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FCKGW posted:Latest poll shows the recall campaign is going nowhere if the rock runs and polls like poo poo I'm going to post "looks like folks aren't smelling what the Rock is cooking"
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Shear Modulus posted:Yeah that's why it would be logical for the dems to run an Acceptable Alternative for pro-gavin people to vote for in the second vote but the California Dem machine won't allow even that amount of disloyalty They should run Schmavin Schmewsom, a bland acceptable centrist Democrat with a beard, and if the Recall is successful, he just takes off his beard patches. 
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May 16, 2021 17:49
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DrSunshine posted:That's moronic. First past the post baby, that's how we do it in the land of the free. If you wanted to win the election, should have gotten the most votes. 
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May 16, 2021 20:17
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Shear Modulus posted:Yeah that's why it would be logical for the dems to run an Acceptable Alternative for pro-gavin people to vote for in the second vote but the California Dem machine won't allow even that amount of disloyalty What? No that’s a terrible idea. The entire point is to make sure question 1 never passes, making it a choice between Gavin and some republican. Putting a credible dem on the ballot means you run the risk of pulling 98% of GOP voters and half the Dems, getting you over the threshold for question 1 and guaranteeing a republican governor.
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May 16, 2021 20:28
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What you need is an electrifying personality like a Cruz Bustamante that the Dems can rally around
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The Democrats should amend the state constitution to reform the recall process - maybe require that more than a measly 12% of the electorate is required for approval of a recall, or maybe just get rid of it all altogether. They have supermajorities in both chambers of the state legislature.
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FCKGW posted:What? No that’s a terrible idea. The entire point is to make sure question 1 never passes, making it a choice between Gavin and some republican. Putting a credible dem on the ballot means you run the risk of pulling 98% of GOP voters and half the Dems, getting you over the threshold for question 1 and guaranteeing a republican governor. everyone is supposed to vote for the second vote even if they vote to keep Newsom. It's not "who do you want to be governor," it's "should Gavin be recalled" and then "if Gavin is recalled, who should be governor." Right now their only choices in the second vote are republicans. If one dem and 5 republicans run then even if Newsom loses the recall then another Dem replaces him. I don't see how giving Dem voters nobody to vote for in the second vote helps Gavin get any more votes in the other vote. If someone didn't want to vote for Newsom and for instead wanted to vote for another dem then saying "it's newsom or nobody" isn't going to make them vote for him, it's going to make them not vote and help the catelyn jenner win the second vote with 10%
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May 16, 2021 22:58
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Yeah, put Becerra as the backup recall candidate but keep minimal publicity, besides making it clear "if the recall goes through this is our guy".
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May 16, 2021 23:14
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Pretty sure the lieutenant governor is on the ballot?
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Sydin posted:Pretty sure the lieutenant governor is on the ballot? Nope, as of now there are six declared Dem candidates but they're all nobodies. Edit: political types seem to think Bustamante hurt Davis in 2003, but that's pretty dumb because Davis was DOA as soon as Schwarzenegger declared. Newsom keeping others from running because he thinks that a strong Dem on the ballot might encourage a yes vote on the recall is petty and shortsighted, but "petty and shortsighted" is basically the California Liberal motto so it's to be expected. Wicked Them Beats fucked around with this message at 23:28 on May 16, 2021 |
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May 16, 2021 23:22
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maybe batman will finally be elected in our state thanks gavin
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Sydin posted:First past the post baby, that's how we do it in the land of the free. If you wanted to win the election, should have gotten the most votes. *Does not apply to the Presidency.
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I don't know about you but I'm voting for Eric Andre
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Wicked Them Beats posted:Edit: political types seem to think Bustamante hurt Davis in 2003, but that's pretty dumb because Davis was DOA as soon as Schwarzenegger declared. Newsom keeping others from running because he thinks that a strong Dem on the ballot might encourage a yes vote on the recall is petty and shortsighted, but "petty and shortsighted" is basically the California Liberal motto so it's to be expected. My take on this election is that not having a backup centrist democrat consensus candidate probably doesn't matter much. I don't see many worlds where Gavbot 1.0 gets recalled but Gavbot 2.0 wins.
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:*Does not apply to the Presidency. If nothing else it's poetic that our country is being choked to death in large part by political systems that were originally set up to protect the interests of slave holders.
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Tokyo is one of the most densely populated cities in the world and their rent is only $600-$1200 lol. And I'm not talking about those weird pod things I'm talking about multiple room appts.
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adoration for none posted:Tokyo is one of the most densely populated cities in the world and their rent is only $600-$1200 lol. And I'm not talking about those weird pod things I'm talking about multiple room appts. Unless your definition of multiple rooms means "has a bathroom" then this is absolutely not true. For that price you'd be looking at like a 150sqft tiny studio anywhere within 30 minutes of Shinjuku. Maybe if you're in like Yokohama far away from the train you could get a decent apartment for that price, but certainly not anywhere close to the main parts of Tokyo. Anywhere that's bigger than a shoebox (let's say >300sqft) is gonna be closer to $2000/month. On a per-sqft basis it's not much cheaper than the Bay Area - maybe 20-30% at most. The thing that Tokyo actually does well is they build a diverse range of housing. Even in the nice neighborhoods you have 150sqft units renting for $1000/month getting built right next to penthouses going for $10,000+/month. New construction is not just luxury units like it is here in California. They also generally build things smaller - a typical 1br is like 400-500sqft there, vs 600-700sqft here, which allows more housing and cheaper prices.
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Tokyo (and Japan) also have great public transportation unlike the states.
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DoomTrainPhD posted:Tokyo (and Japan) also have great public transportation unlike the states. This can’t be emphasized enough and it’s hard for us Americans to understand because public transit is complete dogshit here outside of a handful of urban cores. You can live in some no name far flung suburb in Tokyo and chances are there’s a well serviced express line that goes anywhere in the interior city.
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They even kept a stop open for one person https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4BhiGKFtUA4
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still waiting for a definition of "luxury housing" because it sure ain't in the building code, housing laws, or anywhere else
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Greg12 posted:still waiting for a definition of "luxury housing" because it sure ain't in the building code, housing laws, or anywhere else Stainless steel clad appliances Fake wood floors Divided sinks where both sides are too small to wash your largest pan A lounge on the bottom floor that no one ever uses
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May 18, 2021 18:59
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Don't you come for my vinyl flooring.
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Greg12 posted:still waiting for a definition of "luxury housing" because it sure ain't in the building code, housing laws, or anywhere else luxury housing is just as functional as regular housing but more expensive. just like a rolex doesn't tell time any better than a $30 timex
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Greg12 posted:still waiting for a definition of "luxury housing" because it sure ain't in the building code, housing laws, or anywhere else Starting at $3,200/month in rent for an apartment that really should be going for half that at most.
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Luxury housing is anything in a large, new development. It is not necessarily luxurious.
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Cup Runneth Over posted:Don't you come for my vinyl flooring. While reading over the lease for my new apartment (first in 12 years) I noticed there were Prop 65 warnings in there specifically because of the vinyl floors. And a section just for P65 warnings about generic plastic too separated at the end of the packet.
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The Glumslinger posted:Divided sinks where both sides are too small to wash your largest pan Uggghhhhhhhh that's the worst, love 2 have reduced functionality in my sink
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Shear Modulus posted:luxury housing is just as functional as regular housing but more expensive. just like a rolex doesn't tell time any better than a $30 timex
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I don't think it's about what's inside. It's about whether it returns more and stores more Capital. That's all there is to it.
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Luxury Housing means "amenities I'll never use because I'm too busy, but I'll point them out to guests" Or "Stuff to keep me away from the poors" It's all about selling this image of having rooftop wines next to a fire pit. But I'm of the opinion that stuff should be offered wherever possible at even the lovely poor people apartments but the riche fucks can't even stay up with the upkeep so gently caress that chance.
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Friend of mine lives in a "luxury" townhouse that was only built six years ago, and the place is more rapidly falling apart than my old place that was built in 1952. Visible cracking of the drywall where it meets the ceiling, tons of plumbing and electrical problems, and more. They just threw up something on the cheap, gave it a nice coat of stucco, and called it "luxury".
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"Luxury" means the developer spent a few thousand extra dollars on fancier fixtures (countertops, tiles, faucets, etc.) so he bump the price of the unit by many tens of thousands of dollars. If you can turn a $600k condo into a $700k condo just by spending an extra $10k on granite countertops and fancy backsplash tiles and calling it "luxury", then guess what - every condo/apartment/house is going to be a "luxury" unit.
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Sydin posted:Friend of mine lives in a "luxury" townhouse that was only built six years ago, and the place is more rapidly falling apart than my old place that was built in 1952. Visible cracking of the drywall where it meets the ceiling, tons of plumbing and electrical problems, and more. They just threw up something on the cheap, gave it a nice coat of stucco, and called it "luxury".
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Luxury just means new, market rate construction.
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Centrist Committee posted:Luxury just means new, market rate construction. Not new construction necessarily, recently renovated buildings are also "luxury," especially downtown.
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Sydin posted:Friend of mine lives in a "luxury" townhouse that was only built six years ago, and the place is more rapidly falling apart than my old place that was built in 1952. Visible cracking of the drywall where it meets the ceiling, tons of plumbing and electrical problems, and more. They just threw up something on the cheap, gave it a nice coat of stucco, and called it "luxury". That's defective construction. It's a game builders play. They're on the hook (usually) for 10 years for any and all defective construction as defined by California Civil Code 896 and 897. They try to build just well enough that expensive stuff will last 10 years. Drywall cracking is almost certainly not shoddy drywall work, but rather foundation movement (and certain developers love to skimp on foundation recommendations and design).
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"luxury" means absolutely nothing at all. Apartments that are "luxury" when built become affordable as the building ages and city and which neighborhoods in it are considered desirable change. And in places like SF where housing growth hasn't kept up with demand, housing that was once affordable becomes "luxury" simply due to where it is. If gentrification has an aesthetic, it isn't newer gray apartment buildings or granite countertops or whatever, that's just what modern construction looks like. It's older buildings that were cheap in the past being renovated and marked up. Fill Baptismal fucked around with this message at 06:01 on May 19, 2021 |
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luxury housing is like gaming pcs/devices. basically the same (sometimes even lower quality than regular stuff) but has a few token bells and whistles and shiny lights and 4x the price
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