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Jezza of OZPOS
Mar 21, 2018

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I swear I'm the only person who hasn't played Diablo 3. I don't really want to either. I spent a lot of time trying to like Diablo 2 while my mates banged on about it being the best game ever so I feel like no matter how much they improved it I would be throwing good money after bad buying 3

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3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

Barudak posted:

Legend of Kyrandia cave mapping wasn't fun????

The mapping was OK, the "well that's all the eight actual puzzles we put in, have fun finding random gems in random locations lollol" bit wasn't fun.

Serephina
Nov 8, 2005

恐竜戦隊
ジュウレンジャー

jokes posted:

There are a lot of normal games that are adult content. Witcher, for example. The filter needs to be pretty specifically tailored to be anti-anime titty.

I truly think they should be their own genre or like a specific tag, there’s a stark difference between them and normal games.

I mean it is? I used to have custom ban tags for 'anime' etc since that crap first popped up when I made an account, but then they changed the mature content filters to split 'nudity' and 'adult only' into two items and I've since removed all tag filters and never seen porn since.

So what I'm saying is that you're basically all perverts.

Meme Poker Party
Sep 1, 2006

by Azathoth
I'm a pervert.

Dandywalken
Feb 11, 2014

Meme Poker Party posted:

I'm a pervert.

Best gtav song

Barudak
May 7, 2007

3D Megadoodoo posted:

The mapping was OK, the "well that's all the eight actual puzzles we put in, have fun finding random gems in random locations lollol" bit wasn't fun.

Oh yeah, thats hot trash, I guess I was just thinking the cave mapping was closer to the two hour mark for me.

Those games loved their potion mixing

Nice Van My Man
Jan 1, 2008

Malcolm Turnbeug posted:

I swear I'm the only person who hasn't played Diablo 3. I don't really want to either. I spent a lot of time trying to like Diablo 2 while my mates banged on about it being the best game ever so I feel like no matter how much they improved it I would be throwing good money after bad buying 3

The only good Diablo was Diablo 1.

Jezza of OZPOS
Mar 21, 2018

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Nice Van My Man posted:

The only good Diablo was Diablo 1.

Its hard to tell when people agree in this thread whether we have the unpopular opinion together or if we are just jerking each other off for no reason but I'm with you on this and while you'd think this would be the basic bitch contrarian standpoint I've never heard anyone say it let alone believe it

I can't even defend it if I'm thinking about it hard. It's like believing in God, you just do it because that's how your brain wired itself 20 years ago and it's expensive to fix that.

Jezza of OZPOS fucked around with this message at 04:09 on Jan 8, 2021

Caesar Saladin
Aug 15, 2004

Malcolm Turnbeug posted:

I swear I'm the only person who hasn't played Diablo 3. I don't really want to either. I spent a lot of time trying to like Diablo 2 while my mates banged on about it being the best game ever so I feel like no matter how much they improved it I would be throwing good money after bad buying 3

diablo 3 is a cool game to play with your buddies on ps4 while taking breaks between runs to hit bongs

its good because you can jump back in like once a year and get a new class set when the seasons change

the console version is awesome, it turns into a cool arcadey game instead of a game of clicking

Waltzing Along
Jun 14, 2008

There's only one
Human race
Many faces
Everybody belongs here
I heard that Diablo 3 became something good after being terrible at launch.

So it is kinda like poo poo that eventually gets turned into fertilizer.

Still poo poo, though.

Jezza of OZPOS
Mar 21, 2018

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Yeah I mean if someone invited me to play it on their couch with a bucket bong I'd give it a red hot go, and frankly it's weird that hasn't happened, being insanely popular and desirable as I am

Ugly In The Morning
Jul 1, 2010
Pillbug
Diablo 3 is great on console and the fact blizzard apparently refuses to port the awesome controller stuff to PC is some real :psyduck: poo poo.

Jezza of OZPOS
Mar 21, 2018

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I guarantee you nobody who still works at blizzard knows how to fix whatever archaic structure holds together the base PC game to do something like that

bob dobbs is dead
Oct 8, 2017

I love peeps
Nap Ghost
the basic root of what is wrong w your favorite videogame sequel lies in the fact that your average studio has higher turnover than some mcdonalds

supergiant has completely avoided this forex, which is why the games are vaguely samey but extremely high quality

Muk Dumpster
Jun 27, 2020


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Id also recommend diablo 3, but ive never played 1 and never installed 2 after buying it 15 years ago

Get it on switch malcolm

Barudak
May 7, 2007

Diablo 3 has been on switch for like 3 years now???

Jezza of OZPOS
Mar 21, 2018

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I sincerely doubt it'll ever get a deep enough discount on switch for me to consider it but tbh I bought overwatch for it the other day so anything is possible

jokes
Dec 20, 2012

Uh... Kupo?

Never play it on PC it is infinitely better with a controller and is just a single player game anyways, best played couch co-op or with a friend or two if multiplayer.

Caesar Saladin
Aug 15, 2004

Malcolm Turnbeug posted:

I sincerely doubt it'll ever get a deep enough discount on switch for me to consider it but tbh I bought overwatch for it the other day so anything is possible

nah don't get a switch, I haven't used mine in like over a year. They don't release games for it.

Phigs
Jan 23, 2019

Malcolm Turnbeug posted:

Its hard to tell when people agree in this thread whether we have the unpopular opinion together or if we are just jerking each other off for no reason but I'm with you on this and while you'd think this would be the basic bitch contrarian standpoint I've never heard anyone say it let alone believe it

I can't even defend it if I'm thinking about it hard. It's like believing in God, you just do it because that's how your brain wired itself 20 years ago and it's expensive to fix that.

I think Diablo 2 is the best but it dropped enough of the Diablo 1 DNA that I could see someone preferring Diablo 1 for sure if that was the stuff they liked most about it.

Jezza of OZPOS
Mar 21, 2018

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Caesar Saladin posted:

nah don't get a switch, I haven't used mine in like over a year. They don't release games for it.

Ah good I was worried you'd said too many things I agreed with itt today. Seems insane to post this a week before Wrestling Empire drops

Nice Van My Man
Jan 1, 2008

To be honest I really doubt I'd be able to stand Diablo 1 now days, but for its time it was a simple game with some cool atmosphere.

I gave Diablo 2 a shot but I just didn't get the appeal at all and quit once I hit the swamp.

Dandywalken
Feb 11, 2014

loving desert area boss turned me off from D2

is pepsi ok
Oct 23, 2002

Quote-Unquote posted:

The Gravis gamepad owned and more controllers should come with a stick you can put in the middle of the d-pad.

:hfive:

That was my first PC gamepad and I got way more use out of that screw in d-pad stick than I thought I would when I bought it. I'm so old I had to get the serial port one because my PC didn't have a USB port :corsair:

Meme Poker Party
Sep 1, 2006

by Azathoth

Dandywalken posted:

loving desert area boss turned me off from D2

Duriel was a legendary (rear end in a top hat) video game boss for many years.


The most important tool in your arsenal against him was not any weapon or spell, but your load time.

Muk Dumpster
Jun 27, 2020


Text Here

Caesar Saladin posted:

nah don't get a switch, I haven't used mine in like over a year. They don't release games for it.

Ymmv son

Duck and Cover
Apr 6, 2007

Meme Poker Party posted:

re: loot bloat, I think a lot of designers just can't discern when it's appropriate to have tiny incremental loot everywhere versus when it's not. For purposes of this post, when I say "loot" I mean usable equipment for the player/party, not grey-text vendor trash.

Like, constantly having piles of poo poo everywhere and hunting for the + 0.5% attack speed increase is fine in something like Diablo, because that's basically all the game is about. You don't do anything in that game except make numbers go up in tiny increments. Nobody gives a poo poo about the story, or characters, or roleplaying. They demand numbers. But it's stupid as gently caress in something like the Witcher, or any Bioware form RPG because it's distracting you from the the poo poo people actually care about in those games. Absolutely nobody is playing the Witcher or Mass Effect or something to hunt for +1 modifiers. They want to see a story, do some roleplaying, and have some combat that hopefully isn't rear end.

I think some clowns just get in their head "people like lots of loot!!!" and have no ability to understand why or where. Like how crafting exploding into every frickin game for no reason for a while.

You can have way too much trash loot in an ARPG. See Path of Exile a game where anyone sane and who knows of filters, uses a filter of varying aggressiveness.

ikanreed
Sep 25, 2009

I honestly I have no idea who cannibal[SIC] is and I do not know why I should know.

syq dude, just syq!

Meme Poker Party posted:

Duriel was a legendary (rear end in a top hat) video game boss for many years.


The most important tool in your arsenal against him was not any weapon or spell, but your load time.

Huh. You're right, there was walk up space padding the way to all the other end of act bosses weren't there?

I guess the devs were worried it'd be too easy to cheese his pure melee design or something.

WILDTURKEY101
Mar 7, 2005

Look to your left. Look to your right. Only one of you is going to pass this course.
I'm trying to play Resident Evil 4 on the switch but I hate it. Why is this game popular? I really, really hate it.

lurker2006
Jul 30, 2019

WILDTURKEY101 posted:

I'm trying to play Resident Evil 4 on the switch but I hate it. Why is this game popular? I really, really hate it.
It came out in a time when nearly every shooter on console had some sort of terrible autolock aiming system, at the time hold L1 aim manually was a revelation.

Barudak
May 7, 2007

WILDTURKEY101 posted:

I'm trying to play Resident Evil 4 on the switch but I hate it. Why is this game popular? I really, really hate it.

What isn't working for you? Its a very specifically designed game, so if your issues are about its stop and pop mechanics you're gonna not enjoy it and can probably stop now

WILDTURKEY101
Mar 7, 2005

Look to your left. Look to your right. Only one of you is going to pass this course.

Barudak posted:

What isn't working for you? Its a very specifically designed game, so if your issues are about its stop and pop mechanics you're gonna not enjoy it and can probably stop now

Everything about the combat is defense. There is no sense of offense at all and I hate it and am going to stop playing.

Phigs
Jan 23, 2019

ikanreed posted:

Huh. You're right, there was walk up space padding the way to all the other end of act bosses weren't there?

I guess the devs were worried it'd be too easy to cheese his pure melee design or something.

Story-wise he's an ambush. You were expecting to get into the tomb and to a chained up Baal before anyone got there but you're too late and Duriel is there to gently caress you up.

"Looking for Baal?" *laughs* *kills you while you load*

You go into the other bosses knowing they or at least someone is there.

Barudak
May 7, 2007

WILDTURKEY101 posted:

Everything about the combat is defense. There is no sense of offense at all and I hate it and am going to stop playing.

Yeah you can stop now. The game is entirely about the interplay of choosing proper positioning and the weapons you have to manage enemies.

I've never heard it described as lack of offense, especially when you throw melee into the mix. Between that, the nasty headshots, your arsenal of body launching weaponry and the grenades you are an absolute powerhouse but its very much a glass cannon game and you will get hurt very badly very quickly if your positioning is off or you get greedy.

ErrEff
Feb 13, 2012

WILDTURKEY101 posted:

Everything about the combat is defense. There is no sense of offense at all and I hate it and am going to stop playing.

It's a survival horror game? RE4's combat is about management of enemies, keeping them at bay and maintaining distance while also moving in for powerful melee attacks when possible.

RPATDO_LAMD
Mar 22, 2013

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ErrEff posted:

It's a survival horror game? RE4's combat is about management of enemies, keeping them at bay and maintaining distance while also moving in for powerful melee attacks when possible.

and that's why it's bad

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

Melée combat in a computer video game is never fun. That's why "Oblivion with guns" was so much better than "Oblivion".

Caesar Saladin
Aug 15, 2004

3D Megadoodoo posted:

Melée combat in a computer video game is never fun. That's why "Oblivion with guns" was so much better than "Oblivion".

thats crazy, there are tons of fun melee games from fighting games to beat em ups to action rpgs

using oblivion as your metric for melee is goofy as hell because its among the worst ever

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

Caesar Saladin posted:

thats crazy, there are tons of fun melee games from fighting games to beat em ups to action rpgs

No there are not. Don't feel obliged to list awful games you like in response to this. "Action RPG" is also the worst thing anyone has ever come up with for entertainment purposes. Yeah, it's worse than Finnish rap.

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Caesar Saladin
Aug 15, 2004

somebody got bodied at street fighter as a child and was never able to get over it

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