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Smeep posted:On Trump's new "communications platform" (a website where he puts out press releases in a stream that kinda sorta looks like social media but without all those pesky other people) quote:Liberal/leftists heads are exploding.... I guess even Freep knows that those are two different things now  (maybe that is why our heads are exploding? Trump continuing his twitter ranting in notepad.exe sure isn't it)
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Necrothatcher posted:gently caress this probation Turns out liberal does not mean the same thing in the US and the UK.
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Herstory Begins Now posted:Turns out liberal does not mean the same thing in the US and the UK. these words are literally universally applicable political words though because they focus on ethos rather than realpolitik
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Herstory Begins Now posted:Turns out liberal does not mean the same thing in the US and the UK. With either definition it's still true though. "See American Liberals aren't as heartless as English ones" doesn't really work when you view the last say...50 years of politics being liberals pulling right to try and peel some support off of the Reagen era repubs and then they just kept doing it from there forward. The ACA started as a Heritage Foundation approach to 'fixing' healthcare while actually just focusing on making sure private companies kept making money (source on origin of ACA: https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2010/apr/01/barack-obama/obama-says-heritage-foundation-source-health-excha/) How are you in any position of power but this utterly ignorant of history or the struggle of poor and minority people or just this thin skinned that you think that genuinely good post was worthy of any punishment?
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Herstory Begins Now posted:Turns out liberal does not mean the same thing in the US and the UK. liberalism sucks and so do you (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Herstory Begins Now posted:Turns out liberal does not mean the same thing in the US and the UK. Words do have multiple meanings sometimes. gently caress, even when I asked the question about the use of the term "liberal" I was pretty sure I knew what they were talking about and they just confirmed it for me and then made quite the effort post about it. First time in all my SA days that I've looked at a probe and said to myself, "Well that was hosed up".
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May 4, 2021 23:10
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Sorry I thought this thread was for making fun of the freaks at Free Republic my bad
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Smeep posted:Sorry I thought this thread was for making fun of the freaks at Free Republic my bad I've lurked this thread for awhile now cause it's so fun but the idiot mods can't even not gently caress up in here, this holy ground. JimRob was a better admin
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- please shitpost less in here, or at least do it more on topic - herstory's probe of owlfancier was more or less a misunderstanding - fos's 3day reads to me like it was an extension of the day on the much worse post and he picked the wrong post - please shitpost less in here
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Herstory Begins Now posted:Turns out liberal does not mean the same thing in the US and the UK.
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Twelve by Pies posted:This dude has Freep's number though. If you want to get Freep railing against spanking in schools, make up a fake story about a liberal teacher spanking a kid for saying God or something. Lmao I was going to post the same thing but this freeper beat me to it. Really shows you what freep is all about, they've always got the hate on for teachers and administrators as evil satanic bureaucrats indoctrinating kids and teaching them things like evolution and sex ed that parents don't want their kids to know, but as soon as a principal smacks a kid it's all "it was for her own good" "if her parents don't like it they're lovely parents who should shut up and be grateful someone beats their kids when they don't" blah blah blah and they just totally forget everything they say about parental rights and evil government schools. They just want to see kids abused, that's 99% of their politics right there VitalSigns fucked around with this message at 23:34 on May 4, 2021 |
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Corrode posted:liberalism sucks and so do you Wow. Great comedic timing though.
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If shitposting is banned than how can we quote freepers  fake e: after momentary reflection it's probably more accurate to say that every freep post is just a very, very bad effortpost
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Nigerian teen gets 19 scholarship offers worth more than $5 million from the US and Canada From the article linked quote:A senior prefect during her time in high school, Victory rose to national prominence in late 2020 after she scored straight As in her West African Senior School Certificate Examination (WASSCE). quote:To: deport quote:To: deport quote:To: Yo-Yo quote:To: deport quote:To: deport quote:Comment #20 Removed by Moderator quote:To: Yo-Yo quote:To: deport
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Smeep posted:On Trump's new "communications platform" (a website where he puts out press releases in a stream that kinda sorta looks like social media but without all those pesky other people) There's some people in that thread feeling more empowered to turn against Dear Leader. quote:It’s one way communication you can’t respond. He had such an opportunity to start a whole new conservative platform to rival Twitter and Facebook any squandered it it. quote:As much as I hate to say it, Trump is not on our side. His crazy pro covid vax position says it all. quote:He shoulda done something like this from the start. His tweeting is at least 50% of what made him lose, the rest covid and the fallout from it. quote:I'm no happier having Trump tell me to get jabbed than I am hearing that from Jopedo. Plenty of Freepers calling those posters liberals/traitors/RINOs too but they're less interesting. Well aside from this one. They're definitely lying of course, but it's still interesting. quote:You should be more upset with the GOP that they stabbed President Trump, and us in the back, certified a potato, and sanctioned unlimited voter fraud. That's what turned me against any GOP candidate, not that Donald Trump supports the vaccine. If you continue to support the GOP, and vote for any of their candidates, then you're condoning their behavior, and continuing to allow them to abuse you, and disrespect your vote. I've washed my hands of the whole party. If that means not voting for Donald Trump should he run again, then so be it. I won't compromise my values for a party that doesn't give a $hit about me, or my vote. "Actually it's good that nobody can comment on his new blog, because quote:It not trivial to keep tens of thousands of agent provocateurs out. They'll post garbage, alert all the leftists and GOEBBELS media of the posts and then that get passed around as from TRUMP'S SUPPORTERS. Racist, homophones, women haters, ... quote:“It’s one way communication you can’t respond.” quote:Did you ever look at his Twitter replies? "Trump said he supported the vaccine on Opposite Day, so I think you'll find..." quote:“His crazy pro covid vax position says it all.” And finally an incredibly dumb, completely out of touch with reality post. quote:Was hoping it would be a Twitter or FB platform and I guess he could add to what he has just opened. I will check it out to see what he has to say. Most dems that I talked to didn’t have a problem with much of his policy as far as creating jobs. They didn’t like his tweets. But he got attacked worse than any other president ever. Constant and he would fight back, I liked that about him. If he was treated in the media the way other presidents were then he may not have been as vicious. He fought for all of us in his foreign policy. He got results and the border was much better off. Look at the border now. And our current president is hiding and the media covers for him and asks softball questions. If the media threw questions and insults at biden like they did Trump then he would have a heart attack.
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Finnankainen posted:Nigerian teen gets 19 scholarship offers worth more than $5 million from the US and Canada whats funny is a few of them clearly get it. one is like "hey maybe we should let her stay and reward her so she votes for us and helps us" and the rest poo poo on him. like i wish i had this ladies brains and work ethic. i just have my BA in history . i wish this girl the best.
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probably my favorite thing on Freep is when one of them perfectly identifies how dems keep minority votes despite not really doing much for those communities and say poo poo like 'wait this random minority involved in a story that isn't major news you posted here just to get mad at could probably actually lend their voice for our side if we just made a big show of treating them well in minor ways that don't actually require any real political capital or meaningful action' and then every other poster just froths with rage at the idea of even paying shallow respect to someone with dark skin.
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Flying-PCP posted:What is political capital, exactly? An informal measurement of how "Trustworthy" a politician or political faction is, and usually an extension of that trust is measured in how much political action they can accomplish
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A somewhat nebulous idea I think, the usual interpretation I encounter is the idea that it is a sort of currency of support that political organizations build up among their voters/other political factions which they can expend to embark on difficult political actions (either in the sense that their voters are willing to allow them leeway to act without voting against them or in the sense that other political factions are willing to work with them to enact a policy but they won't do this all the time.) I don't really buy this entirely because I don't think the highly conditional nature of political support really fits the word "capital" because what political actions you can do and who will support them is extremely subjective, you can do an unlimited amount of things that people want you to do (or at least as quickly as you can write legislation) and if the right people don't want to do something you can't do it, so I think understanding it as a currency is a bit weird. I also think some people like to use it to sort of handwave away why politicians don't do things when a more direct answer might be that the politicians just don't want to do them. The idea that voters will allow a party a certain amount of leeway in deivating from what they want them to do is a thing, so people sometimes use it to describe that in general, but I also think the idea of it being "capital" is a bit misleading because I think as freep (and other political trends) shows quite well, what they want them to do and who they will support is pretty all over the place, politicians and platforms fall in and out of favour very fluidly and some politicians are afforded a near infinite amount of goodwill despite failing to do anything useful politically for their supporters or in an objective sense, simply because they are able to get a lot of people to form an emotional attachment to them. And similarly that favour can fade if and when they lose. There is a strong "politics as a team sport" effect too. If political capital is a thing then it is a cryptocurrency. OwlFancier fucked around with this message at 02:02 on May 5, 2021 |
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Flying-PCP posted:What is political capital, exactly? Total bullshit talking head jargon for nonsense speak to fill air time.
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GreyjoyBastard posted:- fos's 3day reads to me like it was an extension of the day on the much worse post and he picked the wrong post It's this I hosed up and clicked probe on the wrong post. I meant to probe this one: chitoryu12 posted:lol you actually believe Tara "Unironic Putin Stan" Reade. gently caress this poo poo.
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sexpig by night posted:probably my favorite thing on Freep is when one of them perfectly identifies how dems keep minority votes despite not really doing much for those communities and say poo poo like 'wait this random minority involved in a story that isn't major news you posted here just to get mad at could probably actually lend their voice for our side if we just made a big show of treating them well in minor ways that don't actually require any real political capital or meaningful action' and then every other poster just froths with rage at the idea of even paying shallow respect to someone with dark skin. I love the freepers who like actually really seem to believe some of the poo poo Republicans pretend to believe for public consumption and then are flabbergasted when their fellow freepers just dump their supposed principles in the trash when they're with each other "wait guys I thought we believed in small government and parental sovereignty and hated government schools, why are you so happy a government official is beating someone's kid I don't understand" "wait wait guys, we're only against illegal criminal immigrants right, why aren't we accepting this valedictorian overachiever from Nigeria, if we gave her citizenship she could be our ambassador from the Republican Party to the good minorities to show how not racist we are, why are you hating on her skin color and national origin that makes us look racist!" And lol it's good Trump doesn't allow replies because liberals will post exactly like freepers to make us look racist and stupid
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Flying-PCP posted:What is political capital, exactly? It used to be a general stand-in for all the favors and good will and poo poo that politicians would build up over time so you could call up Senator R and remind them of the time you voted for something R really wanted and now it's time to return the favor. Which is to say it doesn't really exist at all anymore and may not have ever existed except as an example of the "good old days"
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Ravenfood posted:It used to be a general stand-in for all the favors and good will and poo poo that politicians would build up over time so you could call up Senator R and remind them of the time you voted for something R really wanted and now it's time to return the favor. I think markers and stuff are still a thing, but less so than they used to be, especially since the Republican party realized that if they went extremely far right and screeched about how democrats were the far left they could essentially move the Overton window by default since the mainstream media is almost totally worthless in this regard, and gerrymandering has made it so most politicians have far more to fear from a more extreme primary challenger than a general election. But "political capital" really was just some bullshit that people whose dads went to good schools so they could get media jobs invented so they had something else to use to analyze the news. Like there was never any objective reality to it, the legislators largely dont care what the public thinks about issues, or we'd basically see the Bernie agenda enacted nearly immediately.
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VitalSigns posted:"wait guys I thought we believed in small government and parental sovereignty and hated government schools, why are you so happy a government official is beating someone's kid I don't understand" One of the most fascinating things to me was how before the pandemic the right was big on how the schools were all liberal brainwashing institutions and you should pull your kids out of those liberal public schools and homeschool them so you can teach them real history and good old American values. And then when the pandemic hit and schools closed it was "We need to open schools NOW! It's ridiculous that the government wants us to school our kids at home!"
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Twelve by Pies posted:One of the most fascinating things to me was how before the pandemic the right was big on how the schools were all liberal brainwashing institutions and you should pull your kids out of those liberal public schools and homeschool them so you can teach them real history and good old American values. Everybody wanna be a homeschool nazi but not everybody gonna put in the work
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Lol yeah I noticed that too, turns out the anti-public school stuff was really about justifying low teacher salaries and cutting education budgets to fund local tax cuts, not about actually getting rid of the free babysitting
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sexpig by night posted:probably my favorite thing on Freep is when one of them perfectly identifies how dems keep minority votes despite not really doing much for those communities and say poo poo like 'wait this random minority involved in a story that isn't major news you posted here just to get mad at could probably actually lend their voice for our side if we just made a big show of treating them well in minor ways that don't actually require any real political capital or meaningful action' and then every other poster just froths with rage at the idea of even paying shallow respect to someone with dark skin. So you're saying that Conservative Propaganda is correct that POC and other minority groups are gormless fools that Democrats literally trick and/or bribe into supporting them by performatively giving them table scraps when they could have so much more if they just abandoned their crypto-enslavers huh? How're Candance Owens and Diamond and Silk doing in kickstarting that Blexit movement? Good?
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Sanguinia posted:So you're saying that Conservative Propaganda is correct that POC and other minority groups are gormless fools that Democrats literally trick and/or bribe into supporting them by performatively giving them table scraps when they could have so much more if they just abandoned their crypto-enslavers huh? drat that's one hell of a strawman. What is with people kramering into this thread lately to start arguments about things that aren't Freep? Instead we could be laughing about things like Freep doing another 180 on Ted Cruz. Had a great dinner tonight with President Trump at Mar-a-Lago (The title is from a tweet Ted Cruz made.) quote:While my preference would be a Trump/DeSantis ticket, I really like the fact that Cruz is publicly maintaining a good personal relationship with our President in Exile. quote:He looks like the guy Trump invited to dinner. Trump and Cruz are fine with each other these days. quote:Yup. Trump had no stronger allies in the Senate than Cruz. If all Congressional Republicans had backed Trump as well as Cruz did, we'd have a complete border wall in place right now. The FReepers who can't get over Cruz's opposition to Trump in the 2016 primaries really need to get over it and step into 2021. quote:I like Ted Cruz. I don’t believe that he has any future as a POTUS/VP candidate, but at least he knows which side he’s playing for. He knows that the real enemies are on the left, and he’s never been one to play to the media/leftist establishment for cheap applause in the manner of a Liz Cheney or Mittens Romney. quote:stop hating on Ted! Though not every Freeper is willing to forgive Cruz for the crimes of not being lily white and running against Trump in the primaries. quote:I am torn. I don’t truly know if Cruz is sincere or just a political whore who is correctly judging which way the winds are blowing. But, my gut instinct tells me the latter is likely the case. quote:Cruz, the Constitutional Expert realizes full well that he is ineligible to ever be President, but he ran anyhow. quote:Ted’s name has been floated for the Supreme court.
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VitalSigns posted:I love the freepers who like actually really seem to believe some of the poo poo Republicans pretend to believe for public consumption and then are flabbergasted when their fellow freepers just dump their supposed principles in the trash when they're with each other My favorite (though non-freep) example of this was the oathkeeper guy who really wanted to help arm black protestors in Fergerson, only to be surprised to find that the oathkeeper organization only really wanted constitutional rights and the right to bear arms for white people.
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Sanguinia posted:So you're saying that Conservative Propaganda is correct that POC and other minority groups are gormless fools that Democrats literally trick and/or bribe into supporting them by performatively giving them table scraps when they could have so much more if they just abandoned their crypto-enslavers huh? It's...not really that deep and conspiratorial really my dude. Neither party really is any good for people who aren't already the wealthy and powerful in charge of things, but the democrats make a show of supporting more inclusive viewpoints without really doing a ton meaningful, but because the contrast is the right wing who meets 'wait I thought we liked legal immigrants who can contribute their knowledge to our country. Shouldn't we be welcoming this Nigerian lady and hoping she lends her voice to our movement if we do?' with 'AAAAAAAAGH AFRICAN WOMAN BAD AAAAAAAAAAGH' yea no poo poo most people will take token support over outright hate. This is...not a hot take at all my buddy. Hobnob posted:My favorite (though non-freep) example of this was the oathkeeper guy who really wanted to help arm black protestors in Fergerson, only to be surprised to find that the oathkeeper organization only really wanted constitutional rights and the right to bear arms for white people. God that's always really funny, I remember some thing ages ago when the Proud Boys were kinda just getting big when some moderately big black right wing grifter type wanted to join to show how not racist they were and near instantly went from 'hey I agree we need to protect the west and stop the deviants from ruining the culture' to 'oh man you guys sure love shouting the n-word at me even when I agree with you'
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Sanguinia posted:How're Candance Owens and Diamond and Silk doing in kickstarting that Blexit movement? Good? https://twitter.com/BLEXIT/status/1389341514447339521?s=20 "Hey black people - cops are actually really cool and good. Don't listen to the haters!"
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Scratch Monkey posted:https://twitter.com/BLEXIT/status/1389341514447339521?s=20 They don’t have to worry, you can’t hear the haters when someone is kneeling on your neck. pseudanonymous fucked around with this message at 19:53 on May 5, 2021 |
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VitalSigns posted:I love the freepers who like actually really seem to believe some of the poo poo Republicans pretend to believe for public consumption and then are flabbergasted when their fellow freepers just dump their supposed principles in the trash when they're with each other I grew up in a deep red wealthy suburban district with staunchly conservative parents. We'd listen to conservative talk radio in the car and gather as a family to watch Bill O'reilly and Sean Hannity in the evenings. Somehow I managed to absorb all the small government fiscally responsible messaging without really picking up on racist dog whistles. Hence "why are we against gay marriage cuz why should the government get to decide?" or "if Obamacare is bad because it's moving healthcare decisions from patients to government bureaucrats, then why do government bureaucrats get to make decisions for women about reproductive health?" Then I moved to a small rural town and the people at republican events were happy to be openly racist, spew birth poo poo, and engage in some really weird fetishization when they found out I'm Jewish. Made me start to think the democrats weren't lying when they said republicans had a racism problem after all.
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Soylent Pudding posted:I grew up in a deep red wealthy suburban district with staunchly conservative parents. We'd listen to conservative talk radio in the car and gather as a family to watch Bill O'reilly and Sean Hannity in the evenings. Somehow I managed to absorb all the small government fiscally responsible messaging without really picking up on racist dog whistles. Hence "why are we against gay marriage cuz why should the government get to decide?" or "if Obamacare is bad because it's moving healthcare decisions from patients to government bureaucrats, then why do government bureaucrats get to make decisions for women about reproductive health?" yeah alot of wealthy conservatives genuinly do believe in all that bullshit and so tend to be somewhat socially liberal on weird levels because they tend to be more worldly/educated then the small town/small bueness/chud conservatives. so when you do get racism(you always do at some point) its always dog whistled and sometimes weirdly unintentional.
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Poll: 72% of Americans Say Immigrants Come to the United States for Jobs and to Improve Their Livesquote:To: yesthatjallen quote:To: yesthatjallen quote:To: Texas Fossil quote:To: yesthatjallen quote:To: yesthatjallen quote:To: yesthatjallen quote:To: yesthatjallen quote:To: yesthatjallen quote:To: elpadre quote:To: Texas Fossil
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Finnankainen posted:Poll: 72% of Americans Say Immigrants Come to the United States for Jobs and to Improve Their Lives i like how abortion is bad only because we don't have enough worker drones or whatever. gently caress freepers.
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