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Sickening posted:I am a computer touches who makes a great living doing it lol. a lot of words to say you don't get how ux works actual content tho - the gsf wiki is pretty much tragedy of the commons playing out over the past few years. the only edits i've felt the need to do has been removing  gamer words from articles which may actually (but probably are not) relevant
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Maneck posted:CCP making the ESI rest on a password change was a hateful act, right up there with allowing people to apply to a new corp while having roles in their old one. Got to work, sat down, opened esi.goonfleet.com, BLOCKED BY URL FILTER uuugh
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Kitfox88 posted:i will never fly a cap ever subcap 4 lyfe Dread fleets are about shouting NPC dread, not flying them Uncontested this make ludicrous money, like 800m per hour or so Krogort fucked around with this message at 09:12 on Aug 31, 2021 |
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Krogort posted:Dread fleets are about shouting NPC dread, not flying them i am now intrigued and need to get off my rear end and unmute to actually do poo poo with krabswarm soon
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2 pages of "oh no, ship fits in corp fitting in the drat fitting window or in every fleet motd or in 938157 dedicated goon fitting channels sorted by shiptype, shipname and fleet type are uncomfortable to use, update the wiki" loving lmao Erulisse fucked around with this message at 09:50 on Aug 31, 2021 |
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Erulisse posted:2 pages of "oh no, ship fits in corp fitting in the drat fitting window or in every fleet motd or in 938157 dedicated goon fitting channels sorted by shiptype, shipname and fleet type are uncomfortable to use, update the wiki" I'm the biggest idiot and they are desperately easy to find
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Aug 31, 2021 09:59
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A lot of the non-doctrine fits on the wiki are either hilariously bad, out of date or both. I've nuked several fits that simply don't fit their respective ships any more due to slot/role changes.
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Aug 31, 2021 10:20
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Kitfox88 posted:i will never fly a cap ever subcap 4 lyfe That's why I loved black ops battleships. Subcaps with jump drives so best of both worlds. Murdering ratting carriers with blingy blops in hole squad was great. I remember Nex had an absolutely disgusting neuting Sin setup that could drain a carrier dry. Good times.
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Gwyneth Palpate posted:it is i, the gatekeeper I am Vince Clortho the copy keeper. Are you the paste master? 
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Sickening posted:Are you in waffe? I would bet isk on that unless something has changed really recently. I remember setting up a ship after the horn sounded from the ingame corp fittings and being told I was dumb and wrong. I'm in Karmafleet, and I'm not talking about ingame corp-shared fits. I'm talking about the webapp we built a few months ago in which you can copy/paste the current fit of your ship and have it validated against the reference one, with a multibuy-ready shopping list if you're missing poo poo. https://goonfleet.com/index.php/topic/310940-fit-validator-tool/ And we also have ingame fitting channels you should check out if you wanna keep it in the client, as mentioned there: Mr. Grinch posted:jesus christ are you unaware of goonfits? this is literally already true, you can login and use it right now
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dialhforhero posted:I am Vince Clortho the copy keeper. Are you the paste master? i am the horse paste master
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Aug 31, 2021 12:09
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OK you can stop jacking each other off now, I think that guy gets it
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Aug 31, 2021 12:32
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dialhforhero posted:Both arguments are actually correct: I'm rattled by this post because I used to effort post like this about knowledge sharing tools before realizing that it really isn't a steep ask that someone use what's essentially a digital catalog or library to figure poo poo out.
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gently caress Dewie and gently caress his decimals
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Kitfox88 posted:gently caress Dewie and gently caress his decimals
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What the wiki can do and the fit tool doesn’t is explain what a ship is good for and give a few use case with tips on how to be good with it. For exemple say that a interceptor can be used as a shuttle provided you put some inertia stab, a shield extender and don’t forget to activate the nullification module at every jump. Or pointing that the omen Navy can be fitted like your classic Amarr brick but is also a pretty good kiter unlike the aforementioned bricks. Even the doctrine forum doesn’t give much explanation about why poo poo is done a certain way and not another.
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Phlegmish posted:OK you can stop jacking each other off now, I think that guy gets it no I am rubbing myself with payslips showing my superior salary
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Dik Hz posted:What's the dd code for esoteric rants? pretty sure it includes a 420 and probably also a 69 Kitfox88 posted:I’m gay and have 8 days left on Cruise Missiles V Other than cruise Ravens (which GSF doesnt use, but INIT does (i think?)) why should someone like me with ~100mil in subcap SP train Cruise V?
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I was creating my own programming languages at age 3 and this loving IDIOT can't figure out the fits
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LiberalExtinction posted:no I am rubbing myself with payslips showing my superior salary 
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Otacon posted:pretty sure it includes a 420 and probably also a 69 Need that rate of fire for autotarget cruise missile dps on rats
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Otacon posted:pretty sure it includes a 420 and probably also a 69 Delta Sqad has a Raven fit but I think they retired it recently.
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Skiant posted:And we also have ingame fitting channels you should check out if you wanna keep it in the client, as mentioned there: The fitting channels aren't always up to date, which is what this whole discussion is about. As a newbee I used those fits until I realized they weren't the same as in the doctrine threads, luckily before I needed SRP. The goon fit app is nice but last I checked for ADM fits it didn't have them, meaning I still have to use both.
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Andohz posted:The fitting channels aren't always up to date, which is what this whole discussion is about. As a newbee I used those fits until I realized they weren't the same as in the doctrine threads, luckily before I needed SRP. Which is why the only updated and current place to always find fits is on the forums in the fittings threads. Go there, get fits. The wiki is out of date and can’t be relied upon. The goonfits channel is helpful but again is not maintained by the fitting team. Arguing about this is pointless unless someone feels inclined to take it upon themselves to fix what they deem to be a shortfall. If you are not willing to fix what you deem to be a shortfall, don’t complain about it. Sickening is the most egregious offender of the “complains about something then becomes conspicuously absent when someone suggests THEY fix what they are complaining about.”
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You turds are just making poo poo up now lmao.
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Sickening posted:You turds are just making poo poo up now lmao. So you're volunteering to fix the wiki?
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Sickening posted:You turds are just making poo poo up now lmao. it's eve online 
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Saul Kain posted:So you're volunteering to fix the wiki? Sure, why not. Grant me the wiki roles and I will start the impossible task of posting fits there instead of 5 separated locations.
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Kitfox88 posted:Need that rate of fire for autotarget cruise missile dps on rats I don't think I even have Auto Targeting Missiles trained to 1 If this is some new ratting gimmick I don't get it
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Sickening posted:Sure, why not. Grant me the wiki roles and I will start the impossible task of posting fits there instead of 5 separated locations. https://wiki.goonfleet.com/Goonwiki:Contributing Goonspeed. I will stop slandering you now.
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Saul Kain posted:Which is why the only updated and current place to always find fits is on the forums in the fittings threads. Go there, get fits. The wiki is out of date and can’t be relied upon. The goonfits channel is helpful but again is not maintained by the fitting team. Arguing about this is pointless unless someone feels inclined to take it upon themselves to fix what they deem to be a shortfall. If you are not willing to fix what you deem to be a shortfall, don’t complain about it. Sickening is the most egregious offender of the “complains about something then becomes conspicuously absent when someone suggests THEY fix what they are complaining about.” I wasn't complaining, and I'm pretty sure I don't have access to add the ADM fits to the goon fit app. I mostly use the app for verifying the fit of my ship before an op (which I originally got from the forums). Also, regarding fixing the wiki, I thought mittens explicitly said on a fireside that it was going to be archived and replaced with a clean start, which would make fixing the current wiki useless.
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Otacon posted:I don't think I even have Auto Targeting Missiles trained to 1 In blunt honestly it's mostly just because I trained Caldari Battleships to 5 and so I want Cruise Missiles to 5 as well for if I ever want or need to fly a Raven or such. Plus I think missiles are a cool weapon system.
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Holy gently caress you guys are such whiny little shits. If opening the forum, clicking on the big words that say" FLEET DOCTRINES AND REIMBURSEMENT" and then clicking on the post that says "GOONSWARM FEDERATION: UNIFIED STRATEGIC DOCTRINE is too much work for you all, how about you do it once then bookmark the page and put the bookmark in your browser tab for easy access? https://goonfleet.com/index.php/topic/296794-goonswarm-federation-unified-strategic-doctrine-mk-xi/ <---- Click this link and bookmark it. It is unreasonable to expect every thing to be done for you all, and handholding you to this level is why people working in the service industry want to kill themselves all the time. I don't remember why, but Arrendis once clearly explained why they chose the forum for fitting doctrines and at the time it made a lot of sense. There is no reason to make a deal about this. Its about the same number of clicks. The fits are updated and you can easily copy them into EVE.
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Andohz posted:I wasn't complaining, and I'm pretty sure I don't have access to add the ADM fits to the goon fit app. I mostly use the app for verifying the fit of my ship before an op (which I originally got from the forums). Sorry, I wasn't trying to call you out specifically. You post brings up a valid point that there are disparate places where to find fits. Which is why I mentioned where the officially-updated fits reside on goonfleet dot com. I was also using your post as a springboard to re-interate the old adage "if you're not part of the solution, you are part of the problem." In my experience Goonfleet has been so successful largely because we've empowered our lowest level to fix problems if they see them. "Wanna FC? no problem here is Skirmish commanders". "Can you code? Sweet see if you can fix this problem." See something, say something AND THEN demand to be part of the solution to something. Leaving out the last part is just complaining for the sake of complaining. The wiki is a giant herculean task which Sickening has so graciously agreed to take on. I'll be honest, I missed that fireside. If the wiki is getting a clean slate, all the better.
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Sickening posted:Sure, why not. Grant me the wiki roles and I will start the impossible task of posting fits there instead of 5 separated locations. surely a high-paid computer toucher knows the defining feature of a wiki w/r/t the required roles to make edits
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At one point sometime late last year Atrum had given roles to a few bees to keep the in-game corp fittings sync'd with the forum fittings. I take it those people hosed off/won Eve?
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i hope I'm not the only one that can see the irony in a corp made up of people posting on forums, that are complaining that fits are posted on forums
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evilweasel posted:surely a high-paid computer toucher knows the defining feature of a wiki w/r/t the required roles to make edits  Ah yes, the highly paid field of wiki janitoring.
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captainclaw posted:i hope I'm not the only one that can see the irony in a corp made up of people posting on forums, that are complaining that fits are posted on forums fits in forums?? shitposts come outta there!!
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Sickening posted:Sure, why not. Grant me the wiki roles and I will start the impossible task of posting fits there instead of 5 separated locations. https://xkcd.com/927/
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