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Continuity NIP posted:Yes he is. Born with a parmo in his mouth It's this sort of opportunistic revisionism of history which makes Liverpool afraid to get on board with the NIP.
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what is wrong with your people https://twitter.com/wearetruthers/status/1351227022312435713?s=20
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Nonsense posted:what is wrong with your people How long have you got?
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Nonsense posted:what is wrong with your people ...I confess, I'm too much a coward to click the play button. What is it?
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Samovar posted:...I confess, I'm too much a coward to click the play button. What is it? It's a video by a Jewish group who think you're a conspiracy theorist to suggest there's a political motivation to the organised attack on the Labour left as antisemitic
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V. Illych L. posted:realistically, nothing real is going to get done and we really need to start preparing seriously for the coming deluge Things have been getting done. Just way too slow. Carbon peaked in the west years ago and has been slowly falling. It’s rising fast in China, India and everywhere else in the ‘developing world’. All of them, quite reasonably, aren’t eager to curtail their own economic growth just because the west is now worried after 200 years of callous excess. China does seem to give a poo poo, or at least is saying they do and wants to cap at somewhere between 2025-2030. Probably still too slow. The old 1.5 c rise by 2100 is dead. 2.0-2.5 is the new ‘achievable’ target. Possible yes, likely? Maybe but everything could be lost every American election cycle. Just one insane republican that just expands carbon emitting industries and it’s over. How the gently caress you try to tackle climate change when one of the biggest historical emitters might just go loving bananas every 4 years seems like a nigh impossible task. But you have to try and things are changing. Tiny incremental things. That should have happened decades ago.
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Feb 24, 2021 12:07
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Global revolt against capital is the only solution.
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considering the Democrats will lose Congress in less than two years and the presidency in less than four, we're basically completely hosed
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Regarde Aduck posted:Things have been getting done. Just way too slow. Carbon peaked in the west years ago and has been slowly falling. It’s rising fast in China, India and everywhere else in the ‘developing world’. All of them, quite reasonably, aren’t eager to curtail their own economic growth just because the west is now worried after 200 years of callous excess. China does seem to give a poo poo, or at least is saying they do and wants to cap at somewhere between 2025-2030. Probably still too slow. in the West, candidates promising environmental policies with some level of actual bite have been systematically eating poo poo. corbyn ran on a legitimately impressive environmental platform, sanders had a whole Thing called the Green New Deal, macron and le pen are both awful on environmental stuff etc. germany and sattelites weaning off coal is good, i guess, but this poo poo is never going to get easier/cheaper to do than it is now and we're busy in a holding pattern on one of our three apocalyptic environmental disasters while ignoring the others we're hosed, is what i'm saying
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we're hosed for perfectly understandable reasons for the most part, but we're also getting hosed by the cultists of the Holy Market who take it for granted that their demonic patron will intercede so long as they placate it with sufficient offerings
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It sucks the NIP shot themselves in the foot right out of the gate by making themselves a meme party for a specific region of England I'm actually too far north to vote for them and if I lived where I used to I'd be too far south. So if a new left party does emerge that isn't that there's gonna be a new round of left squabbling
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genericnick posted:Seems like a good idea, let#s do this. Then we can drain the sea over night and march the Grande Armée over to finally enforce metric. Wrong thinking, Britain will be dismantled and crushed for construction material and whatever is left over sold as road building aggregate.
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More left parties is utterly pointless without serious voting reform, unless your aim is to give the Tories a bigger vote share I guess? This is not defeatist, this is just how fptp works. I can applaud the NIP for actually doing something in this hosed system, unfortunately all it will do is give the Tories a bigger share of the vote and entrench them in seats they would not normally have much of a chance in.
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Communist Thoughts posted:It sucks the NIP shot themselves in the foot right out of the gate by making themselves a meme party for a specific region of England The SNP really shot themselves in the foot by not standing in England
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Continuity NIP posted:The SNP really shot themselves in the foot by not standing in England I like the NIPs moxie but Northern independence isn't like... A real political position that could happen. At least the Scots got their vote and spunked it up the wall
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Dravs posted:More left parties is utterly pointless without serious voting reform, unless your aim is to give the Tories a bigger vote share I guess? This is not defeatist, this is just how fptp works. I can applaud the NIP for actually doing something in this hosed system, unfortunately all it will do is give the Tories a bigger share of the vote and entrench them in seats they would not normally have much of a chance in. the brexit party outcome refutes your point however i would concede that unlike the tories, current labour are quite happy to lose elections rather than give an inch to the left so it’s probably a moot point anyway
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We basically live in a one party state and it's easier to just accept that imo
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Jel Shaker posted:the brexit party outcome refutes your point Brexit party had the benefit of 95% of Tory members and the majority of their voters agreeing with them on the need for a hard brexit, huge amounts of free press via Farage and deep pocketed financial backers, none of which a left party would have
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why doesn't Keir want to legalize? it seems like an obvious and winning distinction for Labour to draw between them and the Tories, as an American I'm assuming support for legalization among the population is roughly the same as it is here now (68-75%) https://www.leafie.co.uk/news/keir-starmer-rules-out-relaxing-cannabis-laws/ quote:Sir Keir Starmer, the Labour Party leader delivered disappointing news for proponents of drug law reform this weekend. When asked his thoughts on decriminalising cannabis possession in a television interview, Starmer said “I’ve never subscribed to that view […] it causes huge issues to vulnerable people across the country”. as someone who has lived in a legal weed state since it happened, literally none of the predicted negative effects have come to pass and its been a huge boost to state coffers - most product is taxed 30%+. I don't think (?) there's the same private prison-minority incarceration motivation in the UK, so is it really just because "Keir feels it will hurt vulnerable people"? which people and how?
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ex post facho posted:why doesn't Keir want to legalize? ex post facho posted:it seems like an obvious and winning distinction for Labour to draw between them and the Tories
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the uk is a backwards shithole when it comes to drugs policy, the labour right is very authoritarian even within that context, and he's not just a cop but a super cop like I don't think it's even possible to go for a charitable psychological explanation like "he can't accept that he ruined lots of people lives for no reason", he is explicitly proud of doing it and thinks it was the right thing to do because drugs=crime he is a fascist, and a dimwit e: like how can your argument against legal weed revolve around the harms caused by criminal gangs selling illegal weed unless you're certifiably brain dead
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ex post facho posted:as an American I'm assuming support for legalization among the population is roughly the same as it is here now (68-75%) no, not even close. ex post facho posted:
yeah we have private prisons and serco do all the work involving the public ones anyway, just not to the extent the US does because the US prison system is unique. keir starmer's highest profile job was as head of public prosecutions and his chief concern is that he'd be less able to hurt vulnerable people.
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The people will not vote for something that reduces pain.
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Starmer is an authoritarian to the bone, the labour right are really very right wing
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You can see the shape of his ideology by where he takes his stands. He supports the abolition of the rule of law to allow anyone in a position of authority to commit any crimes. He thinks BLM is nonsense and black people need to respect the police. He won't support cuts to corporation tax.
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Reminder that weed in Holland isn't actually legalized* either, and that the ruling parties don't want to legalize it. *Smoking and buying is decriminalised and not posecuted, if there's anyone who still doesn't know this yet. Growing weed is still fully criminalised and prosecuted. It's a great system.
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There are a few reasons for Labour not being pro-legalisation right now 1. Historically the early Labour party had a big Methodist element who preached sobriety, and while that's no longer the case it's still a cultural thing thing that the Labour party is quite "austere" and not really about fun things. You still see this with some of the older union types who don't treat things like weed legalisation as "serious" politics. 2. Legalisation of weed as a cultural thing is not such a big deal here, partly because the penalities are not so severe (it is defacto decriminalised in a lot of counties because the police have said they will not investigate for possession) 3. Labour is trying to appeal primarily to older white men who traditionally don't use drugs and consider weed smoking to be the domain of young thugs 4. When Labour was last in power they ran on a big law and order platform, part of which was insanely tough drug policy (against expert advice) and a lot of those people are still in the party
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If Rupert Murdoch was in favour of legal weed a law would be passed by the weekend.
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how long will it take until all boomers are dead and we can finally have legal loving weed jesus loving christ
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oliwan posted:how long will it take until all boomers are dead and we can finally have legal loving weed jesus loving christ imo its the british ruling class that are the problem and they aren't gonna simply go away, its only a very small number of people but they reproduce their class and hold to power very effectively, by the time we're 90 we're gonna be dealing with Mogg's 7 MP children
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Mogg isn’t even a proper boomer and is young enough that I look forward to him and his spawn being MPs at the same time.
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Do British boomers still have a thing about 'youths' wearing 'hoodies'? I vaguely remember that from trips there like 10 years ago.
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Does anyone in UK suffer back problems? I got a lovely TENS belt from Lidl and it's the best thing for alleviating muscle tension, does anyone know what's a good medical grade option available. I used to work with someone who had a TENs machine surgically implanted inside them, I was too scared to ask any further details.
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mrmcd posted:Do British boomers still have a thing about 'youths' wearing 'hoodies'? I vaguely remember that from trips there like 10 years ago. Hoods are only acceptable on raincoats and/or workwear. Anyone wearing a hooded jumper with the hood up is viewed like the sewer people in destruction man.
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mrmcd posted:Do British boomers still have a thing about 'youths' wearing 'hoodies'? I vaguely remember that from trips there like 10 years ago. Absolutely. I've moved to a more working class part of town and everyone over the age of 40 has spun hysterics about quadlocking my doors and buying a dog to keep out hoodie'd chavs. Me Da just about poo poo himself every time we passed the corner shops and some kids in hoodies were hanging around doing... nothing. SteelMentor has issued a correction as of 17:23 on Feb 24, 2021 |
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