feel really dirty for donating to his campaign before the revelations. I mean, I hosted events for the campaign and helped them organize others. I got into a pissing match with someone texting me about volunteering again yesterday because I said "not interested in supporting sex pests or lovely, abusive employers, shame he decided to hand the vote to Pelosi, remove me from your list" and they responded that that "had been disproven" and referred me to the campaign site. spacejung posted:It's praxisssssss jesus gently caress you're a moron
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The Glumslinger posted:Technically lefty infighting is praxis *flexes warping light around myself during struggle session* your hatred is impure
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krysmopompas posted:If he’s a lovely, abusive boss, then he’s literally like everyone else in government. they teach us this to keep us from asking for better. literally the only use of the campaign was in reminding people that we can expect more from our politicians. are you able to see how that use has diminished?
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My new favorite game is spamming F5 on air quality maps waiting for the number to dip just low enough that I feel comfortable opening my windows to cycle the air in my apartment.
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Does that mean I'm not the only one to wait for it to post at 4:30 AM? Love to have the bike season cut short by an AQI in the "chunky" range.
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The discourse Side 1: Self dealing progress bashing career pols like Pelosi, Schumer, McConnell, Richard Neal, et al must all be primaried and beaten, fast, in fact it's already too late to stop 90% of the damage they have done but we are still going to try. Both parties will come out ready to lie cheat and slander to prevent this, but with our critical thinking skills we can evaluate each piece of evidence and above all avoid jumping to conclusions. We can't and won't elect abusers and we also won't allow the same canard employed against Alex Morse to become the silver bullet aimed at left leaning insurgent campaigns. Side 2: The minute I hear any allegation of wrong doing by a candidate, I launch my sprint to the finish line where I shout to the heavens - cancelled!. I will denounce them first and most loudly, and even months later I will spit on their campaign's volunteers if they text or look at me sideways. I don't care about whether the allegations are corroborated, sexual or non sexual, and in fact I'll conflate all allegations regardless of their specifics into what I call "the principle of the thing" or praxis if I'm feeling especially poseury. And that's the key, more than anything: the principle of the thing is the little steppy stool I have that makes me feel safe and in control and regardless of how bad the results are electorally, I can climb up just those one or two steps and look down on everyone else and know that I was better, and I was first, and I was right. Black and white, open and shut case. And if pragmatists or skeptics think they can teeter totter my steppy stool, well then they're going to find out what it's like to fight against the high ground. Result: side 2 flawless victory!! Multi hit combo
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krysmopompas posted:Even if he was a creep at a party nearly 20 years ago, there’s been enough time for him to grow out of it. If he’s a lovely, abusive boss, then he’s literally like everyone else in government. If he was a creep 20 years ago and now today he’s an abusive boss, he hasn’t actually changed, he’s merely shifted to the societally acceptable way of abusing others when he has power. If the argument becomes, “but he’s our power hungry politician who knows how to say and do the right things” then okay, there’s been growth on the left figuring out that getting good people to regularly run in politics and especially challenge the very powerful can be hit or miss given the risks involved. At times, it takes someone who desires the position and power heavily to even attempt the run. It’s still icky. And he also still had 0 chance. Pelosi represents SF, the SF that comes out to vote and plasters, “RESIST” stickers on their travel coffee mugs, the ones holding the, “i would’ve been at brunch and not protesting if Hillary had won.” Failure of the November Revolution? The left in America is the strongest it’s been in generations, while at the same time, it’s still relatively weak in comparison to the establishments. But without the efforts of finding and running and winning in local and races related to our Legislative wing, we won’t get to an actual Revolution using the processes we have. And we are going to lose things, but that’s not a reason to start running around pointing fingers at people and calling them insufficiently lefty and supporting the establishment and doing the exact thing that’s going to keep the left down without the establishment actually needing to do anything.
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Lol October just keeps on giving. https://twitter.com/jordanchariton/status/1312417842797699073?s=21
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RasperFat posted:Lol October just keeps on giving.
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Some of you are living in a dream world. As soon as Bernie wasn't the nominee, it should have been extremely obvious to anyone that Buttar had no chance of winning. A hopeless campaign's only use is waving the red flag, ie getting free press to normalize socialist positions and driving the dissatisfied minority into organizations that will last longer than the election cycle. If we were more organized, it could also be used for fundraising, like a leftist Amy Mcgrath, tricking liberals around the country to donate on the basis of their hatred of her opponent, then funneling the money into places where it could actually accomplish something. But we aren't, so his use was dependent on him being locally liked. It should cost you nothing to dismiss losing and disliked candidates, and you should reflect deeply on why you're resistant to doing so. The goal is power. Not his, but mine and yours. Toss all this splitters horseshit. Doc Hawkins fucked around with this message at 17:16 on Oct 3, 2020 |
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Skinnymansbeerbelly posted:an AQI in the "chunky" range. 
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spacejung posted:The discourse I AM SAYING THAT SHAHID BUTTAR WAS ALWAYS OFF WHEN I INTERACTED WITH HIM (AS A VOLUNTEER, SUPPORTING HIS CAMPAIGN) AND HIS INAPPROPRIATE, ABUSIVE AND SEXUALLY CHARGED BEHAVIOR IN THE WORKPLACE DIRECTLY NEGATIVELY AFFECTED TWO PEOPLE THAT I KNOW AND ARE WELL RESPECTED LEFTIST ORGANIZERS. So either I'm a Pelosi opp plant or you're a loving rear end in a top hat, which is it? The creep is going to loving lose anyhow, work to get Jackie elected and build mutual aid networks in your community.
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MAKE NO BABBYS posted:I AM SAYING THAT SHAHID BUTTAR WAS ALWAYS OFF WHEN I INTERACTED WITH HIM (AS A VOLUNTEER, SUPPORTING HIS CAMPAIGN) AND HIS INAPPROPRIATE, ABUSIVE AND SEXUALLY CHARGED BEHAVIOR IN THE WORKPLACE DIRECTLY NEGATIVELY AFFECTED TWO PEOPLE THAT I KNOW AND ARE WELL RESPECTED LEFTIST ORGANIZERS. It sounds like you're terminally involved in SF DSA drama to me, which seems to afflict every angle of this abortive Buttar campaign. While I'm fielding non objective anecdotal evidence, why should I rank your anonymous opinion over this non-anonymous one: https://medium.com/@peaceful_eminen...not-c9e14968bf3
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spacejung posted:It sounds like you're terminally involved in SF DSA drama to me, which seems to afflict every angle of this abortive Buttar campaign. While I'm fielding non objective anecdotal evidence, why should I rank your anonymous opinion over this non-anonymous one: not even a member as they are far too centrist, but go on Gahaha, posting an article from the chair of a democratic central committee 
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Let's set aside all of these allegations and the messiness of addressing sexually impropriety as it relates to politics (i.e. the Alex Morse vs. Tara Reade debate) and unite around the fact that whatever his other virtues or faults, Shahid Butter talks a lot about Burning Man and that's pretty annoying no matter how you slice it.
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Kenning posted:Let's set aside all of these allegations and the messiness of addressing sexually impropriety as it relates to politics (i.e. the Alex Morse vs. Tara Reade debate) and unite around the fact that whatever his other virtues or faults, Shahid Butter talks a lot about Burning Man and that's pretty annoying no matter how you slice it. Finally a voice of reason
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in other SF news you won't like hearing about, aspiring gentry driven to madness by homeless people existing have been reduced to making sock-puppets to spread yimby memes against socialist SF supervisor Dean Prestonquote:On a recent Thursday, a Twitter account purporting to be one Emily Zeng, a District 5 in-law unit resident, disseminated a snarky and cutting meme targeting District 5 Supervisor Dean Preston. lol "Zeng," learn 2 pinyin, scrubs
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