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CuddleCryptid posted:Really they should have gone for what they wanted and cast Jeff Goldblum as the narrator, since the tone sounds exactly like Ian Malcomb tut tutting you about dinosaurs If they actually wanted that and it didn't happen that's the most tragic thing I've ever heard. 
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Deltasquid posted:So is that one "secularism or state atheism" decision you make in the late game broken or is the secularism choice meant to completely implode your religion? I went from the most dominant religion in the world (2/3 continents) to nonexistent over the course of 1 turn, with no way to undo the damage except reloading an old save "Irreligion What kind of irreligious society do we want?" Well, yeah. It says so right in the description. You don't have to enable every single civic, if it goes against your strategy.
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Eimi posted:If they actually wanted that and it didn't happen that's the most tragic thing I've ever heard. That was just a comment on the tone rather than something I actually read but it's safe to say they would have gotten JB if they could because who wouldn't.
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Deltasquid posted:So is that one "secularism or state atheism" decision you make in the late game broken or is the secularism choice meant to completely implode your religion? I went from the most dominant religion in the world (2/3 continents) to nonexistent over the course of 1 turn, with no way to undo the damage except reloading an old save I think you are only supposed to take either of these if you don't have your own religion? Because if you have a religion both of these are super bad, unless I misunderstood something.
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TjyvTompa posted:I think you are only supposed to take either of these if you don't have your own religion? Because if you have a religion both of these are super bad, unless I misunderstood something. This seems right, I nuked my religion once with this and then I decided to actually read all of the text on the screen and not just the pop ups. It's not always clear even then though
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Aug 23, 2021 16:12
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there appears to be a bug where if you fire a nuke the next turn will hang and you need to load a few turns previous to fix it. unfortunate.
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Megazver posted:"Irreligion TjyvTompa posted:I think you are only supposed to take either of these if you don't have your own religion? Because if you have a religion both of these are super bad, unless I misunderstood something. greazeball posted:This seems right, I nuked my religion once with this and then I decided to actually read all of the text on the screen and not just the pop ups. It's not always clear even then though I forgot the exact wording of the tooltip, but from the tooltip and explanation I expected that the secularism option would make my cities and holy sites stop exerting religious pressure (as opposed to, my population? So I expected them to keep their religion if they already had one?) so my religion would start mingling with other religions that exerted pressure on me. Kind of like how France going secular didn't flip them from 100% Catholic to 100% Protestant overnight on 9 December 1905. But instead everybody immediately converted to Harappan polytheism, from halfway across the globe, and all of my neighbors started demanding reparations because I oppressed people from their religion. That kind of catastrophic implosion doesn't seem to be working as intended.
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Aug 23, 2021 16:56
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Horizon Burning posted:there appears to be a bug where if you fire a nuke the next turn will hang and you need to load a few turns previous to fix it. unfortunate. Not true. The bug where the game freezes and hangs on "pending turn" can happen at any time. I've fired several nukes without issue but I've also had the "pending turn" issue before I even got to nukes. There is something else causing it. You can "solve" it by making a save after the turn has processed (you know when you receive notifications or see the turn counter drop 1 turn if your cities are building something) then going back to the main menu and load that save. The game will continue except I noticed that influence for minor cities or whatever they are called is not calculated so I bet the bug has something to do with that.
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Aug 23, 2021 17:12
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Humankind is canonically set in Skyrim. https://www.reddit.com/r/HumankindTheGame/comments/p9v2ho/extreme_cart_racing/
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Aug 23, 2021 17:31
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CuddleCryptid posted:Really they should have gone for what they wanted and cast Jeff Goldblum as the narrator, since the tone sounds exactly like Ian Malcomb tut tutting you about dinosaurs I have been playing Jurassic World recently and this would be fantastic. Not even just Jeff Goldblum narrating the quotes, but make it Ian Malcomb telling you what he thinks about things.
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Ok two things. Osmosis is a weird way to describe the science rubberbanding mechanic. Osmosis is something moving from where it is less concentrated to more concentrated. If anything that would be a snowball mechanic! Secondly it annoys me that when my army cap is reached on a city, the city stops building units... and doesn't tell me. All that production just goes into a black hole until I notice 
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Aug 23, 2021 17:47
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JeremoudCorbynejad posted:Ok two things. They're referring to social/cultural osmosis.
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It also isn’t a rubberband per se because you can get the science benefits while even or ahead of the other civ. It’s the positive side of having a city be culturally influenced by another civ. The negative is they get a Grievance and you’ll get events trying to change your civics.
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Aug 23, 2021 18:38
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I accidently grabbed a wonder I have no place to build it. Can I release it or am I barred from building any more wonders forever?
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Aug 23, 2021 19:00
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JeremoudCorbynejad posted:Ok two things. No, osmosis is something moving from where it's more concentrated to where it's less concentrated, because there are more things on the more-concentrated side to random-walk to the less concentrated side. When you're talking about osmosis between solutions with a water-permeable membrane, water will move from a less-concentrated solution of an immovable solute into a more concentrated solution, but that's because the water is less concentrated in the more-concentrated solution.
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Aug 23, 2021 19:08
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pro starcraft loser posted:I accidently grabbed a wonder I have no place to build it. Can I release it or am I barred from building any more wonders forever? Go grab some land, I suppose.
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Aug 23, 2021 19:08
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Megazver posted:Go grab some land, I suppose. I have a different gripe, but I guess your answer works for that too. I assume I am producing too much influence. Now I automatically get a million gripes towards all the empires in the game. gently caress. How do I unfuck this, conquer them all, and join the conquered cities to one big megalopolis? The notification bar can't stretch wide enough. I have to scroll down a list of grievances with every civ. I can't cancell them all with one button, and they come back nearly instantly.  
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^^^ I think you can just ignore it and you'll sit at 100% war support I want to start a new game since I've kindof already won the current one. Buuuut I actually have 2 oils and a few undiscovered strategics (so either uranium or aluminum i think) so might as well keep going. Went all builders until the last age and have gone Soviets. Planning on just killing everyone with tanks.
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Apparently, after some testing it's been found that pops cost at least 8 food, with a scaling additonal cost based on how many pops you have there. This makes farmer jobs much less attractive, with them producing 6 food base, not even enough to support themselves.
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Aug 23, 2021 19:44
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CuddleCryptid posted:You might even say you want them to reach Beyond Earth i completely forgot about that game and i own it  tbf fireaxis' seems to have forgotten about it too
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MorphineMike posted:Apparently, after some testing it's been found that pops cost at least 8 food, with a scaling additonal cost based on how many pops you have there. This makes farmer jobs much less attractive, with them producing 6 food base, not even enough to support themselves. Sure, but its very easy to make farmers generate more then 1 food. There's a lot of buildings, traits, and luxuries to increase that number. I mean, a granary and a coffee and you're breaking even. You can have that by turn 10.
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Glazius posted:No, osmosis is something moving from where it's more concentrated to where it's less concentrated, because there are more things on the more-concentrated side to random-walk to the less concentrated side. Oh yeah, poor wording on my part. I guess science/culture is the water in this metaphor
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James Totes posted:Sure, but its very easy to make farmers generate more then 1 food. There's a lot of buildings, traits, and luxuries to increase that number. But is breaking even worth it? Especially very early, if you have a farmer who just self-sustains it's probably not actually doing anything beyond the neolithic trait, whereas it could be generating 6 industry and that 1 science or whatever. E: the scaling also kicks in every quickly- your 4th pop costs 9 food.
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MorphineMike posted:Apparently, after some testing it's been found that pops cost at least 8 food, with a scaling additonal cost based on how many pops you have there. This makes farmer jobs much less attractive, with them producing 6 food base, not even enough to support themselves. I don't understand how this could be accurate without the entire game collapsing in on itself due to lack of population.
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MorphineMike posted:But is breaking even worth it? Especially very early, if you have a farmer who just self-sustains it's probably not actually doing anything beyond the neolithic trait, whereas it could be generating 6 industry and that 1 science or whatever. But doesn't farmers help increase the population? Or have I completely misunderstood the point of farmers.
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CuddleCryptid posted:I don't understand how this could be accurate without the entire game collapsing in on itself due to lack of population. Because this is specifically for the farmer jobs. Exploitation still produces food from the hexes it exploits - a Farmers District in a field of 2 food hexes produces 14 food without any pops to work it. You can even have a 0 pop city that grows.
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Yeah for that reason in the early game you're generally better off building more farmers quarters than adding more farmer specialist slots.
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MorphineMike posted:Because this is specifically for the farmer jobs. Exploitation still produces food from the hexes it exploits - a Farmers District in a field of 2 food hexes produces 14 food without any pops to work it. You can even have a 0 pop city that grows. I get that, but the point is that you would quickly get into the scenario where you are building districts for every individual pop, which you clearly don't have to do. Especially since 14 food on one district is a pretty good yield.
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CuddleCryptid posted:I get that, but the point is that you would quickly get into the scenario where you are building districts for every individual pop, which you clearly don't have to do. Especially since 14 food on one district is a pretty good yield. The scaling looks to round pretty aggressively but otherwise be fairly flat - lategame cities are probably paying 14 or so food per pop. And 14 isn't actually that hard - a Farmers Quarters surrounded by Farmers Quarters in a city with an Animal Barn is 14 food before any exploitation.
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pro starcraft loser posted:I accidently grabbed a wonder I have no place to build it. Can I release it or am I barred from building any more wonders forever? when i first booted up the game i got the tutorial and the map was just entirely flat, without a single mountain. being incredibly smart i picked machu picchu and yeah.... it just softlocked me out of creating wonders there was no land to conquer because the map simply did not have mountains. it was also bugged in other ways, such as not having oil and also of course the infinite turns and lack of win conditions. extremely cursed tutorial
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If i get an "Osmosis" event, do I have to do anything besidrs acknowledgr the osmosis? Someone said I have to actively select a technology or something but I dont know how to do that
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OctaMurk posted:If i get an "Osmosis" event, do I have to do anything besidrs acknowledgr the osmosis? Someone said I have to actively select a technology or something but I dont know how to do that Theres multiple types of Osmosis events. There's an event where you just get some science. Hooray! There's one where you can buy-out a tech or get a science bonus to a tech. You have to press a button then. There's also a few where you're asked to change your civic, too.
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Anyone have a bug (I assume bug) where you get a MASSIVE performance dropoff? I'm at turn 165 as the Soviets and I'm getting between 1-3 FPS somehow. Edit: looks like there’s something funky with contemporary era causing frame rates to drop to near zero. Maybe pollution? My cpu/gpu loads at around 50% and 10% but game manages only 1 FPS. appropriatemetaphor fucked around with this message at 21:58 on Aug 23, 2021 |
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CuddleCryptid posted:
Hmm. I've found you can farm quite a lot of fame if you're willing to stick around in an era for a bit and risk forgoing your first civ pick. This is maybe not the best example because I clearly need to have the difficulty much higher, but:  I had 4k fame by the end of the Ancient era, and I was getting about 3k an era after that. Contemporary was the best, to be sure, but it was also a completely unnecessary victory lap lmao.
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Important PSA: You can get around the Religion softlock by hitting CTRL-5 on the Religion screen. That lets you change your State Religion. Why isn't there a button for something that important? 
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Deltasquid posted:I forgot the exact wording of the tooltip, but from the tooltip and explanation I expected that the secularism option would make my cities and holy sites stop exerting religious pressure (as opposed to, my population? So I expected them to keep their religion if they already had one?) so my religion would start mingling with other religions that exerted pressure on me. Kind of like how France going secular didn't flip them from 100% Catholic to 100% Protestant overnight on 9 December 1905. But instead everybody immediately converted to Harappan polytheism, from halfway across the globe, and all of my neighbors started demanding reparations because I oppressed people from their religion. That kind of catastrophic implosion doesn't seem to be working as intended. Secularism should make you immune to all religious demands, so if that's what happened I think it's a bug. State Atheism definitely does that though, because it effectively makes your state religion one which exactly 0 people in your empire follow. It slowly converts them to Atheism, but in the short-medium term everyone will hate you. Honestly I don't see the point.
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So messing around and getting my rear end kicked at warfare a lot, I've come to a few, probably obvious, conclusions about starting. The #1 success indicator I've found is space. If I have at least 3 territories inbetween me and any rival I'll usually be okay. Like basically if I can easily claim at least 6 terrorizes early on with no pressure. In a game like that I have an enormous amount of influence, production, and so on. I guess also going for a production bias on your capital and hopefully getting some food territories. Otherwise I guess if I'm penned in and don't have space I should just stop trying to play normal and bite the bullet and just go war.
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Couple kinda not-obvious things in combat I ran into - you can block reinforcements by moving onto their reinforcement spot (be careful not to block your own when you pull them in by attacking on the reinforcement space!). Potentially you can actually block the initial deployment of enemy troops, if you manage to surround them against water/mountains with your armies. When you move external armies into an existing war, the exact tile you move in does matter, it determines where you deploy the reinforcements, so pay attention if you're moving onto crappy terrain. It also matters if you're stacked up or not - you can't "add" more reinforcements to a single tile in a battle, so if you have straggling troops joining a big fight, take the time to stack them to your unit cap before joining, otherwise you'll 'use up' reinforcement tiles at the edge of the fight. You can set the order you join reinforcements to the fight by dragging them on the reinforcements tab in the combat display (top right, second tab). This can matter in some situations if you're deploying a mix of melee/ranged/cav and need to get a specific attack off first, or if your available deployment area is limited and you can only get some of the reinforcements onto the field. Another oddity - the 'angle' you attack from determines the 'angle' of the battlefield, ie, where nearby armies get pulled in from. I tried to attack an enemy from behind and wound up not pulling my nearby armies in because they were on the other side, which sucked. You can see a preview of this from various tiles by holding right click and dragging the army around to see how it will deploy (this also works for moving to different tiles to attack an enemy unit in combat, it'll adjust the preview as you drag). You can cancel enemy ZoC by having a unit occupying one angle, allowing you to move past them - relevant because flank/rear attacks get a bonus (definitely rear, can't remember if flank does - I know nearby friends helps power). Small power bonuses matter. Grab those combat boosts from faith (or nations, obv) or special events. There's probably some more subtleties there, combat's pretty good!
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Not quite understanding the linking vs standalone cities. Should I always be at city cap, or should I minimize cities and link as many as possible?
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Always be at city cap. More cities is better than bigger cities. You do want to make sure each city has a few territories they can grab though.
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