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CoolCab posted:yeah but it's not BTC that's getting mined, the price of eth will most likely decide it. https://twitter.com/dreamcazt/status/1395042066242019331 crapto is not what is traditionally considered "diversified" On topic, here is a very cool lecture/presentation about DLSS I watched recently: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5knHzv0IQE when it comes down to it it's basically just extraordinarily good TAA. Sagebrush fucked around with this message at 23:25 on May 20, 2021 |
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Just wanted to chime in and say that from my perspective, I think the thread has been on the right track. As long as it's discussing the technical aspects of GPU hardware related to crypto, or how crypto is affecting GPU availability, I think we're good. What I think sets us down the wrong path is talking about the details of mining, BFC chat around mining, and the morality of it. Thanks everyone. I know it's a fine line and I think we're doing good so far.
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Sagebrush posted:On topic, here is a very cool lecture/presentation about DLSS I watched recently: If it's basically TAA that means it should be pretty easy to implement if you've already gone as far as to do TAA, no?
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CoolCab posted:apologies, i didn't mean to set off cryptochat - my point was exactly that, that looking at the price of bitcoin to be predictive here is kind of irrational. putting aside the wider economy which can be better discussed elsewhere, the magic number to watch to make our GPUs no longer money printing machines is right next to ETH, not BTC. if mining is a significant draw on demand (and we'll see if it is, and how much) that is why.
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AccountSupervisor posted:Shout out to SourKraut for hooking me up with that 3060ti at an extremely fair price and sparing me anymore next-gen GPU misery. Sorry I hadn't responded to your PM yet, but thank you, and happy to get it into the hands of someone who needs it!
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1: I got an RTX 3070 from EVGA's queue. Is it likely to be a lower hash rate chip? Doesn't matter to me, but might matter on resale if I end up not liking it. 2: I've seen some pci-E scaling results that show x4 vs x16 doesn't make that big of a difference in graphics performance, but it seems going over a x4 thunderbolt link slows down performance more. Why? 3: pairing it with an XPS15 (the new 9510, so i7-11800H tiger lake H), if I run the native screen on the 3050ti (45W) at 1200p, and an eGPU setup with the 3070 to a 1440p or 4k screen, how are they going to compare at the same settings aside from resolution?
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https://twitter.com/Oculus_Dev/status/1395502670681493504 Fun breakdown
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ilkhan posted:1: I got an RTX 3070 from EVGA's queue. Is it likely to be a lower hash rate chip? Doesn't matter to me, but might matter on resale if I end up not liking it. Unless it's currently branded as an LHR SKU, I'd expect it to be full hash rate.
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ilkhan posted:2: I've seen some pci-E scaling results that show x4 vs x16 doesn't make that big of a difference in graphics performance, but it seems going over a x4 thunderbolt link slows down performance more. Why? if you are connecting to an eGPU over thunderbolt, that PCIe connection goes through the PCH. It's in contention with almost all of the rest of the IO in your system, typically that is where SATA is attached, network controllers, M.2 slots (on pre-Rocket Lake Intel and some laptops), etc - and it always adds some switching overhead/latency.
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ilkhan posted:1: I got an RTX 3070 from EVGA's queue. Is it likely to be a lower hash rate chip? Doesn't matter to me, but might matter on resale if I end up not liking it. If it is then it supposedly won't effect anything but Ethereum mining - gaming and productivity app performance (blender, maya, etc) should be unaffected. Unless you were planning on Ethereum mining with it then it should be just fine for your needs.
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ilkhan posted:1: I got an RTX 3070 from EVGA's queue. Is it likely to be a lower hash rate chip? Doesn't matter to me, but might matter on resale if I end up not liking it. LHR chips haven't been released to retail yet - you're good. They will also be clearly marked because nVidia doesn't want to run afoul of truth-in-advertising laws.
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Spacedad posted:If it is then it supposedly won't effect anything but Ethereum mining - gaming and productivity app performance (blender, maya, etc) should be unaffected. Buff Hardback posted:Unless it's currently branded as an LHR SKU, I'd expect it to be full hash rate. Shipon posted:LHR chips haven't been released to retail yet - you're good. They will also be clearly marked because nVidia doesn't want to run afoul of truth-in-advertising laws. Paul MaudDib posted:if you are connecting to an eGPU over thunderbolt, that PCIe connection goes through the PCH. It's in contention with almost all of the rest of the IO in your system, typically that is where SATA is attached, network controllers, M.2 slots (on pre-Rocket Lake Intel and some laptops), etc - and it always adds some switching overhead/latency. Primary SSD will be on the CPU x4 port (tiger lake has 20 lanes, I wish dell would do x8 GPU / x4 thunderbolt / x4 SSD / x4 SSD, that would be awesome but I dont think Intel gives them that option) and secondary (linux / games) will be on the PCH m.2 slot. I'll keep my main games on the primary, maybe that will help? I'll do plenty of testing before deciding if I want to keep the card.
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Kunabomber posted:They're legit - I've ordered an SF600 from them when everywhere else was sold out. I was on their waiting list for the SF750 when I managed to snag one from Corsair's website. No muss, no fuss cancellation on that one. Before this shitshow it seems like most of their revenue came from B2B sales because every single order seems to be filled by hand by a sales agent, and you can still order up to 50 video cards at a time. their site still has pre orders avail for rtx cards so i wonder about that
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So apparently, Nvidia FE cards won't have the LHR nerf on them. The resale/scalped value of founders edition cards might go through the roof since they'll be the only ampere cards that will still be useful for mining. https://www.pcgamer.com/nvidia-lhr-cards-no-founders-edition/ quote:"Founders Edition is a limited production graphics card sold at MSRP," Nvidia told us this afternoon, "and at this point we don’t have plans to make versions with LHR." Silver lining is that maybe miners lay off AIB stock, but on the other hand regular Joes can probably say goodbye to any hope of scoring an ampere FE card. mA fucked around with this message at 04:05 on May 21, 2021 |
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mA posted:So apparently, Nvidia FE cards won't have the LHR nerf on them. The resale/scalped value of founders edition cards might go through the roof since they'll be the only ampere cards that will still be useful for mining. I read this as "NVIDIA isn't going to make any more FE cards"
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May 21, 2021 04:06
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The FE cards always seemed like an unrealistic doorcrasher special thing anyway. None of the board manufacturers were selling their cards as cheaply as nVidia was, even before the tariffs and the gouging and the scalping. An EVGA whatever with a tiny factory overclock and some cheap LEDs was like +100 over the nVidia reference card. The few people who got a $699 3080 FE from the nVidia store before it was botted to oblivion got a better deal on graphics hardware than we'll ever see again.
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May 21, 2021 04:08
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Whoever managed to snag one of the 2080tis that got dumped for cheap when the 3080/90 were announced are feeling pretty good too.
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Enos Cabell posted:Whoever managed to snag one of the 2080tis that got dumped for cheap when the 3080/90 were announced are feeling pretty good too. Conversely, the people who panic-sold their 2080Tis in the second week of September for $500 were some of the unluckiest motherfuckers of all time
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Bofast posted:I have Skyrim: SE on Steam and it seems to include all the standard expansions/DLCs baked in. Kick rear end! Would you also happen to know if older-but-maintained-mods work? I have a couple of non-graphical mods that I would love to add just to play on my new-ish 3070.
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I've had a bit more time with the 6800XT and I'm starting to think something is wrong with it, or the rest of my computer (I upgraded to a 3600 so I'm not running an i5 anymore). I fired up Hitman 2 and when it shows the menus it makes the most horrific coil whine noise I've ever heard. It's because the menus are running at 2000fps if v-sync isn't enabled, so I supposed I shouldn't complain too much, but it's not what I want to be hearing. Under regular load it's pretty quiet. What's worse is when I run the levels I'm getting 50-60 FPS. For example this guy here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7G9fK5753Xw seems to be getting ~80-100 FPS on worse hardware, and if I walk the exact same route with the exact same settings I'm getting < 60 fps. Review sites seem to show it easily clearing 60 FPS in the benchmarks. The settings can be a little hard to tell, but I should probably be a getting over 60. Dirt Rally 2 also dips under 60 every now and then, which is pretty annoying in a racing game. I feel like something just isn't right here.
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Nice Van My Man posted:I've had a bit more time with the 6800XT and I'm starting to think something is wrong with it, or the rest of my computer (I upgraded to a 3600 so I'm not running an i5 anymore). I fired up Hitman 2 and when it shows the menus it makes the most horrific coil whine noise I've ever heard. It's because the menus are running at 2000fps if v-sync isn't enabled, so I supposed I shouldn't complain too much, but it's not what I want to be hearing. Under regular load it's pretty quiet. What's worse is when I run the levels I'm getting 50-60 FPS. For example this guy here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7G9fK5753Xw seems to be getting ~80-100 FPS on worse hardware, and if I walk the exact same route with the exact same settings I'm getting < 60 fps. Review sites seem to show it easily clearing 60 FPS in the benchmarks. The settings can be a little hard to tell, but I should probably be a getting over 60. After you replaced your CPU+Mobo did you do a fresh install of Windows? You replaced a lot of old parts. How much wattage is your power supply rated for? Did you uninstall nvidia drivers before installing AMD's? Coil whine can be prevented by setting max fan speed to 99% or so instead of letting hit 100%.
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Just wanted to share this lucky chap who scored a 3080 from newegg shuffle to complete their build. Some pics too: https://imgur.com/gallery/1hvDImx And yes, they're using it for gaming, not mining.
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DerekSmartymans posted:Kick rear end! Would you also happen to know if older-but-maintained-mods work? I have a couple of non-graphical mods that I would love to add just to play on my new-ish 3070. You'll need mods that are specifically made for it, it's a different category/game on Nexus. But basically all mods worth getting have been ported.
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change my name posted:I read this as "NVIDIA isn't going to make any more FE cards" Me too. They may keep selling the 3090 FE since it's the flagship card but I bet the others are EOL soon. Their job was to get good reviews and make the brand look premium and that job is done. Nvidia knows it's leaving money on the table selling them at msrp, especially since most of the cards Best Buy sells are probably just getting flipped by scalpers.
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Geemer posted:You'll need mods that are specifically made for it, it's a different category/game on Nexus. But basically all mods worth getting have been ported. Thanks! Figured asking here is quicker and easier than asking on Steam 
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Spacedad posted:Here's footage of him threatening people who moved up on the empty seats that his hired proxies were taking up space in the line with.
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FilthyImp posted:Lol he talks like what a white 50 year old dude thinks "urbans" would talk like. The micro center subreddit is one of the more dystopian and depressing message boards. Just from lurking for a few minutes I learned that the Tustin Microcenter has it's own syndicate/cartel who has ruled the GPU line since December, while reddit internet warriors are fantasizing at the chance of starting a shootout with them mA fucked around with this message at 06:54 on May 21, 2021 |
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DerekSmartymans posted:Kick rear end! Would you also happen to know if older-but-maintained-mods work? I have a couple of non-graphical mods that I would love to add just to play on my new-ish 3070. As far as I know mods for regular old Skyrim probably don't work out-of-the-box. Nexusmods, for example, has an entire separate game category for Skyrim:SE, so you would probably need to check if the mods in question have been ported to there For convenience: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition Edit: beaten, should have read to the end before replying
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Bofast posted:As far as I know mods for regular old Skyrim probably don't work out-of-the-box. Nexusmods, for example, has an entire separate game category for Skyrim:SE, so you would probably need to check if the mods in question have been ported to there No, this is fine. I missed my chance at half price, and tbh I’ve played all but the last two dlc, so I’ll wait for a sale again. I still have the 11-11-11 dvd in my attic. I will bookmark that site you mentioned, of course.
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I've got a window AC pretty near my PC (after rearranging my room). Should I be worried about condensation?
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Rinkles posted:I've got a window AC pretty near my PC (after rearranging my room). Should I be worried about condensation? AC reduces humidity, so you should be fine.
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condensation occurs if the temperature drops below ambient - your A/C is going to be reducing your ambient temp, and presumably you're not blowing the A/C air directly into your computer such that the thing is cooling faster than the rest of the room is you'll be fine
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OhFunny posted:After you replaced your CPU+Mobo did you do a fresh install of Windows? Yeah, fresh everything. Looks like I'll have to do some benchmarking.
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Nice Van My Man posted:Yeah, fresh everything. Looks like I'll have to do some benchmarking. I doubt either of these options are going to sound ideal but I was suffering from significant coil whine on a 6800xt and a combination of setting a frame rate limiter (either system wide or per-game basis I think is an option) as well as a slight undervolt and downclock of my card has pretty much completely removed all coil whine. The card is only pushing video to a 2K display at 144hz with free sync in my case so I didn’t need a bajillion FPS so I just limited it to 144. The nice side effect of the undervolt is that I was able to set the maximum point of my fan curve to like 45% because I am insane about noise of any kind.
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Don't cap your FPS to 144, Freesync won't work properly. Cap it to 140 or so. Frames have to come slower than refresh time or VRR is disabled and you get standard Vsync latency or no vsync tearing.
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K8.0 posted:Don't cap your FPS to 144, Freesync won't work properly. Cap it to 140 or so. Frames have to come slower than refresh time or VRR is disabled and you get standard Vsync latency or no vsync tearing. Thank you for the heads up — I had forgotten having read that a while back. What’s odd is the display clearly shows the refresh rate moving as I play games via the OSD…
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Nice Van My Man posted:I've had a bit more time with the 6800XT and I'm starting to think something is wrong with it, or the rest of my computer (I upgraded to a 3600 so I'm not running an i5 anymore). I fired up Hitman 2 and when it shows the menus it makes the most horrific coil whine noise I've ever heard. It's because the menus are running at 2000fps if v-sync isn't enabled, so I supposed I shouldn't complain too much, but it's not what I want to be hearing. Under regular load it's pretty quiet. What's worse is when I run the levels I'm getting 50-60 FPS. For example this guy here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7G9fK5753Xw seems to be getting ~80-100 FPS on worse hardware, and if I walk the exact same route with the exact same settings I'm getting < 60 fps. Review sites seem to show it easily clearing 60 FPS in the benchmarks. The settings can be a little hard to tell, but I should probably be a getting over 60. Do you have VSYNC enabled and a target framerate set for both games? This was what caused Baldur's Gate 3 to hit like 40 fps for me when running it with a 3070, disabling the FPS cap (but not VSYNC) fixed it right up
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