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How are u posted:Clearly. Yeah. I've never been much for the "tone police," especially after the last few years. It always feels like I'm being scolded and lectured. Usually because I am!
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I cannot imagine why anyone would see fit to scold someone as well behaved and sociable as yourself.
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Jul 22, 2021 02:05
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Trazz posted:
Huh. You must have some bad luck, running into all those mean people.
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Trazz posted:What exactly does "digging up" entail here? I've been dealing with theists and smugnostics for like 20 years, this isn't even the worst I've seen It means do the opposite of whatever the gently caress you think this will accomplish.
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Jul 22, 2021 02:07
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Also organized atheism collapsed into reactionary islamophobia and incel womanhating almost immediately. Supernatural belief isn’t the issue when it comes to political violence or fascism. America has just developed a brand of authoritarian protestantism that overlaps significantly with fascism.
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Jul 22, 2021 02:13
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Uglycat posted:Huh. You must have some bad luck, running into all those mean people. Honestly it doesn't happen all that often! Most people learn that it's rude to scold others.
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Jul 22, 2021 02:14
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Trazz posted:Most people learn that it's rude to scold others. So how come you haven't?
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:So how come you haven't? I mean literally the only problem I have is my "tone" so how am I not the one being scolded again? And once again, 
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Jul 22, 2021 02:20
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Trazz posted:I mean literally the only problem I have is my "tone" so how am I not the one being scolded again? Just stop posting!
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Jul 22, 2021 02:21
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packetmantis posted:Just stop posting! Fine.
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Jul 22, 2021 02:24
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Trazz posted:Yes, in my 20ish years of atheism I have in fact had many arguments about it. Most of those arguments boil down to "You're (insert x age here)?!" Y'know if you were the ultra-rationalist intellectual superman you claim to be you should be able to take a step back and look at what the common denominator in all those discussions was. Maybe people keep assuming you're a child because you argue like a child?
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Jul 22, 2021 02:25
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Trazz posted:Yes, in my 20ish years of atheism I have in fact had many arguments about it. Most of those arguments boil down to "You're (insert x age here)?!" We can’t believe it because you argue like a child. There’s almost nobody left here who posts like that except maybe jrod if he’s still around.
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Jul 22, 2021 02:27
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Trazz posted:Yeah. I've never been much for the "tone police," especially after the last few years. You'd make a drat fine catholic with a persecution complex like that.
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Jul 22, 2021 02:30
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the tone police they live inside of my head the tone police they come to me in my bed the tone police they're comin' to arrest me oh nooooo
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Jul 22, 2021 02:39
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Trazz posted:Yes, in my 20ish years of atheism I have in fact had many arguments about it. Most of those arguments boil down to "You're (insert x age here)?!" I feel like I'm watching the self-own Olympics
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Jul 22, 2021 03:10
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There but for the grace of god go I
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As a former rather rabid atheist (and still nonbeliever) lmao.
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At this moment, I am euphoric,
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LanceHunter posted:The decline of organized religion isn't a victory for atheists, especially since religiosity in general isn't actually in decline. The rise of poo poo like QAnon (and new age woo, and other various "spiritual but not religious" poo poo) is specifically what happens when organized religion is in decline but the majority of people still want to fulfill the religious impulse.
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s at "I had many arguments with my parents about this poo poo". 36 years old, everyone!
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Trazz posted:Fine. Thank God.
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IPlayVideoGames posted:https://mobile.twitter.com/debdrens/status/1417472760096428033 *I'm copyrighting this phrase do not steal
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collocation posted:Thank God. Heh God heh
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Getting bent out of shape about people believing in pixies and imaginary friends seems very silly when there's plenty of examples of good and kind people who happen to believe in hocus pocus but it doesn't turn them bad, unlike some other fake made-up concepts people believe in that are always harmful like money or priesthood or nationalism. E: and the internet New Atheist movement turned out to be very very big on that last one, with horrific results for millions and millions of innocent people. VitalSigns fucked around with this message at 20:32 on Jul 23, 2021 |
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VitalSigns posted:Getting bent out of shape about people believing in pixies and imaginary friends seems very silly when there's plenty of examples of good and kind people who happen to believe in hocus pocus but it doesn't turn them bad, unlike some other fake made-up concepts people believe in that are always harmful like money or priesthood or nationalism Yeah, and while say, the Catholic church itself may be rotten to the core, there are a lot of neighborhood churches that do a lot of honest-to-god (heh, god) good work in their communities. i've recently started working with nonprofits lately, and i've worked with so many church fundraising and volunteer data and I've certainly found myself stepping back and seeing that, for whatever stuff people believe in, they can often serve as a strong foundation of community organizing - maybe not full on leftie communal society but the number of small ones I've been working with, just over the last couple of months, that host clothing and food drives and do boots on the ground work to help people has been enlightening to say the least.
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I earnestly believe that Satan and God have been inverted. God is malicious, spiteful, violent, causes war. Satan teaches you to respect those who are decent, take care of yourself, strive for better, try. My belief is just as stupid AND real as Christians.
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Every few decades people keep independently turning into Gnostics, it's like with evolution and crabs.
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Guavanaut posted:Every few decades people keep independently turning into Gnostics, it's like with evolution and crabs. These are the Silt Verses, and I name its disciples thus 
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Guavanaut posted:Every few decades people keep independently turning into Gnostics, it's like with evolution and crabs. It's pretty reasonable to assume that the world we live in must be hell and that if it was made deliberately, its creator must be evil.
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I have no problem with belief but if you look at the evidence of the world and believe in an omnipotent, loving God...well I have couple of billion holes in that theory, that's all I am saying. But beliefs themselves can be good, even illogical ones, if they are actually followed.
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My prison survival strategy prevents me from going full atheist.
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DarkCrawler posted:I have no problem with belief but if you look at the evidence of the world and believe in an omnipotent, loving God...well I have couple of billion holes in that theory, that's all I am saying. But beliefs themselves can be good, even illogical ones, if they are actually followed. The Greeks had a decent answer to the problem of evil. Why do bad things happen to good people? Because the gods are vain self-absorbed petty assholes who don't really care about you! Why worship them then? Because they'll gently caress your poo poo up for impiety if you don't!
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Yes, but Greek culture was also in many ways self-reliant in a way that's alien to the modern religious world. It was part of why Mystery Cults and later Christianity took off in the first place. One of the themes of the Iliad - more than just an epic but indeed one of the foundational cornerstones of ancient Greek culture - was that you cannot rely upon the gods for anything. Piety was important and it was vital for the survival of the state and the prosperity of one's self and family that you avoid angering the gods, but you absolutely could not rely upon them to do anything more than the bare minimum. An ancient Greek person would probably view the idea that God will save us from climate change with the same degree of incredulity as the most hardline atheist does. Like the way the world of classical antiquity understood the divine and its relationship with the material was quite different from how Christianity understood and understands things. For one thing, the idea of objective truth was kind of alien. Truths, at least religious ones, were truths for times and places. In Greece you would honor the Olympians because they were the Truth of Greece, while in Egypt you would honor the Neter because they were the Truth of Egypt. Christianity, in many ways a perfect demonstration of the paradox of tolerance in action, changed all that by declaring that there was only one true God, one true religion, and one true way of experiencing that truth.
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Religion is literally delusional, as delusional as Qanon. It's obvious that Qanon is taking the place of or supplementing religious belief for many of these people. Sorry that upsets some of you. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST) Spinz fucked around with this message at 02:49 on Jul 24, 2021 |
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https://twitter.com/WiseExecutor/status/1418473942767964163 the hilarious collapse of the Brights movement was the push that edgy teen atheist me needed to realize that being a fucker about religion, an extremely common human behavior, was the same as getting snobby about handegg
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Even Dick Dorkins has retreated back to saying he’s a “cultural christian” because hating Muslims is more important than not technically believing in the supernatural.
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pop fly to McGillicutty posted:I earnestly believe that Satan and God have been inverted. God is malicious, spiteful, violent, causes war. Satan teaches you to respect those who are decent, take care of yourself, strive for better, try. Satan is a loving cop 
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Spinz posted:Religion is literally delusional, as delusional as Qanon. It's obvious that Qanon is taking the place of or supplementing religious belief for many of these people. It doesn’t really matter most of the time because 99% of the woo woo nonsense religious people believe in is harmless to outsiders, so who gives a poo poo? It’s the same with the crazy crystal people and the ones who think they’re witches. Save the militant atheist “you know Santa isn’t real either, right  ” bullshit for the ones who are actively trying to mould the world the rest of us have to live in to suit their particular brand of imaginary friend.
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LanceHunter posted:Eugenics laws were the one of the major planks of the early-20th century progressive movement. The same folks who gave us trust-busting, women's suffrage, prohibition, child labor laws, etc. Unfortunately, the good intentions of the movement and its core philosophy of the ability of government to create a better society allowed it to fall prey to the eugenicist's lies about the ability to perfect the human race. This major flaw in early progressivism is an important lessons that we modern progressives need to learn to make sure that we aren't unintentionally falling for some contemporary evil that is disguising itself as a benefit for society. or just flippantly disregarding a clear and present connection because it happens to link through a series of significant white supremacist movements as a result of the topic under discussion being the detectable common motivating factors could be a deeply foolish thing to do! i say you can draw that line because the line is loving there, all of these things are fundamentally like the others
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Spinz posted:Religion is literally delusional, as delusional as Qanon. It's obvious that Qanon is taking the place of or supplementing religious belief for many of these people. https://old.reddit.com/r/atheism
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