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Cup Runneth Over posted:im gonna have to naysay this unless you have a study backing it up, lol. seems both gross and possibly an ineffective home remedy I know people who do this for scuba masks and facial hair. It isn't completely crazy.
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A valuable tip if you have been looking for excuses to go out in public all greased up.
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DeadlyMuffin posted:I know people who do this for scuba masks and facial hair. It isn't completely crazy. alright well if you're willing to scuba dive while trusting your mask seal to vaseline then I will unironically give it to you, because that seems like the kind of thing you'd only do if you were absolutely sure it worked lmao
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re: vasline we're talking about stubble, right? Not full beards. I pretty much gave up on n95s and avoiding lung cancer.
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Cup Runneth Over posted:im gonna have to naysay this unless you have a study backing it up, lol. seems both gross and possibly an ineffective home remedy That it is not. And note, I’m not saying do this for a long time. But I’ve found it makes a pretty good seal for short times underwater, and I’ve tried it above water with cartridge respirators on and it has worked ... fairly well? I passed a respirator fit check, but they still wouldn’t let me be approved for use, it was part of a discussion I was having with the health and safety guy I sat next to. Tl;dr: don’t trust your life with it, but it’s probably okay? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ E: I did it with about 1cm long beard hair. I’m a bit longer than that now and I probably would try it, but not trust it. Rodenthar Drothman fucked around with this message at 04:26 on May 7, 2021 |
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Ranter posted:re: vasline we're talking about stubble, right? Not full beards. I pretty much gave up on n95s and avoiding lung cancer. You'd rather take the bullet and die horribly and young from lung cancer than... shave? I don't understand
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Beards are great, yo. That’s all there is to it.
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You can grow the beard back, but not your lungs.
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Cup Runneth Over posted:You can grow the beard back, but not your lungs. You underestimate my power.
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Lung tissue isn't that hard to grow. It's the vasculature and implantation that is the real trick.
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Cup Runneth Over posted:alright well if you're willing to scuba dive while trusting your mask seal to vaseline then I will unironically give it to you, because that seems like the kind of thing you'd only do if you were absolutely sure it worked lmao Not at all. Masks often leak even without facial hair and that doesn't affect your ability to breathe. And you can test that kind of thing just below the surface.
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redreader posted:Not at all. Masks often leak even without facial hair and that doesn't affect your ability to breathe. And you can test that kind of thing just below the surface. Yeah to be honest I'm not entirely sure how Vaseline would really help. I don't usually have much facial hair, but it's hard to envision how it would interfere with a mask (since it covers your eyes). Even if it did, a flooded mask is both normal and not a serious problem. The regulator having a seal issue wouldn't be fixed by Vaseline since it goes into your mouth, and dealing with it popping out is a normal issue. Maybe a full face mask would be a different issue, I'm not familiar with using them. You'd think that Vaseline wouldn't last long underwater, which would make it a concerningly temporary solution to leakage even if it was one. Kaal fucked around with this message at 19:20 on May 7, 2021 |
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Silicone gel is typically a better choice than vaseline. I think I've read somewhere that petrolatum can dry out some rubbers?
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Cup Runneth Over posted:You'd rather take the bullet and die horribly and young from lung cancer than... shave? I don't understand Cup Runneth Over posted:You can grow the beard back, but not your lungs. No, one cannot grow a beard this magnificent back in 6 months, which is how long we have in-between cancer-air seasons now.
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Centrist Committee posted:I for one am relieved that fire smoke is the only thing known to the state of California to cause cancer!!! That reminds me, we should really get a new thread title
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California Politics Thread: This thread is known to the State of California to cause cancer
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Shear Modulus posted:California Politics Thread: This thread of known to the State of California to cause forums cancer
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ReidRansom posted:Silicone gel is typically a better choice than vaseline. I think I've read somewhere that petrolatum can dry out some rubbers? Do not use silicone based gel or lubes with silicone masks, it will eat the material.
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Shear Modulus posted:California Politics Thread: This thread is known to the State of California to cause forums cancer
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Shear Modulus posted:California Politics Thread: This thread is known to the State of California to cause cancer moderadores, por favor
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Man, I was going through some policy documents recently for work and saw this graph put out by the city of berkeley on their housing stock vintage:  It is just wild how little has been done in the past 50 years (100, if you want to look at the last peak).
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El Mero Mero posted:Man, I was going through some policy documents recently for work and saw this graph put out by the city of berkeley on their housing stock vintage: Now overlay the hyper commoditization of housing 'real estate value' data over the top, I bet it's the inverse. droll fucked around with this message at 22:12 on May 7, 2021 |
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ReidRansom posted:Oh right. I'd forgotten about that and it could be quite important, haha. don't forget the sex toy rules
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El Mero Mero posted:Man, I was going through some policy documents recently for work and saw this graph put out by the city of berkeley on their housing stock vintage: But no, I'm sure the problems are purely because of greedy landlords/developers, not that we don't have enough housing to go around
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Cicero posted:But no, I'm sure the problems are purely because of greedy landlords/developers, not that we don't have enough housing to go around The former causes the latter
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It seems there is monetary incentive to not build for entrenched voting power AND development money. Why build to lower prices
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droll posted:The former causes the latter Goodpancakes posted:It seems there is monetary incentive to not build for entrenched voting power AND development money. Why build to lower prices Leftists focus in on landlords and developers because they're easy ideological targets, but the idea that they're the root cause doesn't make any sense. Here's a comprehensive list of cities where landlords and developers aren't greedy: *
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Cicero posted:Nah. It's landowners Nah, it's actually even simpler; It's the commodification of housing under Capitalism. Housing has been a crisis for workers for hundreds of years. It never stopped. And now we have hyper commodification of housing after the post-WW2 boom ended. But yeh, silly leftists *rolls eyes* P.S. A landlord is a landowner lol droll fucked around with this message at 22:39 on May 7, 2021 |
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And yet, there are plenty of other parts of the country where housing is more reasonably priced. And other countries that manage to have saner housing prices even in megametros, even with capitalism.droll posted:P.S. A landlord is a landowner lol
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droll posted:Nah, it's actually even simpler; It's the commodification of housing under Capitalism. Housing has been a crisis for workers for hundreds of years. It never stopped. And now we have hyper commoditization of housing after the post-WW2 boom ended. I mean, a "commodity" is generally marked by standardization, wide availability, substitutability, and cheapness (think "corn"). Making something a commodity almost always drives down the price of production to nearly collapse levels of cheapness. Actual housing meets basically none of those definitions. Now if you're talking about mortgages and other financial products, that's pretty true! Too bad the production of financial products is totally disconnected from the production of real world goods.
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Commodification, not commoditization. I fixed my post.Cicero posted:And yet, there are plenty of other parts of the country where housing is more reasonably priced. And other countries that manage to have saner housing prices even in megametros, even with capitalism. Housing (un)affordability and homelessness has been increasing around the country and globe. This is a weird argument you're trying to make. Why do landowners, landlords, developers and the State prevent more housing being built? droll fucked around with this message at 22:45 on May 7, 2021 |
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Oh my loving god are we going to have the landlord vs. homeowner flamewar again.
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Kenning posted:Oh my loving god are we going to have the landlord vs. homeowner flamewar again. i mean you were warned, there was a prop 65 warning on this page and everything
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Kenning posted:Oh my loving god are we going to have the landlord vs. homeowner flamewar again. No I don't think so, I think OP was just being a bit pedantic. I think we all agree that landlords are landowners, and landowners and developers and the State are making housing unaffordable around the planet. I just want to understand why they think all of the earlier mentioned are doing it.
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droll posted:Why do landowners, landlords, developers and the State prevent more housing being built? edit: the point isn't that landlords are great, it's that they're a sideshow. Build enough housing and their power to command high rent prices disappears, and then it doesn't matter how greedy they are Cicero fucked around with this message at 01:00 on May 8, 2021 |
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