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dead gay comedy forums
Oct 21, 2011


gradenko_2000 posted:

I watch a lot of retro computing videos and it kinda makes me sad thinking about the different ways computing could have gone under a Soviet system

buddy, as a former econ student, now computer-touching student and socialist revolutionary, this subject can leave you screaming in resentment and injustice

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i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

dead gay comedy forums posted:

this is my dumbass self realizing the existence of this thread

the thread title has to be dumb and obscure enough for people to stay the gently caress out

dex_sda
Oct 11, 2012


a spectre is haunting cspam, the spectre of people debating about marxism

Emmideer
Oct 20, 2011

Lovely night, no?
Grimey Drawer
the actual communism megathread for real communists

dead gay comedy forums
Oct 21, 2011


i say swears online posted:

the thread title has to be dumb and obscure enough for people to stay the gently caress out

liberal vegans beware

Truga
May 4, 2014
Lipstick Apathy

gradenko_2000 posted:

I watch a lot of retro computing videos and it kinda makes me sad thinking about the different ways computing could have gone under a Soviet system.

One of the stories I picked up was that back in the day, when we would use cassette tapes for data storage, Yugoslav stations would broadcast simple computer programs over the radio: they'd tell you when to press Record on your machine, you'd press it, and for the next few minutes, you'd be picking up analog data that could be read back by the computer when you played back the tape at a later time.

yeah this is how we got like half of our good C64 games, they were broadcast at night time on radio student (which recently got defunded by our right wing govt lmao)

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES
we might need our own idiot king if suck zone refugees start washing up on our shores

Slanderer
May 6, 2007

GalacticAcid posted:

we might need our own idiot king if suck zone refugees start washing up on our shores

o captain! my captain!

THS
Sep 15, 2017

a world without software licensing would own

Dreylad
Jun 19, 2001

GalacticAcid posted:

we might need our own idiot king if suck zone refugees start washing up on our shores

i believe we can all change, for the better

apropos to nothing
Sep 5, 2003
yes 100% agree that 28 IKs is not enough, cspam needs at least 29 IKs

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES
Every poster an idiot king (but no one wears a crown)

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
I will not accept a mod from the gutter

Algund Eenboom
May 4, 2014

The number of iks in cspam should be... 69 :xd:

A4R8
Feb 28, 2020

GalacticAcid posted:

we might need our own idiot king if suck zone refugees start washing up on our shores

what use are idiot kings if trots are allowed to post here whining about cspam ad nauseam

Emmideer
Oct 20, 2011

Lovely night, no?
Grimey Drawer
it's okay, complaining about cspam is part of the struggle session

A4R8
Feb 28, 2020
https://twitter.com/benjaminnorton/status/1328203150130618369?s=21

apropos to nothing
Sep 5, 2003

A4R8 posted:

what use are idiot kings if trots are allowed to post here whining about cspam ad nauseam

Victory Position
Mar 16, 2004

A4R8 posted:

what use are idiot kings if trots are allowed to post here whining about cspam ad nauseam

dex_sda
Oct 11, 2012


T-man
Aug 22, 2010


Talk shit, get bzzzt.

A4R8 posted:

what use are idiot kings if trots are allowed to post here whining about cspam ad nauseam

Don't worry, we'll keep you around. :sympathy:

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


GalacticAcid posted:

Every poster an idiot king (but no one wears a crown)

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Mr. Lobe posted:

I wonder what the bitrate is on an AM/FM radio broadcast. WiFi is not that different in sampling frequency, and that can carry gigabits of data. I'd imagine transmission quality would be a major issue. But I'm no engineer, I'm just speculating here.

I'm not a radio engineer and all my experience is with digital systems but afaik bitrate scales with signal quality and the algorithm used. Some are really good at dealing with bad transmission conditions and some are really horrible at it. like our digital UHF link for aircraft was basically perfect as long as the plane was in line of sight to the air base, but the handheld digital radios were encrypted and had absolute garbage quality because of it, it needed really clear signal to be able to decode anything so even minor stuff like being around a building from the other unit would gently caress it up. we had a handheld radio we were supposed to take with us if we left the command post but you'd lose viable signal about 30 feet outside the vault since it was shielded lol.

T-man
Aug 22, 2010


Talk shit, get bzzzt.

Cspam: yelling incoherently into the void gets the best bitrates

Dreylad
Jun 19, 2001

GalacticAcid posted:

Every poster an idiot king (but no one wears a crown)

The Share Our Posts Program

dead gay comedy forums
Oct 21, 2011



the most insane thing for me, having seen assistance lines and emergency relief programs here in South America, is the fact that all these people are still in cars

I legit have difficulty parsing that

Emmideer
Oct 20, 2011

Lovely night, no?
Grimey Drawer
The sheer scale we design our cities at with the specific idea that it's okay if everything is spread out because you can just drive there yourself is wild, yeah. Makes logistics unnecessarily complex.

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
It's not that crazy to me because I'm rural but it is funny to remember that my closest store is 3 miles away and that's normal, but it's also normal in like Sacramento lol

Victory Position
Mar 16, 2004

Jon Joe posted:

The sheer scale we design our cities at with the specific idea that it's okay if everything is spread out because you can just drive there yourself is wild, yeah. Makes logistics unnecessarily complex.

Chicagoland is basically 100x100 miles of poo poo completely spread out, 150x150 miles if you want to add the exurbs nowadays

that is an enormous amount of space to consider when and where everything is up to date or completely broken down and so on

ToxicAcne
May 25, 2014
I'd reccomend Bookchin and Harvey when it comes to this problem. North American Metropolitan Areas are the physical embodiment of Capitalist alienation. The scary thing is that most people I know are completely ok with it, even my lefty zoomer friends.

croup coughfield
Apr 8, 2020
Probation
Can't post for 86 days!
I heard the MCP-OC dissolved. I wonder if they lost their budget with the new administration.

Fleetwood
Mar 26, 2010


biggest hochul head in china

Subjunctive posted:

Hope this is an OK thread to ask this in!

My daughter and I want to read some theory together this winter. She's a precocious 13-yo and I'm a high-school-diploma-toting PMC recovering liberal without any real political education, plus attention/focus issues, so we're probably at about the same level in terms of the material we're up for.
...

Any suggestions for things we should consider? Would love to put some leftist writing under the tree this Christmas, especially if I can get her centrist extended family to put it there.

I'm reading Understanding Marxism by Richard Wolff. It's 100 pages and super accessible

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

The Biden victory scientifically showed the correctness of BA's new synthesis, so every other org and party is shutting down and merging with the RCP.

uncop
Oct 23, 2010

croup coughfield posted:

I heard the MCP-OC dissolved. I wonder if they lost their budget with the new administration.

Their stuff on the web is definitely pulled down. I would optimistically assume some kind of reorganization like the Red Guards did, because their mass orgs are still online. This atmosphere of political and economic crisis must have caused serious leadership struggles: potential feels limitless but actual progress feels stifled, so someone has to be loving up. Or something like that. But no way are the actual people gonna be quitting right now, it must be the time of their lives.

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

what did red guards do

uncop
Oct 23, 2010
I'm referring to when they disbanded like years ago and just came back under a different name and structure. The motivation for that "Red Guards" was too public and visible to function as an actual revolutionary org, and the new one (CR-CPUSA) is an underground network with no location or official membership whatsoever to contact. It (at least in theory) only recruits through personal connections from the above-board mass organisations.

MCP-OC has always suffered from that exact same problem, and they've obviously had to struggle over it. They've had an opportunist section in leadership that basically said that it's OK to have a facebook page because they were going to stay above board and focus on non-illegal aid efforts. They also seem to have had a section that was in favor of following the organisational examples of third world maoist movements that engage in complex compartmentalisation and obfuscation of their organisations, like in the Philippines. I assume the treatment that the state has given pure aid organizations like jail support swept the rug from under the opportunists' legs and got everyone behind a restructuring into an underground network. If MCP-OC had collapsed or unamicably split, I imagine we would be seeing a lot of drama online right now.

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

i say swears online posted:

what did red guards do

earn their federal pay

lumpentroll
Mar 4, 2020

lumpentroll
Mar 4, 2020

GalacticAcid posted:

we might need our own idiot king if suck zone refugees start washing up on our shores

larry IMO

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gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

Raskolnikov38 posted:

earn their federal pay

PPP loans dried up

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