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QuarkJets posted:What's the word on domestic level 2 charging in the US? Any particular products to avoid or recommend? With a garage I feel like installing a 240V outlet is probably more versatile than a hardwired cable but would like to hear other opinions! Stay away from the "EV Doubler" unless you enjoy atrial fibrillation.
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TheFluff posted:Around here the smallest/cheapest grid hookup you can get for a single family home is about 11kW, supplied as a 16A main breaker on 400V three-phase. There are a bunch of increments above this (20, 25, 35, 50 and 63A) too though which you'd need if you actually wanted to use 11kW to charge your car. Upsizing the main breaker is usually sorta expensive though, both in installation and operation (your grid fee depends on the size of the breaker). The typical minimum service for modern single family homes in the US is 200A/48kW single phase. Some larger homes might have 400A/96kW  Older homes might have 60A or 100A.
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QuarkJets posted:What's the word on domestic level 2 charging in the US? Any particular products to avoid or recommend? With a garage I feel like installing a 240V outlet is probably more versatile than a hardwired cable but would like to hear other opinions! The NEMA 14-50 outlet has become the defacto standard for plug in EVSEs.... It would definitely be the most versatile option. Most plugin EVSEs on the market will have the 14-50 plug, as do most L2 EVSEs that are included with EVs. (Tesla UMC, Mach-E, etc...)
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bird with big dick posted:OR YOU COULD DO WHAT FORD DID AND NOT RELEASE THE GODDAMN REVIEW EMBARGO ON THE MACH E GT Ford says they're having a media day for the GT in loving October. And that's just a media day i.e. the cars aren't actually in the media's hands so not really the same as C&D or whoever having the car for a couple days and doing whatever they want with it. loving another bungled launch. If this cars gonna trap 100-104ish for its whole life I might actually sell it and either get a MYP or maybe get my last ICE DD rather than my first EV DD.
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stevewm posted:The typical minimum service for modern single family homes in the US is 200A/48kW single phase. Some larger homes might have 400A/96kW Put a couple F-150 lightnings in a home, and 400A doesn’t sound too crazy.
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stevewm posted:Older homes might have 60A or 100A. Such as mine. I've been trying since May to get an electrician to give me an estimate on moving to a 200A service. I may have to stick with a natural gas water heater just because nobody will run an 220V line to the basement.
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bird with big dick posted:Ford says they're having a media day for the GT in loving October. And that's just a media day i.e. the cars aren't actually in the media's hands so not really the same as C&D or whoever having the car for a couple days and doing whatever they want with it. loving another bungled launch. MYP is the one Tesla that you can order now and expect it in like 2 weeks vs the 3+ months for everything else. Do it I'm loving mine!
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:unless you're not in NA i have bad news about the Space Vizzion Has this been announced somewhere?
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Popero posted:Has this been announced somewhere? no but when scotty k is like "oh bro this thing totally maybe could come to america! it is theoretically possible!" and the thing is an ev wagon, i will bet you a loving million dollars that it will not in fact come to america edit: to be clear, I absolutely want the space vizzzzzzzzion to come to America but if you're holding out for it you are gonna be waiting for a long time
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No disagreement from me, just wondering if there was something to put me out of my misery or whether I'd keep deluding myself for now.
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gwrtheyrn posted:I've been hearing good things about the grizzl-e, presumably the basic one. Clippercreek is also an option, but I don't know if they have a way to change the max amperage, but I assume not and they're also uglier. If you care about UL listings, grizzl-e is supposedly UL listed, while most of clipper creek's models are ETL. If I was looking for one right now, I'd probably be looking at the grizzl-e. Assuming there are any for sale anyways I ordered a basic (dumb) grizzl-e at the end of August and had it within a week, even though it had to come from Canada. It's been fine so far. I don't think it's the charger's fault, but the ID.4 has been a little bit weird about charging properly when I have the house configured as a "charging location". First it didn't charge at all overnight (supposed to charge from 10pm to 6am), then the next night it charged to over 90% when I had it set to 80% max. Haven't needed to charge it since then, so I'll have to see what happens next time. The biggest annoyance I've found so far is just an Android Auto thing. I want to go to Bob's Big Buttplug Emporium, so I have the location open in Google Maps on my phone. I climb into the car. My phone pairs to the car, and Google Maps closes, telling me to use it through Android Auto instead. When I open Maps in AA, I now have to search for Bob's Big Buttplug Emporium all over again, which is a hassle. If there's a way to turn that off, boy, that'd really make my day.
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bird with big dick posted:Ford says they're having a media day for the GT in loving October. And that's just a media day i.e. the cars aren't actually in the media's hands so not really the same as C&D or whoever having the car for a couple days and doing whatever they want with it. loving another bungled launch. Just reading this embargo saga is doing my loving head in. Ford are literally doing a media embargo.... when customers are having cars delivered for a month?!?!? Where the gently caress does Ford get off pulling that nonsense?
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ford is incapable of reasonably good product launch, if the media embargo is the only problem they will be in good shape
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CAT INTERCEPTOR posted:Just reading this embargo saga is doing my loving head in. Ford are literally doing a media embargo.... when customers are having cars delivered for a month?!?!? Where the gently caress does Ford get off pulling that nonsense? Forget about it, CAT INTERCEPTOR, it’s Dearborn
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Apologies for the Musk tweet https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1436086743720251394
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I just stopped at the BMW dealership, people daily drive M4 Competitions through Tahoe winters, right?
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I also stopped at the Tesla dealership and test drove a MYP. I'd driven an LR before but not a P. The Ford feels faster like 0-30 or 40. I didn't get nearly the "your eyeballs are being flattened against the back of their sockets" feeling from the Tesla as I do with the Ford. But punch it at like 60 and the Tesla literally feels twice as fast. No comparison. I'd love to see a 60 roll race between the two, the Ford would just get destroyed.
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It seems Tesla has found a novel workaround to state laws banning them from opening a service center without a dealership: open a facility in a sovereign nation's land. https://www.krwg.org/post/gov-lujan-grisham-applauds-new-tesla-electric-vehicle-facility-namb-pueblo I am incredibly excited about this: no more driving 400 miles to get to a service center!
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cruft posted:It seems Tesla has found a novel workaround to state laws banning them from opening a service center without a dealership: open a facility in a sovereign nation's land. Interesting workaround. bird with big dick posted:I also stopped at the Tesla dealership and test drove a MYP. I'd driven an LR before but not a P. TBH I'd wait for a OTA to the Ford, really is sounding like a software controller issue if it wont punch at speed.
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borkencode posted:Apologies for the Musk tweet https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1436086743720251394 Here's the run on youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ujp3q_aryRA
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It’s like watching a man in a firesuit wrestle the worlds fastest elephant.
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The built in navigation software in the Taycan just sent me 12km out of my way to get to the wrong side of the fence of an Ionity charger in Aosta   Luckily I wasn't pressed for time or running out of charge.
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knox_harrington posted:The built in navigation software in the Taycan just sent me 12km out of my way to get to the wrong side of the fence of an Ionity charger in Aosta If you didn't have a mid-mount charge port, the cable would reach from there!
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Oh wow, being a reservation holder, Hyundai sent me an "exclusive" video with less info than we've had for months  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0coqxazQVE Here's some important fine print: Available winter 2021. Currently, 2022 IONIQ 5 will only be sold in AZ, CA, CO, CT, FL, IL, ME, MD, MA, NJ, NY, OR, PA, RI, TX, VT, VA, and WA. Additional state availability coming in early 2022. Winter now.
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Oh but the phone key is only Android I guess.
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Charles posted:Oh wow, being a reservation holder, Hyundai sent me an "exclusive" video with less info than we've had for months Wow, you're being very disrespectful to Gion, your product specialist and host.
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knox_harrington posted:The built in navigation software in the Taycan just sent me 12km out of my way to get to the wrong side of the fence of an Ionity charger in Aosta That's a long fence.
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The Romans built it in 392 to keep the Visigoths from freeloading.
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Tayter Swift posted:The Romans built it in 392 to keep the Visigoths from freeloading. There's even a bit on Trajan's column where they explain how CHAdeMO could never make it.
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Zero One posted:That's a long fence. "Why the long fence?"
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Charles posted:Winter now. Maybe we'll get MSRP by the end of the year 
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knox_harrington posted:The built in navigation software in the Taycan just sent me 12km out of my way to get to the wrong side of the fence of an Ionity charger in Aosta Yeah the navigation is kinda butt compared to Tesla 
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eeenmachine posted:Yeah the navigation is kinda butt compared to Tesla Let's be fair: i frequently yell at Tesla's navigation when it decides I'm close enough to the supercharger to stop giving directions and zoom the map way out. I can't see the loving charger anywhere, Tessalina, don't make me zoom the map back in tou where it was when you abandoned me. Makes me feel so angry and alone.
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Tessalina is the name of the cheerful lady who lives in the dashboard and shouts at me when I need to turn.
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cruft posted:Tessalina is the name of the cheerful lady who lives in the dashboard and shouts at me when I need to turn. Enjoy that voice while it lasts, since they're changing it to Elon's voice in a future update. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Wayne Knight posted:Enjoy that voice while it lasts, since they're changing it to Elon's voice in a future update. drat it 
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Wayne Knight posted:Enjoy that voice while it lasts, since they're changing it to Elon's voice in a future update. I’ve never been so happy to see that video.
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cruft posted:Tessalina is the name of the cheerful lady who lives in the dashboard and shouts at me when I need to turn. We call her Ada, after Ada Lovelace. Wayne Knight posted:Enjoy that voice while it lasts, since they're changing it to Elon's voice in a future update. Haha, you totally got me  .
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cruft posted:Tessalina is the name of the cheerful lady who lives in the dashboard and shouts at me when I need to turn. There’s a weird sultriness to the Tesla voice. I can imagine Musk pressuring the engineers to make the voice sexier.
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