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BonHair posted:Meanwhile, in the Discovery timeline: " I need to be at my station way across the ship in 30 seconds. Oh well, guess I'll just kill myself" I've had the same thought many times when my boss tells me to do something at work, tbh.
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Grand Fromage posted:I've had the same thought many times when my boss tells me to do something at work, tbh. Same, but the small death.
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Kurzon posted:I guess the episode Our Man Bashir means that souls are a thing in Star Trek? Because to store the mind of a person, wouldn't you only need to store a facsimile of his brain? This implies there is more to the brain than flesh. Sounds about right, Vulcans keep their dead souls in canopic jars and all that
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Kurzon posted:I guess the episode Our Man Bashir means that souls are a thing in Star Trek? Because to store the mind of a person, wouldn't you only need to store a facsimile of his brain? This implies there is more to the brain than flesh. souls were already established as real by Star Trek 3: The Search for Spock
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Mar 17, 2021 20:47
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At one point in a Trek book I read a long time ago, one of the ghost-written Shatner books I think because Kirk is alive, Kirk and Spock are arrested and put in a Vulcan holding cell which is a holoroom. To escape Kirk has Spock throw him so hard through the edge of the hologram that the computer doesn't have enough time to activate safeties or "expand" the room to compensate. After recovering from slamming into a solid wall fast enough that he should probably be dead he "escapes" the room projection and then inches along the wall to the entrance of the room to open the door. No one can ever make sense of the holodeck.
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Kurzon posted:I guess the episode Our Man Bashir means that souls are a thing in Star Trek? Because to store the mind of a person, wouldn't you only need to store a facsimile of his brain? This implies there is more to the brain than flesh. theres also an ep where bashir basically refuses to keep beriel alive any longer because replacing the remainder of his brain would be removing his soul
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Mar 17, 2021 20:55
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Grand Fromage posted:The latter. They never explain how it works in the show that I can recall. There's a story that once, Michael Okada was asked how the "Heisenbeg compenarors" in the transporters worked, and he answered "They work just fine, thanks."
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Mar 17, 2021 21:27
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The holodeck is one of the pieces of Trek tech that would make more sense if they just said that it was literally magic. "The holodeck is powered by crystals the Federation gets from Megas-tu. All holo-engineers are trained in basic incantations."
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Mar 17, 2021 21:33
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Epicurius posted:There's a story that once, Michael Okada was asked how the "Heisenbeg compenarors" in the transporters worked, and he answered "They work just fine, thanks." If I were to somehow ever launch a scifi universe, this is basically the explanation I will use for every bit of supertechnology. That and "Edison didn't need to know what an electron flow was to invent the light bulb."
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Big Mean Jerk posted:You don’t need to see Bashir and O’Brien flying over the channel in Spitfires, just slap costumes on them and have them toast their dead wingman at the bar. No I'm pretty sure I need to see that.
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Mar 17, 2021 22:33
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John F Bennett posted:Who's the poor schmuck who gets to clean the holodeck after use? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1fMM5CksAo0
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Kurzon posted:young men who actually wear armor when going down into combat. idk if armor would do anything versus a disrupter or other sci-fi lasers involved
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Mar 17, 2021 22:39
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Vasukhani posted:idk if armor would do anything versus a disrupter or other sci-fi lasers involved Bullets can kill the Borg, so logically you can conquer the known universe by having a strong left hook. Consider TOS and you will realise that this is entirely consistent with canon
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Royal Updog posted:Bullets can kill the Borg, so logically you can conquer the known universe by having a strong left hook. Consider TOS and you will realise that this is entirely consistent with canon That was technically holographic bullets. So it was still a directed energy weapon.
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Mar 17, 2021 23:10
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Nitrousoxide posted:That was technically holographic bullets. So it was still a directed energy weapon. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTL1upt_Vak I mean if Data is concerned by one arrow I imagine bullets would do some damage.
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Mar 17, 2021 23:37
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Nitrousoxide posted:That was technically holographic bullets. So it was still a directed energy weapon. The holodeck creates entirely real universes. "End Program" genocides infinite billions of races. This is it's terrible secret. This is why Neelix Must Cook
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:souls were already established as real by Star Trek 3: The Search for Spock
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They say in the first episode that the holodeck and the replicators work on similar principles. So the holodeck makes fully functional real guns on command.
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John F Bennett posted:Who's the poor schmuck who gets to clean the holodeck after use? O'Brien must suffer.
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Mar 18, 2021 00:07
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 The transporter doesn't kill you. It kills everybody else.everybody
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Does sleep kill you?
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But that episode with the giant bacteria clearly shows that you are still conscious during transport. So when does it kill you?
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Mar 18, 2021 00:16
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Royal Updog posted:
Quantum immortality, bitch
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Lower Decks has one of the best holodeck episodes because while the holodeck itself was an excuse for spectacle, the whole episode was just about the internal conflicts of the characters instead of focusing on the setting or some temporary costar, because when the holodeck is functioning as intended, the only thing that's real there is what you bring with you.
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I’ve been binging the DS9 Ferengi episodes. Hella good with probably one exception.
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Martytoof posted:I’ve been binging the DS9 Ferengi episodes. We know.
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thotsky posted:Does sleep kill you? I have a Freddy Krueger so my situation is not typical
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thotsky posted:Does sleep kill you? Q was terrified by sleeping, which I found to be hilarious
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Royal Updog posted:The holodeck creates entirely real universes. "End Program" genocides infinite billions of races. This is it's terrible secret. This is why Neelix Must Cook It is kind of disconcerting in DS9 when Miles and Julian leave their Alamo or Battle of Britain holodeck program, having just shot a bunch of holographic Mexicans and Germans and then go visit their good friend Vic the Hologram, who's just as much a Real Boy as anybody.
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Eimi posted:But that episode with the giant bacteria clearly shows that you are still conscious during transport. So when does it kill you?
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Big Mean Jerk posted:I’m an Enterprise apologist and I rewatched it just last year I'm "re" - watching right now ( I first saw episodes when I was a child and it was on TV). And I have to say it is much better than I was expecting. I mean, it's been a long time getting from here to there, so it feels a little dated, but honestly the critics aren't gonna change my mind. Maybe it's just because compared to new trek the show seems to have a real strength of the soul. No one is gonna bend or break my opinion here.
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Epicurius posted:It is kind of disconcerting in DS9 when Miles and Julian leave their Alamo or Battle of Britain holodeck program, having just shot a bunch of holographic Mexicans and Germans and then go visit their good friend Vic the Hologram, who's just as much a Real Boy as anybody. If the Alamo or world war holo-people were programmed like Vic after you said “end program” they’d hang around for a second to let you know they were happy to get shot and act like they were dying in agony and terror because hey that’s hologram life baby, who’s up for a song.
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Vasukhani posted:I'm "re" - watching right now ( I first saw episodes when I was a child and it was on TV). And I have to say it is much better than I was expecting. I mean, it's been a long time getting from here to there, so it feels a little dated, but honestly the critics aren't gonna change my mind. Maybe it's just because compared to new trek the show seems to have a real strength of the soul. No one is gonna bend or break my opinion here. At this point I would rather rewatch ENT than VOY, which I am planning to do after my current TNG run. Speaking of, I'm about to finish S5 of TNG and man, what a fantastic season that is. It must be the best one so far, what do you guys think? I haven't watched TNG since the 90's so I've forgotten most of it and don't remember how S6+S7 were. John F Bennett fucked around with this message at 12:56 on Mar 18, 2021 |
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Epicurius posted:It is kind of disconcerting in DS9 when Miles and Julian leave their Alamo or Battle of Britain holodeck program, having just shot a bunch of holographic Mexicans and Germans and then go visit their good friend Vic the Hologram, who's just as much a Real Boy as anybody. They're definitely not the same thing. Those Luftwaffe pilots are probably not even fully simulated. They might as well be a part of the plane. Santa Anna's army likely has all the intelligence and autonomy as the enemies in Halo or something. They're marionettes, not an intelligent simulation.
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John F Bennett posted:At this point I would rather rewatch ENT than VOY, which I am planning to do after my current TNG run. I’ve said this before, but I was surprised I found S5 to be one of the weaker seasons on my last rewatch. Aside from 6-7 absolutely goddamn stellar episodes, the rest felt like a dull slog to me. I much preferred S4, S6-7.
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Sash! posted:They're definitely not the same thing. Those Luftwaffe pilots are probably not even fully simulated. They might as well be a part of the plane. Santa Anna's army likely has all the intelligence and autonomy as the enemies in Halo or something. They're marionettes, not an intelligent simulation. Moriarty was the dumb one as he didn't realise that if he played along he could go hang out in Vulcan Love Slave in his down time.
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John F Bennett posted:Speaking of, I'm about to finish S5 of TNG and man, what a fantastic season that is. It must be the best one so far, what do you guys think? I haven't watched TNG since the 90's so I've forgotten most of it and don't remember how S6+S7 were. Probably. But I think 3-6 are pretty much tied. You could maybe tally up how many classic episodes are in each and mathematically calculate which is best, but the way it feels watching it is that they're all at kind of a consistent level. A baseline of competent episodes with occasional great ones.
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Sir Lemming posted:You could maybe tally up how many classic episodes are in each and mathematically calculate which is best do it
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I can understand the Battle of Britain being really fun and cool, but the Alamo? Either the holodeck is really sanitizing things or Bashir and O'Brien are stone cold fuckers. Pitched hand to hand fighting in the 1830s is some messy business.
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