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Captain Log
Oct 2, 2006

Now I am become Borb,
the Destroyer of Seeb
In today's article about a POC committing a crime against a sacred white, Fox posters very quickly devolved into their, "I'll answer the question to that puzzle, Pat!" schtick. But then they moved on to violent murder fantasies! These posts were hours old, so Fox seems to actively not give a poo poo about weird murder fantasies.






Having grown up ripped between two parents who had an extremely acrimonious divorce in 1989 when I was five, I have a hard wired habit of always trying to put myself in the opposition's shoes. I grew up split between a world of British born atheists who were socially left, then a family of ultra-conservative ultra-strict hard right Christians. If I made one side happy, I made the other side angry. It sucked. I was conservative until I hit intellectual puberty around fourteen or fifteen and was able to not be literally laying awake scared about sinning against an all mighty God.

But those "both sides" habits don't go away. I often try to think to myself, "How can these people get through life with so much hate bubbling in them? Doesn't it eat them up?"

The depressing answer is simple - They relish it, because they belief in an absolutist, legalist form of religion that makes them always right about everything. Most of these assholes sleep soundly at night. While never having a moment's doubt in their literally being chosen by God to do what they want.

I often think about how to get through to these people. I wonder what the conversion rate from right wing hatred is in the real world. 10% as they grow up? 1%? .01%?

While I love this thread for the heaps of :stare: laughs, sometimes the loving totality of it all hits me over the head. These are people who would march all of us against a wall with a smile and a machete.

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SocketWrench
Jul 8, 2012

by Fritz the Horse

Twelve by Pies posted:

I think it may even have been dalereed that coined the phrase "They should lay down in the streets and die!"

Yeah, that was a Dalereedism. When he finally kicked the bucket the most common response was "I guess he decided to go lay down in the street and die"

SocketWrench
Jul 8, 2012

by Fritz the Horse

BlackIronHeart posted:

Now watch me vote for the GOP!

Probably voted for or cheered on Roy Moor

Mantis42
Jul 26, 2010

Captain Log posted:

But those "both sides" habits don't go away. I often try to think to myself, "How can these people get through life with so much hate bubbling in them? Doesn't it eat them up?"

The depressing answer is simple - They relish it, because they belief in an absolutist, legalist form of religion that makes them always right about everything. Most of these assholes sleep soundly at night. While never having a moment's doubt in their literally being chosen by God to do what they want.

Not to sympathize with Freepers/Chuds, but rather to explain them: hating people feels good. I'm not even talking about the hatred of bigotry, any type of hate. I have a lot of time to think at my job and sometimes I think about whatever evil thing is going on in the world, like Climate Change or war, and it inevitably devolves into imagining some cruel things about the people responsible. It's not healthy even if I pick better targets than them, but it does feel good.

DarkCrawler
Apr 6, 2009

by vyelkin
Yup, I hate many groups of people 24/7 and I don't imagine there are many people who don't. Ultimately I don't see it as a problem as long as the target deserves it. The problem with Freepers is that they hate people based on say, the way they look.

Herman Merman
Jul 6, 2008

DarkCrawler posted:

Yup, I hate many groups of people 24/7 and I don't imagine there are many people who don't. Ultimately I don't see it as a problem as long as the target deserves it.
This is exactly how the freeper thought process works.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

I think their thought process works the other way, in that they already hate people and come up with reasons after the fact as to why they deserve it, rather than reasons happening and the emotion following after.

Also, like, I think it is fairly silly to see two people, one of whom says "I hate nazis" and the other who says "I am a nazi" and go "wow you both hate people you are both the same"

OwlFancier fucked around with this message at 12:22 on Aug 15, 2021

DarkCrawler
Apr 6, 2009

by vyelkin

Herman Merman posted:

This is exactly how the freeper thought process works.

I guess? They're wrong about the deserving though. For example, every Freeper deserves hatred. Every black person, not so much.

Bel Shazar
Sep 14, 2012

DarkCrawler posted:

I guess? They're wrong about the deserving though. For example, every Freeper deserves hatred. Every black person, not so much.

BS (about freepers deserving hate). Going around hating things just makes you another part of the torrent of poo poo in life. Ridicule and derision are all they deserve.

You dont hate the infection you just kill it with chemicals and then move on with your life.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

I would suggest that whether you develop an emotional response is probably affected by whether you have the luxury of "moving on" which people often don't when the object of their ire is omnipresent.

Bel Shazar
Sep 14, 2012

OwlFancier posted:

I would suggest that whether you develop an emotional response is probably affected by whether you have the luxury of "moving on" which people often don't when the object of their ire is omnipresent.

In my defense the moving on was predicated with killing it with chemicals…

DarkCrawler
Apr 6, 2009

by vyelkin

Bel Shazar posted:

BS (about freepers deserving hate). Going around hating things just makes you another part of the torrent of poo poo in life. Ridicule and derision are all they deserve.

You dont hate the infection you just kill it with chemicals and then move on with your life.

That ridicule and derision comes from hate. U.S.. could use more of it in regards to GOP in general

ashpanash
Apr 9, 2008

I can see when you are lying.

More hate, that'll solve our problems, I'm sure of it

SocketWrench
Jul 8, 2012

by Fritz the Horse

Mantis42 posted:

Not to sympathize with Freepers/Chuds, but rather to explain them: hating people feels good. I'm not even talking about the hatred of bigotry, any type of hate. I have a lot of time to think at my job and sometimes I think about whatever evil thing is going on in the world, like Climate Change or war, and it inevitably devolves into imagining some cruel things about the people responsible. It's not healthy even if I pick better targets than them, but it does feel good.

I must be broken then. I don't hate people. I dislike people, but not hate. My main concern with them is that they just go away and live in their own little bubble and leave everyone else alone, or maybe learn what a hosed up piece of human waste they are and change.

I take that back, I hate trump, but that's mainly because there's nothing redeeming about him. He's like everything wrong in the human species condensed into one man and worshiped by 60 million people

Tony Phillips
Feb 9, 2006
Found it in an old post in this thread:

Really not sure if it's a pack of smokes but the Hell if I'm not going to pretend it's a 12 oz can of beer and that Dale Reed was just that big a giant hate ogre.

Also stumbled onto this dalereed.txt post when looking for the photo.

Elephant Ambush
Nov 13, 2012

...We sholde spenden more time together. What sayest thou?
Nap Ghost

Bel Shazar posted:

BS (about freepers deserving hate). Going around hating things just makes you another part of the torrent of poo poo in life. Ridicule and derision are all they deserve.

You dont hate the infection you just kill it with chemicals and then move on with your life.


ashpanash posted:

More hate, that'll solve our problems, I'm sure of it

Somebody post that comic where the liberal can't tell the difference between the nazi and the antifa guy

pseudanonymous
Aug 30, 2008

When you make the second entry and the debits and credits balance, and you blow them to hell.

Elephant Ambush posted:

Somebody post that comic where the liberal can't tell the difference between the nazi and the antifa guy

Extreme centrism is brain worms on nearly the same level as Naziism.

Twelve by Pies
May 4, 2012

Again a very likpatous story

Elephant Ambush posted:

Somebody post that comic where the liberal can't tell the difference between the nazi and the antifa guy



The "It's like I'm seeing double!" one by Lubchansky is probably the one you were thinking of but I felt this was a better fit.

Axetrain
Sep 14, 2007

Tony Phillips posted:

Found it in an old post in this thread:

Really not sure if it's a pack of smokes but the Hell if I'm not going to pretend it's a 12 oz can of beer and that Dale Reed was just that big a giant hate ogre.

Pretty sure that's a can of Bud. Either way that blurred photo is a perfect encapsulation of freep, maybe even moreso because of the poor quality.

Edgar Allen Ho
Apr 3, 2017

by sebmojo
dalereed was the perfect encapsulation of freep, photo included

DarkCrawler
Apr 6, 2009

by vyelkin

ashpanash posted:

More hate, that'll solve our problems, I'm sure of it

Yeah, that is what I am saying. More tolerance of these assholes sure hasn't, see the entire history of the United States.

Zeroisanumber
Oct 23, 2010

Nap Ghost

ashpanash posted:

More hate, that'll solve our problems, I'm sure of it

I believe in a cradle to grave socialist government that shepherds a person through their entire life and helps them reach their full potential. I also believe that reactionaries should be put under six feet of dirt as quickly as possible.

Elea
Oct 10, 2012

Twelve by Pies posted:

It's like eating in the private kitchen of a delightful Italian stereotype!

dalereed was just a freeper who posted about everything he hated all the time, with his most prominent posts being how he hated radios in work trucks, him not knowing what the Muppets are and telling Jim Henson that, and his hatred of wearing hats which is a post that seems to be lost to time.

I think it may even have been dalereed that coined the phrase "They should lay down in the streets and die!"

Would you mind sharing some classic posts for us?

Captain Log
Oct 2, 2006

Now I am become Borb,
the Destroyer of Seeb
(Editor's Note - I am not saying what I think or feel is the right way to do things. As I explained, I grew up in bizarre circumstances that would make me an excellent wartime diplomat or hostage negotiator.)

Don't get me wrong, I'm sure as gently caress not saying these people with abhorrent views get any sort of pass. But hate? I don't really feel like I outright hate anyone. Seems like an unhealthy expenditure of mental energy. I've got enough problems myself to let that sort of negativity occupy me. At the end of the day, I end up thinking of people being somebody's child, or sibling, or parent.

The closest I get to hate, without stating the obvious "People who commit genocide and rape and poo poo", it would be con men. Someone willing to ruin a person's life for personal financial gain just disgusts me.

I think I just stumbled on it. I'm not hateful of much, but disgusted by plenty.

DarkCrawler
Apr 6, 2009

by vyelkin
Personally I see hate as one of the biggest drivers of human achievement, with even most good things we enjoy upon built on bunch of people who hated the people loving up their lives and thus resorted into some bad things we thankfully don't have to resort to.

Illogical and impotent hate that never achieves anything is exhausting, I agree. Just look at your average basket case Freeper. Hate in general seems to be an adrenaline level stimulant though, considering the uh, entire history of humanity.

People can go with love and acceptance, and they're better people than I am, but I'll look towards hate, exclusion, shaming and ridicule when dealing with say, deniers of the upcoming climate apocalypse. I certainly feel the opposite of exhausted with that.

Twelve by Pies
May 4, 2012

Again a very likpatous story

Elea posted:

Would you mind sharing some classic posts for us?

I don't have any of them sadly, all I have is the radio post, and I think someone posted the Muppet one recently. You can search a user's comments on Freep but they only give you one page of those, which means I can't see any of his posts before 2/23/2016, and his classic posts were way before that.

I guess I forgot that dalereed died very close to the 2016 election, and he actually was a Trump supporter. His last post was on 8/18/2016, which was:

quote:

Breaking! US Swimmers can leave Brazil on one condition
8/18/2016, 3:32:22 AM · 22 of 60
dalereed to BlackFemaleArmyCaptain

In every other country in the world, all participants in anything contraversatly in an accident or illegal is guilty until proved innocent.

When I crashed my airplane in Mexico I was held under house arrest for three weeks and all my passengers for a little over a week.

Let's look at some of dalereed's final posts. I wouldn't say any of these are as good as the classics but I guess they're not without their "charm."

quote:

Christie Reportedly 'Livid' He Wasn't Chosen as Trump's VP
7/18/2016, 10:53:26 AM · 56 of 146
dalereed to Kaslin

If he had been chosen I would not cast a vote for President and let hillary have it!!!!

That piece of soviet garbage should never be let out of his home state.

quote:

Jeb explains the 'tragedy' of Trump's nomination
7/12/2016, 3:33:57 AM · 171 of 173
dalereed to Trump20162020

Jeb should pack up his wet back wife, move to Mexico and never come back!

quote:

Harriet Tubman will replace Andrew Jackson on the $20 bill
4/20/2016, 1:36:39 PM · 155 of 213
dalereed to unixfox

“The next thing they will want to do is out Obama on our currency.”

Even if it’s the $1, I can’t afford $1 per sheet fr toilet paper.

quote:

Wisconsin just handed Paul Ryan a path to the White House
4/10/2016, 7:16:19 AM · 8 of 97
dalereed to kevcol

He’ll never get my vote, i’ll let Hillary have it first!!!

quote:

Karl Rove: Let’s face it, the GOP nominee might need to be someone other than Trump or Cruz
4/1/2016, 9:21:00 PM · 33 of 60
dalereed to Enlightened1

Rove can go crawl back in his hole and stay there.

quote:

Why Did a Ted Cruz Super PAC Gave $500,000 to Carly Fiorina?
3/30/2016, 10:15:51 PM · 24 of 42
dalereed to drewh

One mighty expensive whore!

quote:

What has happened to Free Republic? [What difference at this point can it possibly make?]
3/17/2016, 7:04:48 PM · 197 of 993
dalereed to katwoman5779

His dealings with liberal democraps are necessary for him to
do business and make money, it's made him a billionaire, what has your Conservative attitude made for you?

quote:

Trump dwells on, Marco Rubio for VP.....Maybe!!! (Vanity)
3/17/2016, 7:12:50 AM · 59 of 98
dalereed to JLAGRAYFOX

I’d let Hillary have it if Rubio is on the ballot as VP!!!!

Edgar Allen Ho
Apr 3, 2017

by sebmojo
Tbh he reminds me of my grandma getting political when she had dementia to be "fair" to dalereed.

Difference being my grandma would pull me aside to talk about how FDR was the best president of her lifetime despite not arriving to the US until he was dead, or tell me about how the soviets liberated her camp and they don't teach you that in school, or how much that lying apprentice man reminds her of the old days with Hitler.

Cool lady, kind of an anti-freeper in her latter days. Incoherent and angry but instead of freeping she's pissing down from heaven on the dalereeds in hell.

Edgar Allen Ho fucked around with this message at 23:11 on Aug 16, 2021

kartikeya
Mar 17, 2009


Dalereed's posts were like the Freeper version of @dril.

Khizan
Jul 30, 2013


Where other Freepers are just bitter old racists and homophobes, Dalereed was an angry old spirit dredged up from the Elemental Plane of Hatred and this made him something of a thread mascot. He was unique in his pure hatred for everything. Freepers hate women and LGBTQ people and black people and poor people, and dalereed did hate all those things along with them, because he was a terrible person. But he also hated hats.

quote:

To: afraidfortherepublic
Never trust any man that wears a hat!


58 posted on 8/11/2010, 10:47:20 PM by dalereed
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quote:

To: Daffynition
To me any man with a hat is suspect of being a criminal!

No one but some liberal from the east would ever wear a hat!


65 posted on 5/6/2012, 9:04:04 AM by dalereed
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Music.

quote:

To: Daffy
I quit music in 1945 when i played in the Los Angeles Junior Philharmonic Orchestra and my mother let me quit taking music lessons.
Quit going to Sunday school and got into hot rods and drag racing and never looked back.

160 posted on 1/22/2014, 10:56:01 PM by dalereed
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quote:

To: showme_the_Glory
“I’m a boomer and we’re taking our music with us when we go. All of it.”

hurry up and do it!!!

15 posted on 4/26/2016, 9:07:51 AM by dalereed

Muppets.

quote:

The guy that invented them is a long hair hippy freak!!!

I was installing a new cannopy on the Ambassador Hotel in LA when this freak came up and asked me where he could find rthe muppets?

I responded, what the hell is a muppett, a hairlip puppet having never heard of a muppett and have no idea what one is today!

The hippy really got upset!!


11 posted on 7/23/2012, 10:53:42 PM by dalereed

Unleaded gasoline and paint.

quote:

To: tubebender
That doesn't compute!

I siphoned leaded gas 4 or 5 times a day for 40 years and drank a ton and at 65 I still weigh the same as when I graduated from high school.

The lead danger is total crock. We chewed lead for gum durring WW2, all cans used to be soldered with lead, food was packed in lead foil and water piping was pure lead (there are still buildings in Los Angeles with lead water pipes) and some of the most briliant people of the 19th and 20th century were subjected to all of the above.
20 posted on 4/12/2003, 7:57:54 PM by dalereed
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quote:

To: tubebender
The yellow paint was probably lead paint also!

Never sprayed lead, that was for wealthy bodymen!

But after applying it with a torch, beeswax, and a paddle I sure breathed a lot of it filing and sanding.

To this day I can't stand to wear a resperator or mask, ill take my chances. I've consumed a 1000 times the lead, asbestos, trichlorethelene, etc. than the medical idiots say will give you cancer and I haven't been sick since I was 8 years old with the german measels and at 65 i'm sure not going to change my ways!
24 posted on 4/12/2003, 8:52:50 PM by dalereed
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Shorts

quote:

The despicable crap that basketball players wear!
No way would I wear those terminally ugly things.

My wife used to like to watch basketball games bur when the players started wearing those long shorts she hasn't’ watched one since.

10 posted on 8/21/2013, 11:04:05 PM by dalereed


And the very concept of happiness itself.

quote:

To: FlingWingFlyer

Haven’t got a radio and have never had a radio in a vehicle.

I refused to allow radios in my company trucks, the employees are supposed to be workong and/or thinking about work, not screwing off listening to a drat radio and that goes for me also!!!

12 posted on 12/23/2014, 1:59:30 AM by dalereed
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Elephant Ambush
Nov 13, 2012

...We sholde spenden more time together. What sayest thou?
Nap Ghost
I'm really glad that dalereed is dead

FLIPADELPHIA
Apr 27, 2007

Heavy Shit
Grimey Drawer
Freep: hurry up and do it!!! [die]

Icon Of Sin
Dec 26, 2008



Elephant Ambush posted:

I'm really glad that dalereed is dead

He didn’t die, he just split into 2 mid-40’s hate-golems. Each is a pale copy of the original, but still potent indeed :gonk:

Captain Log
Oct 2, 2006

Now I am become Borb,
the Destroyer of Seeb
I saw an article about the Haiti earthquake on Fox. I clicked, imagining it would just be a lot of, "Thoughts and Prayers" comments.

I was so loving wrong.

On the subject of America sending aid to Haiti -



:freep: - "Why ain't their buildings as good as our buildings?! The only solution? OCCUPATION.



Wasn't this the exact same terminology used to justify the genocide of the Tutsi people in Rwanda?



Compared to their normal gabfests, this one had a lot less posts. But God drat, if they didn't try to make up for it with sheer hate.

SocketWrench
Jul 8, 2012

by Fritz the Horse

Captain Log posted:

I saw an article about the Haiti earthquake on Fox. I clicked, imagining it would just be a lot of, "Thoughts and Prayers" comments.

Hahaha, oh you sweet summer child. Haiti is full of poor paper bag check failures to them

Edgar Allen Ho
Apr 3, 2017

by sebmojo
"I siphoned leaded gas 4 or 5 times a day for 40 years and drank a ton"

He didn't lay down in the street and die of his own accord, he took one too many swigs down at the pump :(

Also, remember when the US literally did occupy Haiti, or that wacky time France forced them to spend a hundred years paying reparations for the crime of no longer being slaves

Edgar Allen Ho fucked around with this message at 10:22 on Aug 17, 2021

DarkCrawler
Apr 6, 2009

by vyelkin

Edgar Allen Ho posted:

"I siphoned leaded gas 4 or 5 times a day for 40 years and drank a ton"

He didn't lay down in the street and die of his own accord, he took one too many swigs down at the pump :(

Also, remember when the US literally did occupy Haiti, or that wacky time France forced them to spend a hundred years paying reparations for the crime of no longer being slaves

Also remember when France proudly refused to repay those reparations. After the earthquake. Well the one before that.

I wonder honestly what the sum owed by past colonial nations to colonized nation in like pure resources has to be, much less all the money made from utilizing those. Much less reparations from all the atrocities. Like it has to be double digits trillions at the least.

Scratch Monkey
Oct 25, 2010

👰Proč bychom se netěšili🥰když nám Pán Bůh🙌🏻zdraví dá💪?

Elephant Ambush posted:

I'm really glad that dalereed is dead

Can you imagine the hatred he'd be spewing over mask mandates?

Xiahou Dun
Jul 16, 2009

We shall dive down through black abysses... and in that lair of the Deep Ones we shall dwell amidst wonder and glory forever.



Scratch Monkey posted:

Can you imagine the hatred he'd be spewing over mask mandates?

"Chin hats."

Zeroisanumber
Oct 23, 2010

Nap Ghost

DarkCrawler posted:

Also remember when France proudly refused to repay those reparations. After the earthquake. Well the one before that.

I wonder honestly what the sum owed by past colonial nations to colonized nation in like pure resources has to be, much less all the money made from utilizing those. Much less reparations from all the atrocities. Like it has to be double digits trillions at the least.

For India it's estimated that England stole about $10 trillion

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Admiralty Flag
Jun 7, 2007

to ride eternal, shiny and chrome

THUNDERDOME LOSER 2022

Zeroisanumber posted:

For India it's estimated that England stole about $10 trillion

My dear goon, I don't think you're applying credits offsetting storage fees for all the cultural artifacts that the Brits nobly and unilaterally kept safe in the British Museum and other such institutions. That's got to take the number down significantly.

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