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crispix posted:why are they doing it? honestly i expected them to drop it once they'd finally got rid of him as leader. what are they gaining from banging on about him now? :/ Starmer is very inexperienced in parliament and Labour and so does not have a support base within the party - this is why there is not really any such thing as "Starmerism", he doesn't really have a project of his own, nor people who would follow it. This means he's had to staff his office with the few people who profess loyalty, who happen to all be non-MPs; people like Jenny Chapman, David Evans and Mandelson. Because they aren't MPs, they don't have to worry about losing their jobs in an election, so they can keep their cushy jobs and just keep feeding lines to Starmer about he just needs to crush the left a biiiit harder and that will win the public over. Eventually once it becomes clear than even relatively safe right wing MPs are in danger (along with the mostly right wing base of Blairite Labour councillors) they will look into giving Starmer the boot. Which will be very easy - like I said he has no real power base in the party.
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May 24, 2021 17:31
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Their project is directionless and failing, and complaining that everything continues to be Jeremy Corbyn's fault is a handy displacement activity.
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May 24, 2021 17:50
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also, i can't imagine any reason that labour might suddenly be motivated to be slightly more reconciliatory to the vile antisemitic tyrant jeremy corbyn? how strange. on a completely unrelated note, here are all the emails labour have sent one of my email accounts (not even my main) this year alone, including one hilariously spam titled "Urgent: Renovations Required", all of which are begging me to renew the membership i explicitly cancelled the day they kicked corbyn out. it is not including the....four or five separate letters or other mail pamphlets they sent, the two unsolicited phone calls nor the motherfucker they literally sent to knock on my door.  the bottom there is a personal plea from my former labour MP, who had been in the role before I was born all the way until 2010, writing me a letter at 6:04 in the evening from his personal ipad/email account. it's probably because of that amazing membership surge they were recently crowing about that they must have the additional manpower to do this kind of retention work. i'm sure starmer's labour party has a bright future ahead. edit: lmao i missed one "URGENT: Your membership needs renewing NOW" sure pal CoolCab has issued a correction as of 17:53 on May 24, 2021 |
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May 24, 2021 17:50
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Jose posted:yes and supposedly nick brown got the boot as chief whip for saying he should be reinstated haha can i quit the labour party twice?
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May 24, 2021 18:17
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Communist Thoughts posted:haha can i quit the labour party twice? Join the libdems or greens?
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May 24, 2021 18:19
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i heard jeremy corbyn went into the house of lords and farted on all the beanbags on purpose because diane abbot dared him to APOLOGISE JEREMY 
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May 24, 2021 18:22
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gonadic io posted:Join the libdems or greens? i'd be dead in the ground before i join either. either organized labour has a political party or it doesn't, i know where i stand.
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May 24, 2021 18:24
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CoolCab posted:i'd be dead in the ground before i join either. either organized labour has a political party or it doesn't, i know where i stand. Personally I am planning on my next GE vote being for SF
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May 24, 2021 18:25
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what about the communist party ?
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crispix posted:why are they doing it? honestly i expected them to drop it once they'd finally got rid of him as leader. what are they gaining from banging on about him now? :/ the more absurd the lie the harder you have to uncritically buy into it, and as such it's unsurprising that the less cunning shitlibs (i.e. most of them) actually start and keep believing their own propaganda even when it no longer makes any sense to do so
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May 24, 2021 18:27
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euphronius posted:what about the communist party ? the socialist worker party had the whole comrade delta thing not that long ago which was yet another sex creep scandal where the party covered up a rape for an extended period (Trotskyism and weird sex stuff i guess). communist party britain splinters constantly and is kind of a joke, although i think some people spend more time observing it than i. my solution to the current UK political situation is to move as far away as i am legally permitted, lol
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Any communist party that seeks to and then succeeds in getting on the ballot in a bourgeois democracy is probably all cops. If you feel like you have nobody to vote for who doesnt suck poo poo, just stay home. Join the most radical fringe party you can find that is focused on stuff you like and at least the social stuff might be fun
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May 24, 2021 18:32
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Epic High Five posted:Any communist party that seeks to and then succeeds in getting on the ballot in a bourgeois democracy is probably all cops. If you feel like you have nobody to vote for who doesnt suck poo poo, just stay home. Join the most radical fringe party you can find that is focused on stuff you like and at least the social stuff might be fun i suspect my protest votes will go to TUSC but honestly i more suspect i'll stay home, yeah.
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May 24, 2021 18:34
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Jel Shaker posted:is this going to be a “who must go” meme in a couple of years or something It is. I also bet they run someone against him in the likely early 2023 election and the person they run despite spending like 500k £ gets less then Monster Raving Loony party and meanwhile at least two shadow cabinet members lose their seats.
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May 24, 2021 21:36
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Communist Thoughts posted:haha can i quit the labour party twice? lol it owns that starmer is so averse to getting even the slightest push back he fires everyone. he clearly thinks running labour is like running the prosecution service
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May 24, 2021 21:52
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lol they're really loving desperate https://twitter.com/jrc1921/status/1396885612683317249?s=20
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May 24, 2021 21:56
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Communist Thoughts posted:haha can i quit the labour party twice? Sure. I'm positive Maureen Lipman has quit numerous times. Corbyn chat: I think they're concerned that Corbyn is still out there, visibly able to still draw a crowd. Shows Stairmaster up all the time. Jaeluni Asjil has issued a correction as of 23:03 on May 24, 2021 |
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May 24, 2021 22:59
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The thing about libs is they aren't happy with just winning they want you to admit they were right all along. Lib psychology demands they be the smartest and best in the room (which is obviously why they should be in charge) and that's why they will never be happy with victory alone. You have to kiss the ring. And even that isn't enough. You have to grovel constantly WHILE they rub your face in it. You can see this in the US where centrist voltron soundly defeated Bernie and Bernie has gone on to campaign for Biden and grovel endlessly and Biden won! Most of Bernie's fans are either on board with Biden or have gone to the DSA or dropped out completely. There's no Bernie "movement" if there ever was. But it's not enough. And that's why they still scream about BERNIE BROS!
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May 24, 2021 23:21
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i have to agree that it’s mental they’re still going on about corbyn, of course obviously there are tons of reasons why they are, but i’d have thought they’d have atleast come up with something to build their project around
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May 24, 2021 23:21
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:Shows Stairmaster up all the time. is there anybody that doesn't loving peter mandelson is going to outlive him
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Jel Shaker posted:i have to agree that it’s mental they’re still going on about corbyn, of course obviously there are tons of reasons why they are, but i’d have thought they’d have atleast come up with something to build their project around honestly i think this might be it. basically trying to get him to admit something that'll help them win or just throwing absolutely everything at the wall to try and tarnish him further in anticipation of losing https://twitter.com/BareLeft/status/1396883421541056517?s=20
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May 24, 2021 23:26
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i know it’s a small thing but the private eye have started putting letters in which people are quite rightly pointing out how of all the political scandals they cover, for some reason they seem to be picking on corbyn despite lots of evidence of a whole nexus of corruption against him and the previous labour party
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Dr. Kyle Farnsworth posted:The thing about libs is they aren't happy with just winning they want you to admit they were right all along. Lib psychology demands they be the smartest and best in the room (which is obviously why they should be in charge) and that's why they will never be happy with victory alone. You have to kiss the ring. And even that isn't enough. You have to grovel constantly WHILE they rub your face in it. There are still ripples from the Bernie coalition that are significant and terror-inducing for liberals, like how progressives recently took over the Utah Democratic Party. I think the liberal superiority complex stems purely from them being hegemonic but having nothing to show for it. So if liberalism hasn't liberated anybody since WW2 and we're being ground down by the constant state of capitalist immiseration, at least you can feel good about being the most correct and the most powerful. Every right wing political camp has a superiority complex, but liberals have the most power to change things and don't so they're the most annoying about it. Conservatives don't have that problem because they run on promising to change nothing. Business as usual is validating to conservatives but invalidating for liberals, and that's part of why they're perennial losers. Pener Kropoopkin has issued a correction as of 03:08 on May 25, 2021 |
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May 25, 2021 03:04
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Poor Britain, the last stronghold of neoliberal terf island.
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May 25, 2021 03:30
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Jose posted:lol they're really loving desperate More on Jeremy Corbyn Ex-Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn 'alarmed and distressed' after being spat at during COVID crisis Labour antisemitism: Angela Rayner warns 'thousands and thousands' of members could be suspended Jeremy Corbyn supporter spared jail after sending antisemitic abuse and threats to Labour MPs Jeremy Corbyn: Labour's chief whip tells ex-leader to apologise 'unequivocally' for antisemitism remarks Jeremy Corbyn told he will be barred from sitting as Labour MP for three months Jeremy Corbyn 'must make full apology' before returning as Labour MP, says ex-PM Gordon Brown
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May 25, 2021 08:21
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:There are still ripples from the Bernie coalition that are significant and terror-inducing for liberals, like how progressives recently took over the Utah Democratic Party. Wasn't it the Arizona party that got taken over by progressives and caused all the centrists to chuck the biggest wobbly and try to burn down the whole thing?
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May 25, 2021 08:41
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Is this good? https://twitter.com/faisalislam/status/1397110336248074246?s=19
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May 25, 2021 09:42
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May 25, 2021 09:55
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Tbh you can disregard the figures for the first quarter, yeh they suck but our manufacturing industry had been largely shut down. What you got to watch for is that a lot of companies used the shutdown to upgrade outdated equipment, a lot of which will be to automate processes and make low skilled staff obsolete. So we should see profits and exports rise but unemployment in those sectors take a huge rise over the next 6 months.
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May 25, 2021 09:58
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May 25, 2021 10:06
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The Tory report into islamophobia is coming out and well https://twitter.com/PA/status/1397119343478050817?s=19
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May 25, 2021 10:18
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they were weren't trying with this report https://twitter.com/AdamBienkov/status/1397123222823440384?s=20
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May 25, 2021 10:33
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Jose posted:they were weren't trying with this report
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May 25, 2021 11:21
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May 25, 2021 11:37
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agreed, corbyn should have purged the labour right the first opportunity he got, but unfortunately he didn't
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May 25, 2021 11:45
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Cerebral Bore posted:agreed, corbyn should have purged the labour right the first opportunity he got, but unfortunately he didn't
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May 25, 2021 11:54
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I think the only real opportunity he had to sort it was to make open selections pass at conference and he decided not to. Don't think a proper purge was doable otherwise. Labour is now facing a legal challenge as a result of expelling Corbyn for example I suppose he could have enforced a three line whip on something and used that as an excuse the way Boris did
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Jel Shaker posted:i have to agree that it’s mental they’re still going on about corbyn, of course obviously there are tons of reasons why they are, but i’d have thought they’d have atleast come up with something to build their project around Why should they when they don't need to? Keep throwing poo poo and people will keep looking at where the poo poo's being thrown rather than at what the poo poo-throwing's meant to distract them from.
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