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I was actually pretty surprised Mutoh retained. I mean I'm just getting into NOAH now so I'm not that familiar with their booking but having Kaito lose after Mutoh's "lmao he'll be easy to beat" comments just makes their up and coming superstar look like a chump?
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# ? Mar 14, 2021 20:31 |
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the only thing I can think is that they want to have Mutoh and Jun as champs at the supershow, which feels like a mistake but a mistake I could see someone making.
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# ? Mar 14, 2021 20:43 |
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Lamuella posted:the only thing I can think is that they want to have Mutoh and Jun as champs at the supershow, which feels like a mistake but a mistake I could see someone making. This seems like something a company that's desperate to sell tickets would do, but, like. They don't have to be. They have the big money backing now! They don't have to do this! So weird.
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# ? Mar 14, 2021 21:04 |
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Is there any indication that putting the belt on Mutoh has increased interest in NOAH?
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# ? Mar 14, 2021 21:23 |
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I read in the Observer that NOAh was looking at Mutoh to increase overseas viewers but that seems...misguided at this point in his career. And even if you wanted him to have a longer run having him beat Kaito is just a head scratcher too
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# ? Mar 14, 2021 21:26 |
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Extended him for two years so he can be champ for half of it
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# ? Mar 14, 2021 21:28 |
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Hellblazer187 posted:Is there any indication that putting the belt on Mutoh has increased interest in NOAH? Someone said there were more people watching on Abema last night than for Go vs. Sugiura.
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# ? Mar 14, 2021 21:28 |
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Pylons posted:Someone said there were more people watching on Abema last night than for Go vs. Sugiura. And to be fair, I was a first time NOAH watcher last night but it was because I thought Kiyomiya was gonna win the belt.
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# ? Mar 14, 2021 21:32 |
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How many new people got into NOAH because they heard that Go was having this awesome reign, only for them to put the belt on dinosaur-rear end Mutoh and immediately kill that person's interest? *raises hand*
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# ? Mar 14, 2021 22:09 |
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forkboy84 posted:The faction stuff is really quite straightforward. There's one big heel faction, at present RED (stands for Real Extreme Diffusion), it's been around since 2018, Eita is the top guy. It's a continuation of ANTIAS (which was only around for about 6 months), which in turn was a continuation of VerserK. Y'all gonna stand for this Natural Vibes erasure? Kzy and his dancing weed men group is the only Dragon Gate unit powerful enough to be reanimated after disbanding, albeit trading YASSHI for gamer boy U-T is a downgrade in the vibes department. Ditching Punch was great tho.
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# ? Mar 14, 2021 22:11 |
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Benne posted:How many new people got into NOAH because they heard that Go was having this awesome reign, only for them to put the belt on dinosaur-rear end Mutoh and immediately kill that person's interest? Fortunately I can't lose interest in a company that has Nakajima & Kenoh & Sugiura & Kiyomiya & Inamura & Harada & Hajime & Kotoge & Yoshioka & Suzuki & Ogawa. Still seems like a big step back & way to lose that momentum from 2020. Tonfa posted:Y'all gonna stand for this Natural Vibes erasure? Kzy and his dancing weed men group is the only Dragon Gate unit that was reanimated after disbanding, albeit trading YASSHI for gamer boy U-T is a downgrade in the vibes department. Ditching Punch was great tho. Oh god, I am so mad at myself for forgetting Natural Vibes. It's got Kzy, it's got U-T, it's got Genki, it's got Susumu, it's got the dancing, Natural Vibes is my favourite stable. I do wonder what YASSHI did to get sent back to the purgatory of Secret Base.
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# ? Mar 14, 2021 22:14 |
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forkboy84 posted:I do wonder what YASSHI did to get sent back to the purgatory of Secret Base. He left at the start of the pandemic so it was probably a Dove Pro or DG, choose one type of deal while COVID rages and he has a much bigger role in Dove Pro.
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# ? Mar 14, 2021 22:19 |
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Benne posted:How many new people got into NOAH because they heard that Go was having this awesome reign, only for them to put the belt on dinosaur-rear end Mutoh and immediately kill that person's interest? Seems like you should have done some research into this NOAH promotion if you didn't want to watch a company with a history of old broken down guys hanging around on top.
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# ? Mar 14, 2021 22:20 |
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Benne posted:How many new people got into NOAH because they heard that Go was having this awesome reign, only for them to put the belt on dinosaur-rear end Mutoh and immediately kill that person's interest? To be fair, the undercard is usually very good. Kongo are a great faction, especially Nakajima, and Marafuji is always fun to watch.
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# ? Mar 14, 2021 22:22 |
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Hellblazer187 posted:Is there any indication that putting the belt on Mutoh has increased interest in NOAH? Coupled to that Abema stuff; their Budokan attendance was 4,196 which was over 1,000 more than the New Japan Anniversary show and 800 more than Stardom's Budokan show; the show today was their highest Fukuoka attendance in at least six years: and that's taking you back to when promotions were claiming 2,000 in Hakata Star Lanes only to conveniently drop to 1,000 at most (and in NOAHs case half that usually) when they started announcing real attendances so its probably longer. So yes; there is evidence that shows that Mutoh's presence on top is leading to increased business for them.
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# ? Mar 14, 2021 22:35 |
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MassRafTer posted:Seems like you should have done some research into this NOAH promotion if you didn't want to watch a company with a history of old broken down guys hanging around on top. Reverting back to the boat made them go back to the classic booking that got over it's young champions like Rikioh and Marafuji's first run okay!
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# ? Mar 14, 2021 22:37 |
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Tonfa posted:He left at the start of the pandemic so it was probably a Dove Pro or DG, choose one type of deal while COVID rages and he has a much bigger role in Dove Pro. Basically DG started to operate their own mini bubble and since he did his own thing and not a lot of DG, he finished up. Mochizuki scaling back DG and doing NOAH (he does this all the time) a lot last year was part of that too. lol thanks for the OTVG plug, we are finally wrapping up our DGUSA series tomorrow and we have some cool ideas for our next project.
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# ? Mar 14, 2021 23:19 |
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Having watched the Yokohama Budokan show from last weekend, I was going to make a mad post about the fact that Kenoh desperately needs an opponent under 40 for a change and they give him Fujita, but then Fujita and Kenoh squared off, each with one foot on the chest of Kashin. Then Haoh and NOSAWA came in for a pull apart and they also ended up with a foot on Kendo Kashin. So that part was good. Two match show though really, 6 Man tag in the co main was fun, so was Sugiuragun vs The Aggression (Actually the Stinger vs Momo No Seishun and National title matches were both decent fun but nothing must see)
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# ? Mar 15, 2021 01:19 |
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Benne posted:How many new people got into NOAH because they heard that Go was having this awesome reign, only for them to put the belt on dinosaur-rear end Mutoh and immediately kill that person's interest? Honestly if you'd just told me it was gonna end with Muto being champ it would have been fine/whatever in my opinion Getting actually invested in everything and instantly loving Nakajima and having it be Muto instead hurt more let my handsome kicking boy be king
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# ? Mar 15, 2021 03:24 |
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Is muto in 30 minute singles matches a form of elder abuse?
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# ? Mar 15, 2021 06:44 |
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https://twitter.com/Hi5ame/status/1371346286453067777 Also seems not good!
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# ? Mar 15, 2021 07:30 |
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From my experience of watching the show with my wife, if Noah are interested in increasing their female viewership, putting the title on Kiyomiya would have been a very good first step.
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forkboy84 posted:The faction stuff is really quite straightforward. There's one big heel faction, at present RED (stands for Real Extreme Diffusion), it's been around since 2018, Eita is the top guy. It's a continuation of ANTIAS (which was only around for about 6 months), which in turn was a continuation of VerserK. Kinda got lost here ngl, but sure I'll watch a show or two. Do they run a lot of interference and ref bumps? Because that's my least favorite thing about NJPW and I'm watching other puro promotions to get away from those. Anyway. I'm worried Kenoh might lose to Fujita, but unlike Mutoh he seems to be more than competent in the ring.
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Lily Catts posted:Kinda got lost here ngl, but sure I'll watch a show or two. Do they run a lot of interference and ref bumps? Because that's my least favorite thing about NJPW and I'm watching other puro promotions to get away from those. The Dragon Gate heel unit (currently RED) tradition is carrying around a box and powder that they'll use to take cheap shots. Often just a normal mid match spot but sometimes leads to the finish. They ain't gonna bump the ref though. NotQuiteQuentin posted:Basically DG started to operate their own mini bubble and since he did his own thing and not a lot of DG, he finished up. Mochizuki scaling back DG and doing NOAH (he does this all the time) a lot last year was part of that too. Yeah, that makes sense. I've enjoyed OTVG as well though I have OPINIONS about your blatant disrespect of Gamma, epitome of fun midcard character guy
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# ? Mar 15, 2021 10:41 |
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Go Shiozaki is going to have shoulder surgery per Meltzer.
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# ? Mar 15, 2021 13:22 |
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Meltz stealing scoops from Hisame, shameful
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# ? Mar 15, 2021 14:07 |
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Honestly after the year he's had Shiozaki must be held together by old screws and elastic bands. He needs a few months off just to get rebuilt.
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# ? Mar 15, 2021 15:08 |
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Maybe it's just me but I feel like maybe it would've been better to just have Go get kayfabe injured and have to vacate.
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# ? Mar 15, 2021 15:09 |
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Pylons posted:Maybe it's just me but I feel like maybe it would've been better to just have Go get kayfabe injured and have to vacate. I generally feel like it's always better to have a title change hands in the ring. And if the story of that match is "after that crazy year, Go just didn't have one more in him and got caught by a wily veteran with one last trick up his sleeve" that's kind of OK. I just don't understand what the story is with Mutoh beating Kitomiya.
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# ? Mar 15, 2021 15:19 |
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Pylons posted:Maybe it's just me but I feel like maybe it would've been better to just have Go get kayfabe injured and have to vacate. Nah, vacating the title should be avoided when possible. The bigger problem is it being Mutoh who did it.
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# ? Mar 15, 2021 15:27 |
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New DDT young lion is a tiny baby https://twitter.com/ddtpro_eng/status/1371545104058441728
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# ? Mar 15, 2021 20:37 |
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Hopefully his debut goes better than the NJPW one!
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# ? Mar 15, 2021 20:39 |
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Pylons posted:Hopefully his debut goes better than the NJPW one! couldn't go much worse
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# ? Mar 15, 2021 20:40 |
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Finding out that Okuda and the rest of his train shoot had no idea that it was Gackt in the mask at Final Gate until they got back backstage, so Okuda wrestled a title match while legitimately confused about who the gently caress is in his corner. DG whips https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYlLloh54og
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# ? Mar 15, 2021 21:07 |
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Gackt is a weird loving man.
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# ? Mar 15, 2021 21:46 |
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Glad to find out Okuda was just as confused as I was watching that match about his weird cornerman.
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# ? Mar 15, 2021 21:52 |
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For the record I thought it was gackt and may or may not have mentioned it on the final gate OTVG review but I can’t remember what I did like forty shows ago lol
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# ? Mar 15, 2021 22:20 |
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https://twitter.com/ddtpro_eng/status/1371708087120265216
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# ? Mar 16, 2021 07:27 |
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I'm not standing outside but I did exactly this lying in bed
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# ? Jun 6, 2024 06:17 |
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Watching the first AJPW since the big double turn, Jake Lee in his new role is already such a breath of fresh air. Also his gear reminds me of the leather trousers Test wore. All Japan have quietly been having an enjoyable 2021, which after the back half of 2020 is much needed. That first time Ashino and Kodama circle around each other, such great tension. I'm just going to quote the Voices of Wrestling review of this show: "The story telling in the semi-main and main event were great and gave me the most excitement I’ve had for All Japan in a long time. All of the remaining Total Eclipse tag matches on this tour should also be great. If you tuned out of All Japan after a disappointing and frustrating second half of 2020, now is the time to at least give the Total Eclipse stable and angle a chance." The show from 8/3 was a bit smaller and didn't hit the highs of the previous night but the VOD is also under 2 hours long & just zips by with a nice little Takao Omori vs Yuma Aoyagi match, an All Asia Tag match with Purple Haze defending vs the NEXTREAM youngsters Atsuki Aoyagi & HAYATO, & a fun throwaway main event with Kento, Suwama & Yoshitatsu vs 3 of the younger lads, Akira, Tamura & Honda. And the other 2 matches were totally solid too. It's real nice being able to be positive about All Japan again. forkboy84 fucked around with this message at 23:16 on Mar 16, 2021 |
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