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Fumaofthelake posted:These days it’s honestly kind of quaint that Pee Wee got in so much trouble for jerking off in the jerk off theater I didn't even know he had been in trouble with the law before the child porn lawsuit. Oh no I voted for Brexit because I'm a huge racist but apparently it wasn't about that oh nooo?!? 3D Megadoodoo has issued a correction as of 14:44 on Dec 29, 2020 |
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Dec 29, 2020 14:42
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Epic High Five posted:If you work for a living you are working class. So the sales guys making double what I make are working class? OK.
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Dec 29, 2020 14:45
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Why didn’t the interviewer ask him why on earth he thought that Brexit would include market access?
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Dec 29, 2020 15:06
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3D Megadoodoo posted:So the sales guys making double what I make are working class? OK. yeah the guys who actually own the company make 10-100x what the sales guys do.
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Dec 29, 2020 15:09
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That's the stuff.
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Dec 29, 2020 15:11
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Brain Curry posted:yeah the guys who actually own the company make 10-100x what the sales guys do. Somehow I still don't think a definition of working class that includes people who can easily afford to (and do) become landlords is very useful.
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Dec 29, 2020 15:13
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Epic High Five posted:Kim got her start being rich as gently caress And selling Black beauty standards as her own idea to white girls. Snowglobe of Doom posted:I'd guess that the OnlyFans market is currently super competitive and flooded with hardcore content and anyone who stuck to softcore would lose their market share pretty quickly. Eh, there are women who can make a living doing softcore behind an onlyfans. As far as I know, Jessica Nigri is a cosplayer who makes a living selling anime cheesecake and she hasn't had to take a dick on camera yet.
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Dec 29, 2020 15:15
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3D Megadoodoo posted:Somehow I still don't think a definition of working class that includes people who can easily afford to (and do) become landlords is very useful. I could easily afford to become a landlord and I spent most of yesterday walking through the cold and snow to deliver mail. Am I not a worker?
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Dec 29, 2020 15:16
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3D Megadoodoo posted:So the sales guys making double what I make are working class? OK. Do they gain a living through their wage, or do they gain a living through ownership? Do they need to work to pay their bills? The answer is yes, they are workers, and people who make more than you are *still exploited* by ownership pocketing their surplus.
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Dec 29, 2020 15:16
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Brain Curry posted:yeah the guys who actually own the company make 10-100x what the sales guys do. Pretty much. Reminds me of that Chris Rock Joke. Lebron James is Rich. The owner of the Lakers is wealthy.
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Dec 29, 2020 15:18
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What vast global market did this old gently caress think there was for these horrible disgusting creatures he's selling? He literally found the one country on the planet that, due to whatever national trauma, are willing to import these nightmare things for food and he happily voted to close off that market.
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Dec 29, 2020 15:21
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Zeroisanumber posted:I could easily afford to become a landlord and I spent most of yesterday walking through the cold and snow to deliver mail. Am I not a worker? You know what, I don't even know. Apartments here cost around 4000 €/m² (+ upkeep fees of on average around 4€/m² a month, but that isn't very useful when some housing corporations have huge debt and others don't so you also might have to pay that off every month) and a mail carrier makes under 2700€*. Someone who has a functioning brain can do the math. *) Before taxes etc. Let's say 1900€ net. 3D Megadoodoo has issued a correction as of 15:29 on Dec 29, 2020 |
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Dec 29, 2020 15:23
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lynch_69 posted:What vast global market did this old gently caress think there was for these horrible disgusting creatures he's selling? He literally found the one country on the planet that, due to whatever national trauma, are willing to import these things for food and he happily voted to close off that market. The UK (and England specifically) seem to be under this continued delusion that Europe and the rest of the world need them way more than they do. The assumption was that they'd Brexit and then negotiate full market access agreements before it took effect. They figured they'd have both the markets and their precious racisms because who could live without the UK's market?
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Dec 29, 2020 15:25
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3D Megadoodoo posted:You know what, I don't even know. Apartments here cost around 4000 €/m² (+ upkeep fees of on average around 4€/m² a month, but that isn't very useful when some housing corporations have huge debt and others don't so you also might have to pay that off every month) and a mail carrier makes under 2700€. Someone who has a functioning brain can do the math. You're not counting overtime in that equation. Here in the US a mail carrier tops out at about $65k/year but with overtime that can easily stretch above $100k. If I wanted to I could become a duplex tyrant with a little bit of effort.
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Dec 29, 2020 15:29
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Zeroisanumber posted:You're not counting overtime in that equation. Here in the US a mail carrier tops out at about $65k/year but with overtime that can easily stretch above $100k. If I wanted to I could become a duplex tyrant with a little bit of effort. The "under 2700€" includes overtime etc, it's the average actual pay. Union pay for full-time work is under 2000€ before taxes. Also they've been cutting hours, not increasing them. (No mail on Tuesdays.) e: I don't actually know if they managed the "union-shopping" plot to lower it to around 1500€. I'd check but it might depress me too much. 3D Megadoodoo has issued a correction as of 15:35 on Dec 29, 2020 |
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Dec 29, 2020 15:32
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Forceholy posted:Pretty much. Reminds me of that Chris Rock Joke. Lebron James is also wealthy. He makes $50 million a year through the ownership of "Lebron James" as a brand.
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Dec 29, 2020 15:37
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3D Megadoodoo posted:The "under 2700€" includes overtime etc, it's the average actual pay. Union pay for full-time work is under 2000€ before taxes. Also they've been cutting hours, not increasing them. (No mail on Tuesdays.) A month? They're getting robbed.
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Dec 29, 2020 15:43
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lol owned
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Dec 29, 2020 15:53
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3D Megadoodoo posted:I didn't even know he had been in trouble with the law before the child porn lawsuit. How could he have known a plan which involves nullifying all existing EU Zone trade agreements would impact his disgusting slimy eel business?
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Dec 29, 2020 15:55
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in any time, in any place, small business owners are always a bunch of dipshits with overinflated egos who will gently caress their business, and by extension the livelyhood of their employees over if it means making themselves feel good then whine about it
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Dec 29, 2020 15:57
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eels are a kind of fish and now england gets to keep them all, so mission accomplished i guess
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Dec 29, 2020 15:58
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maybe the royal navy can send a very small boat to protect this guy's eel tanks if it doesn't fit in the tank they can park it in a trailer outside
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Dec 29, 2020 15:59
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3D Megadoodoo posted:So the sales guys making double what I make are working class? OK. Yep! Just like you still have more in common with a gig worker making half of what you do than you do with the CEO 3D Megadoodoo posted:Somehow I still don't think a definition of working class that includes people who can easily afford to (and do) become landlords is very useful. you see if someone is deriving their income from being a landlord they are not working class, because other people are earning their income for them, like I said. If they still work but also have investment properties they are petit, the fun gray area where they cannot be relied upon to have any solidarity with workers but also if they stop working they will in all probability suffer enormously for it, a trait of the working class Any more though, I would say this only really comes up in the form of someone renting a room out of their home or splitting their home into a smaller home and an apartment as an additional income stream, which is a very different proposition than the investment landlord as we imagine them. Dunno what property values are in your area but around here you aren't owning homes you don't live in if you didn't enter the market rich already, be it from existing productive capital or from generational wealth Whenever people talk about how Buffett is some kind of ethical billionaire because he lives in a normie ranch house, I like to point out that he owns half the homes that previously would've been starter homes in our own city lol
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Dec 29, 2020 16:05
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etalian posted:How could he have known a plan which involves nullifying all existing EU Zone trade agreements would impact his disgusting slimy eel business? Brexit was marketed as "now you can punch Polish workers and murder Pakistani workers, with impunity".
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Dec 29, 2020 16:32
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3D Megadoodoo posted:Brexit was marketed as "now you can punch Polish workers and murder Pakistani workers, with impunity". Yes to Brexit: Foreigners are outlaws Zeroisanumber posted:The UK (and England specifically) seem to be under this continued delusion that Europe and the rest of the world need them way more than they do. The assumption was that they'd Brexit and then negotiate full market access agreements before it took effect. They figured they'd have both the markets and their precious racisms because who could live without the UK's market? 3D Megadoodoo posted:Somehow I still don't think a definition of working class that includes people who can easily afford to (and do) become landlords is very useful. You yourself even point out the actual issue, landlordism. It's not that they have money, it's that they have housing they can use to demand labor from other workers. Epic High Five posted:you see if someone is deriving their income from being a landlord they are not working class, because other people are earning their income for them, like I said. If they still work but also have investment properties they are petit, the fun gray area where they cannot be relied upon to have any solidarity with workers but also if they stop working they will in all probability suffer enormously for it, a trait of the working class Which is not to say that you're supposed to be crying for "mom and pop" landlords or whatever, but I think it illustrates the point. Even those fuckers get hosed by capitalists, another worker making twice as much as you is not fundamentally different from you.
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Dec 29, 2020 16:47
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Forceholy posted:Pretty much. Reminds me of that Chris Rock Joke. I understand the point of this joke (which was about Michael Jordan not Lebron James), but it's massively underestimating how wealthy top athletes are. Michael Jordan is a billionaire worth slightly more than Jerry Reinsdorf, the owner of the Bulls. LeBron isn't a billionaire yet - though he will be by the time he's 50 - but he is also worth about the same amount as the owner of the Lakers. 3D Megadoodoo posted:So the sales guys making double what I make are working class? OK. This is hilarious. "Working class" = exactly what I make, no more no less!
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Dec 29, 2020 17:11
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TastyAvocado posted:
It's also a widespread, insidious, and very effectively demotivating idea. After all, why should you feel solidarity with that guy, his house is bigger than yours!
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Dec 29, 2020 17:19
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TastyAvocado posted:I understand the point of this joke (which was about Michael Jordan not Lebron James), but it's massively underestimating how wealthy top athletes are. Michael Jordan is a billionaire worth slightly more than Jerry Reinsdorf, the owner of the Bulls. LeBron isn't a billionaire yet - though he will be by the time he's 50 - but he is also worth about the same amount as the owner of the Lakers. Actually it was about Shaq! 
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Dec 29, 2020 17:30
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https://www.npr.org/2020/12/28/950861977/toxic-individualism-pandemic-politics-driving-health-care-workers-from-small-tow3D Megadoodoo posted:So the sales guys making double what I make are working class? OK. yes, dipshit
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Dec 29, 2020 17:31
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TastyAvocado posted:This is hilarious. "Working class" = exactly what I make, no more no less! I wouldn't presume to speak for 3DMD, but I think this is a fairly easy to fall into ideological trap what with a 60k salary getting you two very different living conditions in Attleborough, MA and I don't know, whatever part of CA "Silicon Valley" is these days. I tend to personally try and frame things in a "working class" vs "make work" roles - roles whose sole purpose within a company is to create what have been called "bullshit jobs" - explained in the titular essay by the same name: quote:Yes, we have witnessed the creation of an endless variety of new jobs and industries since the '20s, but very few have anything to do with the production and distribution of sushi, iPhones, or fancy sneakers.So what are these new jobs, precisely? A recent report comparing employment in the US between 1910 and 2000 gives us a clear picture (and I note, one pretty much exactly echoed in the UK). Over the course of the last century, the number of workers employed as domestic servants, in industry, and in the farm sector has collapsed dramatically. At the same time, ‘professional, managerial, clerical, sales, and service workers’ tripled, growing ‘from one-quarter to three-quarters of total employment.’ In other words, productive jobs have, just as predicted, been largely automated away (even if you count industrial workers globally, including the toiling masses in India and China, such workers are still not nearly so large a percentage of the world population as they used to be.) And, to be clear, the bullshit job workers themselves aren't the target of my disdain - the grudge is with the entire class of business operations that created said job - Directors of We're Not Actualizing a 5% YOY ROG That Doesn't Have The Technical Skills to User PowerBI to Create Reports But Can Ask Someone to Make Them So They Can Tell the Other Directors That We're Not Actualizing a 5% YOY ROG So We Should Hire More Sales People, and so on who, without the workers they've made underneath them would be as helpless as a newborn babe.
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Dec 29, 2020 17:40
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Cup Runneth Over posted:https://www.npr.org/2020/12/28/950861977/toxic-individualism-pandemic-politics-driving-health-care-workers-from-small-tow lol i like how that article is about that person quitting their healthcare job because they're getting death threats and poo poo about wearing masks for the fake virus, but that at the end they reveal that no, they aren't gonna move away
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Dec 29, 2020 17:41
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Epic High Five posted:Actually it was about Shaq! drat... well he's loving loaded too!
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Dec 29, 2020 17:43
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H.P. Hovercraft posted:lol i like how that article is about that person quitting their healthcare job because they're getting death threats and poo poo about wearing masks for the fake virus, but that at the end they reveal that no, they aren't gonna move away I assume "small town values" in cases like that means "white people only"
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Dec 29, 2020 17:50
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TastyAvocado posted:This is hilarious. "Working class" = exactly what I make, no more no less! Everyone who makes more money than me is a greedy parasite, and anyone who makes less money than me is lazy parasite. 
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Dec 29, 2020 17:52
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TastyAvocado posted:drat... well he's loving loaded too! i'm pretty sure shaq is somehow physically incapable of turning down any offer to be filmed, which would explain his appearances in Kazaam as well as low budget ads for icy hot and "the general" brand auto insurance
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Dec 29, 2020 17:52
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Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:I assume "small town values" in cases like that means "white people only" Yeah, I've always put that right up there with "you used to be able to leave your doors unlocked around here," which conveniently stops just short of "and then those [insert local scapegoat nonwhite demographic here] started moving in!"
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Dec 29, 2020 17:53
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Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:I assume "small town values" in cases like that means "white people only" they claim that they moved there to instill "community" in their kids, and then were stabbed in the back when they told people to protect their neighbors by wearing masks so yeah probably "i don't want my kids to go to school with black people, like in the city"
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Dec 29, 2020 17:54
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Lib and let die posted:Yeah, I've always put that right up there with "you used to be able to leave your doors unlocked around here," which conveniently stops just short of "and then those [insert local scapegoat nonwhite demographic here] started moving in!" You know that more densely populated areas have higher crime regardless of racial makeup, right?
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Jewel Repetition posted:You know that more densely populated areas have higher crime regardless of racial makeup, right? Yes, of course. More population density = more poverty = more crime, but I wouldn't credit Trump voters with knowing (or caring) about that, who are mostly the kinds of people to wax poetic about how you used to be able to leave your door unlocked in 1950
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