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Pick posted:Biden did turn people out. Turnout of dems is super high. Both are huge Trump turnouts for/against him. Biden is an irrelevant wet noodle in this election.
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Angry_Ed posted:My hometown consistently votes red cause it's a bunch of stupid assholes, and now I live in the district that can't elect anyone more left than Seth Moulton I am salty about Question 2 losing. Mostly becuase looking at the returns the Question 2 people forgot to target mill cities.
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I’m here for that power struggle that’s going to happen over the next four years inside the republican party. The Trump kids are absolutely going to try to follow in their father‘s footsteps and I would imagine there is probably a lot of people not interested in seeing that.
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Mr Interweb posted:you know, plenty of people over the years have criticized the chuds over the years for "voting against their self-interest" (including myself), but i think an uncomfortable truth we may need to hear is that, they are in fact, voting IN their self-interest. trump owning the libs, is as important to them as is keeping their health insurance. yes, MAYBE they will get to a point where their material conditions get bad enough that they will vote democrat, but trump being the personification of the conservative id is enough to make them support him, regardless of the damage he may do to them. I think it's more that they don't necessarily agree that policies described as being in their interest will actually benefit them. American politics have become utterly defined by trust issues, and alternative media has splendidly taken advantage of that. I think that the whole "voting against their self-interest" premise is just an attempt to hide from the truth. It's not that conservative voters prefer to be poor as long as they can own the libs, it's that they think the libs are trying to drive everyone into poverty and therefore owning them (even if it's painful in the short-term) is the only way to open up a road to riches. But that's an issue that goes well beyond electoral politics, and has sunk deeply into the fabric of American society.
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A GIANT PARSNIP posted:After he’s out of the White House his handlers will be gone and it will be possible to interact directly with him by trolling his tweets with burner accounts. If he's no longer President of the United States of America, will Twitter finally ban him or will they just come up with another excuse why he doesn't have to follow the ToS?
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Dick Trauma posted:https://twitter.com/johnkruzel/status/1324004554485211136?s=20 Oh, look. Actual, real deal, election fraud. Every state D party affected, in a state that doesn't allow late arriving mail ballots, needs to sue to be allowed to count those ballots.
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There's going to be an unending flood of misinformation about fake votes etc. lol even if Trump wins, then it'll be "It was close only because they cheated"
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Rides Naked posted:Isn't that the definition of "voting against their interests" No. It's just a misunderstanding by the people who say it as to what their interests actually are and how they prioritize them. (Some actually ARE voting against their interests because they got stuck in the right wing media bubble and disconnected from reality, and are voting for things they think they're voting against. But most? Most of them have "emotional/identity validation" and "hurt their enemies" and the like as their most important interests)
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Rides Naked posted:Isn't that the definition of "voting against their interests" Only if you have terminal neolib brain and think people's interests begin and end with cash.
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I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!
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spunkshui posted:I’m here for that power struggle that’s going to happen over the next four years inside the republican party. I don't think they'll go anywhere. Kennedy the clinton's and Jeb! Have shown the one thing both sides can agree on is that political dynasty's belong in the trash.
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ZZZorcerer posted:even if Trump wins, then it'll be "It was close only because they cheated" They'll be right, just not in the way they mean.
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fadam posted:Not to be a wonk, but I think this is probably perfect for Trump. He doesn't have to be president anymore, and he has a plausible reason (for his fans, anyway) for why he lost. Trump himself won’t see it that way, but he scored a big victory today. Trumpism has been vindicated. He beat long odds once, did everything in his power to lose, and came alarmingly close to winning again outright. Plus the Republicans still have the Senate. Anyone hoping for a shift in Republican strategy can put that out of their head. He laid out the path for minority rule for a generation and were stuck with his legacy long after he dies.
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https://twitter.com/LiamWBZ/status/1324007227582259200 Jesus loving Christ.
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MJeff posted:https://twitter.com/LiamWBZ/status/1324007227582259200 Holy poo poo. They did. They put in the fix.
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Deteriorata posted:Yeah, I think that was most of the story. Turnout was huge, and rather than the excess vote being heavily D as usual, there were a whole bunch of chuds that came out of nowhere. I said it last night, look at a map of Texas in 2016 and compare it to last night. Hover over some of the districts. Biden's pickups in Dallas are massive. He went from a Trump +10 in 2016 to dead even. He flipped 2 counties around Austin. Harris county was pretty meh all things considered. Biden did struggle on the southern part of the state, but the Dallas numbers are absolutely incredible.
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This is a real nail-biter, but the biggest surprise is how poorly the dems are doing in the Senate races, arguably more important for us than the presidency. If McConnell keeps his majority then nothing will ever get done during Biden's term and we'll just keep spinning wheels endlessly in Washington.
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Pick posted:Holy poo poo. They did. They put in the fix.
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MJeff posted:https://twitter.com/LiamWBZ/status/1324007227582259200 Holy gently caress. Shout that poo poo from the rooftops
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MJeff posted:https://twitter.com/LiamWBZ/status/1324007227582259200
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MJeff posted:https://twitter.com/LiamWBZ/status/1324007227582259200 Jesus. If nothing else the GOP has successfully killed any possible trust in mail-in ballots.
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Zotix posted:I said it last night, look at a map of Texas in 2016 and compare it to last night. Hover over some of the districts. Biden's pickups in Dallas are massive. He went from a Trump +10 in 2016 to dead even. He flipped 2 counties around Austin. Harris county was pretty meh all things considered. Biden did struggle on the southern part of the state, but the Dallas numbers are absolutely incredible. Even in Florida its loving bizarre. Biden ran ahead of Hillary everywhere except Miami-Dade.
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Seyser Koze posted:At this point Biden winning may be the worse outcome. The only way 2022 isn't a slaughter is if Trump is the one holding the bag. I would have said that once, but seeing how strong his performance was in this election, getting rid of him is the best option. I do think he has a certain magnetism that other Republicans just don't.
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Holy poo poo, this whole thread: https://twitter.com/johnkruzel/status/1324004554485211136 https://twitter.com/LiamWBZ/status/1324007227582259200
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MJeff posted:https://twitter.com/LiamWBZ/status/1324007227582259200 These need to be counted. It’s not the voters fault.
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Pick posted:Holy poo poo. They did. They put in the fix. I just shouted Jesus Christ here at work
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Zore posted:Even in Florida its loving bizarre. Biden ran ahead of Hillary everywhere except Miami-Dade. see above tweet
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ImpAtom posted:Jesus. If nothing else the GOP has successfully killed any possible trust in mail-in ballots. That was the goal.
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about 500k absentee ballots were mailed in maine, and only 27k? or so didn't send their ballots in on time you 27 thousand lazy pieces of poo poo, grrr
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Put dejoy in loving jail. I’m so loving tired of our administration breaking laws. I am so incredibly loving tired
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spunkshui posted:Put dejoy i. loving jail. No. Jail is too good for the treasonous gently caress. Put him in Gitmo. I'm not even joking.
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MJeff posted:https://twitter.com/LiamWBZ/status/1324007227582259200 Zore posted:Even in Florida its loving bizarre. Biden ran ahead of Hillary everywhere except Miami-Dade. WEIRD
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This is why a lot of the time I ignore the whole "The Dems failed to enthuse the voters to GOTV because they're bad" takes, because holy gently caress is there ever a massive maching putting their thumb on the scale to disenfranchise, cheat and steal every single vote they can to win. Something I guarantee the Dems don't do back. If they manage to squeak in the Senate, the Democrats have to go all out and smash the gently caress out of the GOP with all the might they can muster. The GOP won't ever stop trying this poo poo.
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Zore posted:Even in Florida its loving bizarre. Biden ran ahead of Hillary everywhere except Miami-Dade. https://imgur.com/a/UFsEiKd Look at the comparisons I did last night in there. The order didn't show up properly like it did last night so you'll need to scroll a little to compare, but he made huge strides there.
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Angry_Ed posted:No. Jail is too good for the treasonous gently caress. LOL. Who is going to hold him accountable?
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D1E posted:LOL. Who is going to hold him accountable? NY AG probably.
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D1E posted:LOL. Who is going to hold him accountable? Well, he won't be the head of the postal service in January likely, and a DoJ investigation is likely.
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MJeff posted:https://twitter.com/LiamWBZ/status/1324007227582259200 Biden needs to prosecute the trump administration the microsecond he gets into office if he lets them get away with this then dems have pretty much given up on this country.
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Dick Trauma posted:https://twitter.com/johnkruzel/status/1324004554485211136?s=20 I'm glad they're following up on this, at least. I was legitimately worried that the USPS was going to ignore a court order and that that would be the end of it. Ninja edit: 27% of mail-in ballots not being delivered in southern Florida. 
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Deteriorata posted:Yeah, I think that was most of the story. Turnout was huge, and rather than the excess vote being heavily D as usual, there were a whole bunch of chuds that came out of nowhere. this close election demonstrates that almost half of america is on board with trump and his behavior and policies. we just showed the world who we truly are.
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