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No one’s mentioned Argentina legalizing abortion yet? Free voluntary abortions up until 14 weeks of gestation. Not just good for Argentinians, but surrounding countries whose women can go to Argentina and avoid domestic clandestine abortions. Although that only benefits certain classes, and not everyone can just easily hop over the border to Mendoza for example
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Squalid posted:Hello What's opportunism?
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Squalid posted:Hello Tell it to the families of the people who were murdered during the coup by the fascist government you supported
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Redczar posted:No one’s mentioned Argentina legalizing abortion yet? Free voluntary abortions up until 14 weeks of gestation. Not just good for Argentinians, but surrounding countries whose women can go to Argentina and avoid domestic clandestine abortions. Although that only benefits certain classes, and not everyone can just easily hop over the border to Mendoza for example It's the best thing that came out of this cursed year. I think in 2-3 years it will serve as an example that the society would not change but saving the life of thousands of women.
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VitalSigns posted:Tell it to the families of the people who were murdered during the coup by the fascist government you supported Are there any statistics on how many the interim government killed?
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adoration for none posted:Kraut just released a video that's the start of a series on the history of México that mainly focuses on how the US and México came to diverge so much in economic development. This is retreading a bit on the discussion we had on why Latin America in general is worse off in economic development than the US - the much greater dependence of the Spanish colonies on Spain, the extreme concentration of power in a landholding Spanish elite, etc. Fair warning though, his pronunciations are mostly rear end. Just finished the video. It was pretty good but he does come off as someone to have a bone to pick with leftists.
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Doctor Jeep posted:kraut is a center-right (at best) youtuber who was a part of the alt-right before getting booted for not being a nazi Yikes.
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Doctor Jeep posted:kraut is a center-right (at best) youtuber who was a part of the alt-right before getting booted for not being a nazi In his videos I generally find it easy to separate his ideological positions from factual information. Sure, he's no BadEmpanada. That being said, I can make a note of his history when posting his links in the future or just stop posting him altogether.
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Any good books or documents that go over how/why Mexico lost the fights for Texas Independence and the Mex-Am War? Did the Kraut video cover it at all?
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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:Any good books or documents that go over how/why Mexico lost the fights for Texas Independence and the Mex-Am War? Yeah the video definitely covers the Mexican American War. If it is detailed enough for you depends on how much you respect Youtube Video Essays.
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Traveller posted:Enrique Paris is the worst gently caress I don’t know where else to put this but just lmao the level of pearl clutching https://twitter.com/spiekles/status/1349888240900304897?s=21
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Chile has the best response to the pandemic!!!!!!!!!!! God drat he is the worst
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Migrating this derail from USPOL to here:Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:The E.U parliament just voted pretty overwhelmingly to recommend that its member states recognize Guaido. I just don't think there is much appetite or room in the world for recognizing Maduro. The E.U. Parliament's non-binding resolution isn't really what matters here. What matters considerably more is that the EU's 27 member states have all said that they do not recognize Guaido as Venezuela's interim president.
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lmao guaido is like the longest running joke you could pull off anyway its going to be depressing when the state department finally succeeds and implements a proper fascist coup and a wave of bloodshed and plunder, then the line out of the mainstream media is going to be "why didnt you support guaido you could have avoided this tut tut"
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Apparently there's a phenomenon of people from Latin American countries coming to the US to get vaccinated, which states are now trying to crack down on:BBC Mundo posted:La vacunación para la covid-19 ha generado un fenómeno que varios estados de EE.UU. han visto como una amenaza: el "turismo de vacunas". America Inc. fucked around with this message at 23:51 on Feb 2, 2021 |
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Can anyone who understand Chile explain how things are faring there? I find it almost creepy hoe the country as on fire in 2019, with several killed protesters, hundreds more injured and missing eyeballs due to police reppression, and then just dropped from the radar. Networks were wringing their hands about Hong Kong protests while just next door people were forcing a new constitution. Here in Brazil human ooze Bolsonaro openly said that he'd crush any local attempts are that kind of protest (he needn't have worried, brazilians only rage when the boss tells them to). I understand that Covid ate the lion's share of every coverage, but the few bits I have seen about Chile have the government bungling that as well.
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I wasn’t going write anything hoping an actual Chilean would answer, but it’s been awhile, so I’ll give my account, but yeah, immigrant-in-Chile warning, take that as you will. A lot of the in-street protesting died down due to three reasons. Firstly, COVID, and the various restrictions that it brought with it. Second is fatigue. Every week since the big million-person march there were less people going to Plaza Dignidad, although there are always still some number there on Fridays. Thirdly, when the plebiscite resulted in Apruebo a lot of the discussion shifted from national discourse to local, and therefore it’s not as easy to notice. Instead of a national plebiscite, we have to choose our local representatives for the Constitutional Convention, which is not quite as sexy as the previous vote. The main discussions relating to that are mainly laughing/worrying that the right are putting Nazis onto their lists, and memes about how everyone wanted independent candidates, but complain that they don’t recognize any candidates due to that. There are still flareups at times. In the past week there has been protests due to the police killing a street performer during an identity control. So, there is still tension in the population, but it’s mostly limited to discussion more than active protest. Without an opposition with a spine, and another year and a half of Piñera’s mandate, there isn’t really too much people can realistically do to speed up change. In regards to COVID, like many other countries the government has prioritized the economy over people. Certain parts of Santiago at times have looked as crowded as they did before the pandemic. The metro is still packed with people during rush hours, things like that. The government has also been resistant to all types of criticism, but again this is not just some Chilean thing, most places seem to be like this. The positive is that things look very good here in regards to the vaccine. This article does a nice review of what is happening in regards to the Estallido social, pandemic, and vaccines. Edit: lol the day I say not as many protests are happening, someone decided for the first time in ages to burn a barricade right outside my apartment Redczar fucked around with this message at 00:40 on Feb 13, 2021 |
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Good news everyone! The OAS is gonna save democracy yet another time! https://twitter.com/KawsachunNews/status/1360412570050560001 As the left-wing candidate easily won all across country, the second and third placed candidates and the OAS agreed to "revise" 100% of the vote in one province, and 50% in all others to make sure the evil socialists didn't do an electoral fraud in an election ran by the current right-wing government! Maybe they can do a better job than in Bolivia and actually make the coup stick this time! Edit: Meanwhile... https://twitter.com/Ecuador_On_Q/status/1356800944642658311 Spice World War II fucked around with this message at 04:12 on Feb 13, 2021 |
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Spice World War II posted:Good news everyone! The OAS is gonna save democracy yet another time! my understanding is that the recount is primarily about who will face arauz in the runoff election
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Spice World War II posted:Good news everyone! The OAS is gonna save democracy yet another time! "revisar" means "review" rather than "revise" as in change/edit
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Badger of Basra posted:"revisar" means "review" rather than "revise" as in change/edit I am aware of that, and that would be the normal way to go about it, but if you look at the surrounding press statements talking a lot about working together to prevent the return of "the dictatorship" and the fact the same people at the oas had no interest in election integrity just last year in Bolivia, but and that Yaku Perez has been shouting into cameras that there was massive fraud and hr won the election in a landslide I wouldn't hold my breath.... (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Spice World War II posted:I am aware of that, and that would be the normal way to go about it, but if you look at the surrounding press statements talking a lot about working together to prevent the return of "the dictatorship" and the fact the same people at the oas had no interest in election integrity just last year in Bolivia, but and that Yaku Perez has been shouting into cameras that there was massive fraud and hr won the election in a landslide I wouldn't hold my breath.... How the gently caress and why was this probatable? I don't think he was misrepresenting anything, the source put the word 'revision' in air quotes and is clearly (and probably accurately) implying that it's an attempt to gently caress with a valid election https://twitter.com/KawsachunNews/status/1360664223165087759 They also reported pretty well on the bolivian coup, where the OAS/right wing colluded to discredit MAS' legitimate victory. Sampatrick posted:my understanding is that the recount is primarily about who will face arauz in the runoff election Yeah they're trying to throw second place so the right wing business guy gets into the runoff mila kunis fucked around with this message at 21:05 on Feb 14, 2021 |
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mila kunis posted:How the gently caress and why was this probatable? I don't think he was misrepresenting anything, the source put the word 'revision' in air quotes and is clearly (and probably accurately) implying that it's an attempt to gently caress with a valid election just the good ol' US mods looking out for the health of your Latin American discussion 
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Plutonis posted:Carlos Menem died, rest in piss https://twitter.com/ErnestoSeman/status/1361057085165883395
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Ecuador election: Partial recount to decide who faces Andres Arauz So this "recount" is about seeing who gets into the runoff. Arauz failed to get 40%, so there's a runoff in April. The second and third place candidates agreed to a partial recount. Arauz got 32%, so he's the frontrunner, but: quote:
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How accurate is this? https://brujuladigital.net/politica/rafael-quispe-es-sentenciado-a-2-anos-de-carcel-y-denuncia-que-quieren-inhabilitar I can't read Spanish but apparently he was a whistleblower who did his job and is now being punished?
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punk rebel ecks posted:How accurate is this? Faintly concerned he was appointed by Añez, but that's irrelevant to his case
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How much you wanna bet that the author of this obituary doesn't even know where Argentina is on a map? On a separate topic, what does this tweet mean by "Latinamericanizing Latin America"?
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adoration for none posted:How much you wanna bet that the author of this obituary doesn't even know where Argentina is on a map? I'd imagine it refers to the policy/ways the USA treats Latin America, and all those techniques can be treated as "latinamericanization". Essentially making things into a vision of Latin America approved by the US.
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Rust Martialis posted:
lol at you defending yet another latin american coup attempt (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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The only "impartial" observers of the recount process will be fielded by the OAS, no other observers have been mentioned. The head of the CNE is a member of Patchakutik. The same OAS is happy to give press statements with only the second and third place candidate, while at the same time the Patchakutik candidate is shouting from the rooftops that there was massive fraud and that after the review process it will be shown that the first place candidate really only placed third, and that he himself won the election instead. One week after a badly faked video made the rounds that was supposed to show Colombian ELN fighters promising to support Arauz' party made the rounds, the right-wing government now sent their attorney general, announcing they are going to present "secret information" that renews the accusation. https://twitter.com/ernestosamperp/status/1360624151552282624 Even if they don't end up outright manipulating the outcome of the election already during the review, they are making a very obvious play to reaffirm the narrative that Ecuador must be saved from the left-wing dictatorship. Every facebook troll farm seems to constitute election interference in the US, but the actual electoral authorities being happy to conflate a reasonable review with a campaign of baseless fraud claims and actual active interference of the friendly right-wing neighbors is probatable doomposting... Spice World War II fucked around with this message at 19:30 on Feb 15, 2021 |
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Jose posted:lol at you defending yet another latin american coup attempt You're a total waste to engage, and a liar to boot. If you can't respond to the article I posted and point out it's errors, shut the gently caress up. Rust Martialis fucked around with this message at 00:16 on Feb 16, 2021 |
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Spice World War II posted:The only "impartial" observers of the recount process will be fielded by the OAS, no other observers have been mentioned. The head of the CNE is a member of Patchakutik. The same OAS is happy to give press statements with only the second and third place candidate, while at the same time the Patchakutik candidate is shouting from the rooftops that there was massive fraud and that after the review process it will be shown that the first place candidate really only placed third, and that he himself won the election instead. The announced votes from the first round are https://resultados2021.cne.gob.ec/ Andres Arauz - 32.71% Guillermo Lasso - 19.74% Yaku Perez - 19.38% So the second and third place guys have calmly agreed to a recount on a chunk of the vote to resolve a gap of under half a percent as to who got second place, is that your understanding as well? And whoever ends up in second place gets into the runoff in April. This seems to enrage you. I fail to see why. Could you explain further? You also point out that the OAS is happy to give press statements from "only" Lasso and Perez, but that the Patchakutik candidate is claiming he won the election and is being ignored. My problem with your comment is that Perez IS the Patchakutik candidate https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yaku_P%C3%A9rez_Guartambel This seems somewhat confusing to me you seem to be unaware of this fact, saying the OAS happy to quote him while also... not quoting him? https://www.larepublica.ec/blog/2021/02/11/yaku-pide-revisar-votos-6-provincias-supuesto-fraude/ From the linked article Perez seems to be claiming he should be clearly in second place ahead of Lasso, not first overall. It doesn't even hint at supporting your claim that Perez is claiming "massive fraud" or that he won the election outright. Could you post your actual sources (not randos from Twitter or angry Columbian ex-Presidents who aren't even talking about the election results, thanks) that support your claim that Perez is going around claiming he won the election nationally, and that Arauz was third? I can't seem to find any. Rust Martialis fucked around with this message at 11:49 on Feb 16, 2021 |
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Rust Martialis posted:The announced votes from the first round are https://resultados2021.cne.gob.ec/ Yes, of course I am entirely unaware which candidate is which! Here, have a primary source: https://twitter.com/yakuperezg The man's own twitter account. The last 24 hours he is now feuding with Guillermo Lasso, but you can see all the fraud accusation tweets and retweets in his timeline. You can also see that he tried to get the constitutional court to intervene before, which the court declined. "The angry Colombian ex-president" is not talking about the election results, but he is talking about the tried and true tactic of helping your right-wing neighbors by trying to associate the left-wing candidate with, in this case, the ELN guerillas, which, after a not very convincing video recently failed, Colombia is now doing by sending an attorney general with "secret evidence" of such association on a highly publicized mission to Ecuador just before the runoff election. But honestly it's fine, they're probably not gonna outright put Arauz into third place in the recount, and everything else is just terrible coincidence; after all there is no history of reactionary forces ever trying to influence an election against a left-wing candidate in South America. And with Biden having successfully fought off the combined might of all the russian hackers to get elected, the US would never stand for such interference attempts again in their own backyard anyway!
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