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SO DEMANDING posted:to this day i have no loving idea what a nest does better than any other programmable thermostat, and the "learning" claims never made sense. i'll just program the goddamn thing to turn on when i'm home and off when i'm at work. one thing it will do is program itself automatically based on your usage if you arent the kind of person to program a thermostat (iow literally everyone except the people in this forum) granted this is a lot less useful post pandemic also if you are the kind of person who programs a thermostat then you will not like it changing your programming all the time another is that there are two sets of boundaries for use one normal and the other for efficiency so in more pleasant weather you can simply swap modes to leaf and not have to fiddle with the thermostat at all ofc it also does all the other stuff youd expect a modern thermostat to do like work based on voice controls and respond to vocal queries as to the temperature one claim ive never understood is presence detection. i cant imagine why id want it to try since there are plenty of times (like when people are sleeping) that no one would trigger presence detection and those are specifically the times i wouldnt want temperature changes. it helps that my house is seldom unoccupied and that my wife and i work opposite schedules but i cant see a use case for it at all for anyone The Management posted:a thermostat designed like a big temperature adjustment dial whose primary feature is that it sets the temperature for you automatically. Google. yes? i mean you can poo poo on google for a lot of things but the design does predate them buying nest and the design is good and intuitive. any idiot knows exactly how it works just by looking at it and in terms of hardware it feels incredibly satisfying to use physically. id put it right up there with a macbook trackpad for tactile feel and precision (though i doubt id say that about this new one that uses a touch sensor rather than physical rotation and plastic rather than metal). even though it does do most stuff automatically i still find myself bumping it a couple degrees one way or the other throughout the day and how easy it is to do that matters
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nest took off because it looked nice and people with $4 million palo alto bungalows hated having to look at taupe plastic wall boxes all the smart features and everything were secondary, it was the first non-ugly thermostat
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qirex posted:nest took off because it looked nice and people with $4 million palo alto bungalows hated having to look at taupe plastic wall boxes afaict its still the only non ugly thermostat
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LastInLine posted:afaict its still the only non ugly thermostat ecobees dont look too bad imo
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The auto-away stuff doesn't activate at night, iirc? Otherwise that'd be stupid. But it does activate during the day if nobody walks in front of the thermostat for a while. Real pleasant when it decides to do that in a hot summer day and it immediately starts rising above 80F+.
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qirex posted:nest took off because it looked nice and people with $4 million palo alto bungalows hated having to look at taupe plastic wall boxes nest literally exists because Tony Fadell wanted his Tahoe cabin to be warm when he arrived there.
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The Management posted:nest literally exists because Tony Fadell wanted his Tahoe cabin to be warm when he arrived there. and they say rich people don't give the world anything
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I have a carrier thermostat and it's fuckin' ugly as poo poo and it took me awhile to learn exactly how it actually works and I tell people "dont touch the thermostat, it's on a schedule, let me override it for you" I feel that I've invested so much time into learning it that I don't want to throw that away by getting something easier. And it stops people from messing with the thermostat.
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it will do it with geofencing and the app on your phone, more reliable than the motion sensor especially if its in a place you don't walk by frequently. can also couple with the motion sensors in their fire alarms to use those as more datapoints
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Zamujasa posted:The auto-away stuff doesn't activate at night, iirc? Otherwise that'd be stupid. But it does activate during the day if nobody walks in front of the thermostat for a while. i work at night and sleep during the day so iow its exactly the opposite of what i need BangersInMyKnickers posted:it will do it with geofencing and the app on your phone, more reliable than the motion sensor especially if its in a place you don't walk by frequently. can also couple with the motion sensors in their fire alarms to use those as more datapoints obviously using a phone is the best kind of presence detection but then you dont need it on the thermostat itself which i know it at least used to do in some form. like Zamujasa mentions above ive seen it do it if you choose not to walk in front of it for long enough. that mightve all been changed with the recent switch to google assistant presence detection and the shutdown of works with nest presence detection which always sucked mediaphage posted:ecobees dont look too bad imo lol no they look terrible its a dumb misshapen black blob and the nicest thing you can say is that the temperature font is unoffensive but the iconography and touch controls look like something out of a toyota that said its certainly a better smart thermostat than the nest in every way except aesthetically
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ok but the comparison wasn't the nest so much as every other thermostat out there which are uniformly terrible looking for the most part
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mediaphage posted:ok but the comparison wasn't the nest so much as every other thermostat out there which are uniformly terrible looking for the most part i mean its just objectively ugly but on the advice of this post i went and looked at what other thermostats look like and okay you might have a point there
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Imagine paying a kilodollar+ for a phone which not only has phone app ads but also slaps them on exported photos. Android,  
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what the gently caress is going on with that photo, it seemingly added jpeg artifacting in some parts of the image. is this what the an droid ai camera does now?
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Anne Frank Funk posted:what the gently caress is going on with that photo, it seemingly added jpeg artifacting in some parts of the image. The bolter has had the eagle scraped off it too, I think?
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Anne Frank Funk posted:anyway, you can turn that advertising off in settings (anything that needs to be changed in the settings is out of reach of 99% of users) didn’t blackberry do that first
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starbucks hermit posted:I have a carrier thermostat and it's fuckin' ugly as poo poo and it took me awhile to learn exactly how it actually works and I tell people "dont touch the thermostat, it's on a schedule, let me override it for you" I tried to replace the carrier thermostat in my new place and when I took it off the wall I found out it used non standard wiring to communicate with a control box attached to the hvac unit that control box logically ties the thermostat to the normal wiring just utterly pointless
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google decided they didn't have enough chat apps and turned the google pay app into a chat app https://twitter.com/DurvidImel/status/1329158995391737856?s=20
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Endless Mike posted:google decided they didn't have enough chat apps and turned the google pay app into a chat app i mean if you think about it google search is really just a chat app between you and a bunch of seo bots.
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Schadenboner posted:Imagine paying a kilodollar+ for a phone which not only has phone app ads but also slaps them on exported photos. i think that’s a sub $200 phone so only the poors get camera ads i guess
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wsl and android, or how microsoft found a way to make even worse apps run on windows
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infernal machines posted:wsl and android, or how microsoft found a way to make even worse apps run on windows hey, there's totally worthwhile apps to make work on windows, like
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apple: hey you can run ios apps on our new macs users: oh poo poo now nobody will write mac apps microsoft: oh poo poo we need to become android
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The best developers write their apps in Electron, then it can run anywhere.
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infernal machines posted:wsl and android, or how microsoft found a way to make even worse apps run on windows well, as wsl was originally project astoria, android compatibility for windows phone 10, and only got dumped out as generic linux compatibility on windows 10 when that project was cancelled, this is nice and circular.
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Schadenboner posted:I thought WSL2 was cool & good, though? i certainly think so. strategically for microsoft it seems pretty all over the place to run random other platforms applications, but for user convenience wsl2 linux is great, and i suspect a lot of people will find some use running one weird android app or other as well.
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Cybernetic Vermin posted:yeah. it actually might be a bit of a reaction to their catastrophic foray into (barely) running actual android on whatever their foldable was called. imo the biggest problem with the surface duo is that it’s a pda and not a phone and they were unwilling to market it like that. for that matter i dunno if there’s a market for that these days since people can just buy tablets. tbh i kind of want one but lol $
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YOSPOS › Andoird: nothing about it runs well or is properly designed for the form factor, and then you have the usual android jank under that
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