|
If AMD can get their super resolution tech to work with nvidia GPUs as rumoured, they could be onto a killer tech there. Even if it's not quite as good as DLSS, getting it to work on something like a GTX 10 series cards is going to be something special. I have a lot of hope for them pulling it off.
|
#
?
May 8, 2021 15:35
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 19, 2024 05:32 |
|
|
It probably will work on any GPU, the big question is how does the quality hold up. There's already plenty of vendor-agnostic temporal upscalers (TAAU) out there, UE4 supports TAAU out of the box, games like Control and Metro Exodus have generic TAAU as alternatives to DLSS, the problem is that generic TAAU has very obvious quality tradeoffs compared to DLSS. TAAU is basically TAA but pushed harder so all the usual TAA flaws are exacerbated. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NbpZCSf4_Yk&t=2129s If what AMD delivers isn't appreciably better than what those engines are already shipping then FSR will be a big load of nothing repiv fucked around with this message at 16:11 on May 8, 2021 |
|
#
?
May 8, 2021 15:47
|
|
|
Is FSR supposed to come to the new AMD-based consoles too? I know people have been making a big to-do about DLSS supposedly making its way into future Nintendo Switch hardware
|
|
#
?
May 8, 2021 16:02
|
|
|
I don't see why it wouldn't work on consoles as well. Again though lots of console devs are already using TAAU so it comes down to whether AMD actually advances the state of the art or just provides a reference implementation of the technique already being used.
|
|
#
?
May 8, 2021 16:07
|
|
|
it's my feeling (though I could be entirely wrong) that it's not nearly as necessary for consoles because the devs can always tune/tweak the game to hit the performance metrics they want for example, Resident Evil Village, with RT on, and no DLSS, Techpowerup was able to get 74 FPS using the RX 6700 XT at 1080p I'm not sure where the PS5 GPU falls among the AMD GPUs, but the dev could just put up a toggle for ray-tracing with the understanding that "okay, this isn't going to go over 60 FPS if you turn it on", the same way that a lot of games already have a "Performance vs Quality" toggle
|
|
#
?
May 8, 2021 16:16
|
|
|
There are plenty of poorly tuned console games so this would help Returnal runs pretty poorly for what it’s doing and RE:V isn’t exactly running that great either
|
|
#
?
May 8, 2021 16:27
|
|
|
Those games are already playing the upscaling card though, e.g. Returnal renders 1080p and reconstructs up to 4K This is why I'm on the fence about FSR, there's nothing novel about temporal upscaling on AMD hardware so FSR can only be differentiated by its image quality, which hasn't been demonstrated at all yet
|
|
#
?
May 8, 2021 16:35
|
|
|
mA posted:Rumor: AMD's answer to DLSS might be launching next month. The name is a huge disappointment. FSR? That sucks. They should take a lesson from themselves and call it FreeLSS.
|
|
#
?
May 8, 2021 18:43
|
|
|
The oft rumored "Lower Hash Rate" versions of the 3000 series are real and launching: https://twitter.com/VideoCardz/status/1390959561507545089 As was leaked, it is a new die revision with part numbers ending in 02, so GA102-202 for the 3080 LHR, GA104-302 for the 3070 LHR etc. Still remains to be seen if these are going to replace all of the gamer parts Nvidia makes, if it is only a niche thing for certain AIBs like the KO parts, if the AIB partners are going to do like Galax and clearly mark the LHR versions of if it is going to be a stealth rollout, etc. Cygni fucked around with this message at 20:19 on May 8, 2021 |
|
#
?
May 8, 2021 20:17
|
|
|
I want to believe this will make it easier to find a GPU but the scalpers will probably just expand into the gap left by reduced miner demand.
|
|
#
?
May 8, 2021 20:18
|
|
|
Also if the LHR versions are even slightly cheaper than the regular ones, and the block isn't physically burned into the chip die, the crypto assholes will immediately figure out a way to un-nerf them and they'll become just as scarce.
|
|
#
?
May 8, 2021 20:39
|
|
|
Sagebrush posted:Also if the LHR versions are even slightly cheaper than the regular ones, and the block isn't physically burned into the chip die, the crypto assholes will immediately figure out a way to un-nerf them and they'll become just as scarce. The LHR versions are using a new revision of the silicon, so the assumption is that the block is physical in some way. But it may also just be some sort of basic killswitch if it detects a modified driver or something of that sort. Probably won't know until someone gets one in their hands because I doubt Nvidia is going to want to share too much.
|
|
#
?
May 8, 2021 20:59
|
|
|
jisforjosh posted:Honestly if you're only going to be playing online shooters, your reaction time is going to be such that A. You're going to want as many frames and lack of input latency as possible (so no RTX and no DLSS) and B. You're not really going to be noticing those effects You get like 40% additional fps in CoD tho with DLSS quality, and you can use it without Raytracing.
|
|
#
?
May 8, 2021 22:10
|
|
|
Maxwell Adams posted:The name is a huge disappointment. FSR? That sucks. They should take a lesson from themselves and call it FreeLSS. No, it should be Reactive Acceleration Game Enhancement.
|
|
#
?
May 9, 2021 00:03
|
|
|
The Ferret King posted:You misunderstand what's going on in the world right now. a pandemic that's affected manufacturing
|
|
#
?
May 9, 2021 12:29
|
|
|
ijyt posted:a pandemic that's affected manufacturing It's more than that and I'm not about to go on a sermon about Marx or Capitalism - it's just... more than that. This is a bigger problem than unfucking an airport delay which everyone seems to treat it like. It's not. Because we live in a global economy now there's no magic ship full of GPUs destined for your living room when there are closer, less tightly regulated, faster sales to make with fewer middle-men. We're competing with every corporate client who has an agreement with resellers to get cards before you. Because we live in a national economy more locally there's no magic truck full of GPUs rolling down to your best buy. You will constantly compete with every person in the United States & a number of shell people with shipping addresses in the United States to buy every card posted online. You're dealing with 10,000 bots, people with 30 newegg accounts. Not sure if this was your post but whenever people compare the world to the mid 2000s when only basically the people on SA were online I have to laugh. My retired mom plays the Win an Xbox taco bell game now on her phone. Her retired disabled neighbor is entering the newegg shuffle to get her kid a GPU. There is no downward price pressure on GPUs and because of the scalping, there won't need to be any for a long time.
|
|
#
?
May 9, 2021 12:55
|
|
|
cool post but i don't live in the US
|
|
#
?
May 9, 2021 13:21
|
|
|
In the case of GPUs the scalping is just a reflection of an imbalance between supply and demand. These aren't artificially constrained products like idiot shoes and Ferraris that are intended to resell far above sticker, they're ordinary products experiencing a massive demand spike that can't be satisfied by existing production. This is going to be a long-term issue with semiconductors until significantly more production capacity can be built, which will take years and years. We can hope that there's another crypto crash soon, but with the ongoing money printer go brrr policies people are more inclined to get into crypto than get out of it. I think our only hope for minor relief is that the various effects of post-covid normalization can help somewhat. That or things get so bad that people start wanting to move out of crypto into durable physical goods.
|
|
#
?
May 9, 2021 13:26
|
|
|
ijyt posted:cool post but i don't live in the US "we live in a global market for these, they arent just toys for rich westerners" "this doesn't impact me because i dont live in the US" (I know I said some other stuff there but come the gently caress on)
|
|
#
?
May 9, 2021 13:30
|
|
|
As fun as this conversation is to read, let's move on.
|
|
#
?
May 9, 2021 18:55
|
|
|
Tangibly related but intel is having serious wifi chip shortages so AMD just introduced their own wifi 6e chip which on paper looks pretty good. Also battery measurement controller chips, quote:
Things are fuckin wild right now. I have to imagine that we are going to see serious laptop shortages if both of those aren’t resolved before the new school year that’s for sure.
|
|
#
?
May 9, 2021 22:33
|
|
|
MarcusSA posted:Things are fuckin wild right now. I have to imagine that we are going to see serious laptop shortages if both of those aren’t resolved before the new school year that’s for sure.
|
|
#
?
May 9, 2021 22:41
|
|
|
DerekSmartymans posted:gently caress Drelzna, man. I know there are worse camps, but that was the only one I ever participated in. Hell I camped Fishbone Earrings on three chars and all three combined was about 10 minutes (the first two camps years apart the guy was 1) up when I got there, and 2) dropped on the kill!). 
|
|
#
?
May 10, 2021 01:56
|
|
|
|
|
#
?
May 10, 2021 02:06
|
|
|
|
|
#
?
May 10, 2021 02:12
|
|
|
I wonder if Gigabyte's pre-built desktops include the exploding power supply, too
|
|
#
?
May 10, 2021 02:28
|
|
|
I have an Aorus mobo and an Aorus GPU and I still cringe at their weird eagle logo. It's apparently supposed to be the lower jaw, but also looks like a weird flexing arm. And when I picture at as a lower jaw I just get this mental impression of the dumbest, dorkiest war cry ever.
|
|
#
?
May 10, 2021 02:30
|
|
|
Wait, I had a Gigabyte Eagle 3060 ti before this 3070... how can a company brand its lower and higher-end products with the exact same image and just change the name a little? That's insanely stupid
|
|
#
?
May 10, 2021 02:35
|
|
|
|
|
#
?
May 10, 2021 02:36
|
|
|
Come on baby let's get some ECS and Biostar prebuilts going Maybe a Yeston prebuilt, really lean into the cat GPU aesthetic
|
|
#
?
May 10, 2021 02:36
|
|
|
change my name posted:Wait, I had a Gigabyte Eagle 3060 ti before this 3070... how can a company brand its lower and higher-end products with the exact same image and just change the name a little? That's insanely stupid I'm pretty sure the eagle for the non-Aorus stuff was a little less aggressive/dumb looking, but some quick searching is not helping me verify that.
|
|
#
?
May 10, 2021 02:41
|
|
|
Aorus is their premium brand Eagle is their basic brand Aorus has the eagle logo, Eagle doesn't
|
|
#
?
May 10, 2021 02:45
|
|
|
That’s seems really loving stupid
|
|
#
?
May 10, 2021 02:55
|
|
|
all the graphics cards brands have dumb as poo poo product line names. what the gently caress is an AORUS? or a VENTUS? or a STRIX? lol evga literally gonna call your cards FTW? what is this, 2003? also yeah lol @ the screamin' eagle. i like MSI's dragon logo because they have a mascot version that looks like a derpy pokemon 
|
|
#
?
May 10, 2021 03:05
|
|
|
lol imagine paying extra for these marketing logos Fortunate for Gigabyte they used to give a pretty good deal for the Windforce or "Gigabyte Gaming" parts. They had fans that stopped at idle at a time when others wanted to upsell you these needless sub-brands.
|
|
#
?
May 10, 2021 03:23
|
|
|
msi dragon owns because it's the closest thing to cover boxes back in the day
|
|
#
?
May 10, 2021 03:41
|
|
|
CaptainSarcastic posted:I have an Aorus mobo and an Aorus GPU and I still cringe at their weird eagle logo. It's apparently supposed to be the lower jaw, but also looks like a weird flexing arm. And when I picture at as a lower jaw I just get this mental impression of the dumbest, dorkiest war cry ever. That can’t be right It looks way, way too wrong as a lower jaw. Also nothing can be stupider than “Republic of Gamers” and the dumbshit Bad Boy-esque “frowning eyes” logo they’ve got It looks like something that would get rejected from a 2001-era Big Dogs t shirt
|
|
#
?
May 10, 2021 03:57
|
|
|
At least a strix is a real thing
|
|
#
?
May 10, 2021 04:10
|
|
|
change my name posted:At least a strix is a real thing quote:The strix (plural striges or strixes), in the mythology of classical antiquity, was a bird of ill omen, the product of metamorphosis, that fed on human flesh and blood. It also referred to witches and related malevolent folkloric beings.
|
|
#
?
May 10, 2021 04:14
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 19, 2024 05:32 |
|
|
Given that Gigabyte has arguably the worst customer service/RMA reputation out of all AIBs, I sense many tears from anyone who buys that system and has to utilize the warranty.
|
|
#
?
May 10, 2021 04:18
|
|