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Acerbatus posted:So uh does Alisha ever come back in Zestiria? I thought she was like, the protagonist. Welcome to one of the many reasons Zestiria is a mess
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Acerbatus posted:So uh does Alisha ever come back in Zestiria? I thought she was like, the protagonist. Nope. She was supposed to be but during development she got replaced by Rose, the "pure hearted" assassin who is morally justified in the setting because she doesn't feel regret, guilt or empathy for those she kills. Zestiria was the Tales game that almost killed the franchise, Berseria was a cheap budget course correction and then the series was effectively dead until Arise resurrected it.
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Sep 18, 2021 03:02
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Acerbatus posted:That's the issue though, a well balanced party is bad because you have twice as much armor over a specialized party. This is the common rebuttal, but I think it misses the key point that armor values aren't equal. Enemies generally have one armor they're strong at while the other is weaker, and you're meant to exploit them as such. That's why a balanced party is so powerful, because you can always exploit a weakness I mention this mostly because people warned me off balanced parties with this advice before I played, but honestly I found the exact opposite experience. I really can't imagine facerolling a group of warrior-types with a party of all-physical party members, when a single mage-type can practically solo them The combat loop honestly reminded me a lot of SMT / Persona, in that I didn't really have a "house strategy", and instead my tactics were 100% dependent on enemy weaknesses, which in turn meant I prioritized having as many tools as possible in my toolbox
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Mr. Fortitude posted:Nope. She was supposed to be but during development she got replaced by Rose, the "pure hearted" assassin who is morally justified in the setting because she doesn't feel regret, guilt or empathy for those she kills. I don't think the series was really dead when Arise started production not long after Berseria came out.
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Sep 18, 2021 03:17
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A port of the ps3 version of Vesperia sold a million copies, absolutely not the definition of dead
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Barudak posted:Sakaguchi heard my prayers and answered them from darkness. I can only imagine that by NG+3 every single fight down to the random encounter has a single set string of moves that leads to victory otherwise you wipe.
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Sep 18, 2021 03:24
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The only thing that truly died from Zestiria was Hideo Baba's reputation and career.
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yeah, zestiria wasn't some massive failure. i mean, a lot of people hated it, but the hardcore jp tales fanbase was mostly okay with it, sorey and mikleo are popular characters. and it sold fine. berseria and zestiria sold extremely well on steam, actually. the fairly harsh critical backlash and huge development issues led to a lot of restructuring internally but the franchise wasn't severely negatively affected in any real way. zesty sucked dont get me wrong but people really oversell how badly it went over. if anything the internal restructuring and baba's departure probably had more to do with him publicly badmouthing bamco and clear internal friction with the higher ups than zesty itself. if it had come out exactly the same but hed played nice he'd probably still be there. Endorph fucked around with this message at 03:36 on Sep 18, 2021 |
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Sep 18, 2021 03:33
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Zestiria selling well on steam is kinda cheating because IIRC it was the first Tales game on PC and one of the first real JRPGs on steam instead of weeb crap
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Sep 18, 2021 04:11
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They rereleased it on 3DS?
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TheMightyBoops posted:They rereleased it on 3DS? like, years ago. it hasn't come out on the nintendo system that people currently own
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TheMightyBoops posted:They rereleased it on 3DS? And WiiU. Along with "Earthbound Zero", a translation of the original Mother.
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Sep 18, 2021 04:36
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Alisha does come back temporarily for like one dungeon but you'll wish she didn't considering how it impacts the gameplay at that point. I'd say the plot that happens at that time would make you regret she comes back but by that point the story has plenty of other regrets that make that not even really register anymore. Although I find it funny that of the two adaptations of the story I've seen, neither keeps the plot point from that part of the game. Oh and I guess in a DLC that I never played.
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Her weapon is available for purchase despite never coming back, which is why people are so sure it was a later development change
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The Colonel posted:like, years ago. it hasn't come out on the nintendo system that people currently own I’m here to be technically right.
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mycot posted:Zestiria selling well on steam is kinda cheating because IIRC it was the first Tales game on PC and one of the first real JRPGs on steam instead of weeb crap Tae posted:Her weapon is available for purchase despite never coming back, which is why people are so sure it was a later development change
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The Colonel posted:like, years ago. it hasn't come out on the nintendo system that people currently own And Mother 3 still has not officially seen the light of day outside of Japan.
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mycot posted:Zestiria selling well on steam is kinda cheating because IIRC it was the first Tales game on PC and one of the first real JRPGs on steam instead of weeb crap What does this even mean
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Ibram Gaunt posted:What does this even mean You know it was the first real JRPG on steam not one of those weeb jrpgs. Seriously Mycot what's....what's goin on?
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Ibram Gaunt posted:What does this even mean The first JRPGs I remember on Steam were Phantasy Star 2 - 4 when they ported all those Genesis games.
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Sep 18, 2021 05:13
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Recettear was on steam since its original release, iirc
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Sep 18, 2021 05:17
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By weeb I mean the western wannabe stuff like the endless Sakura X games. I'm not insane that's what weeaboo used to mean!
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Sep 18, 2021 05:20
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mycot posted:By weeb I mean the western wannabe stuff like the endless Sakura X games. I'm not insane that's what weeaboo used to mean! There’s just a lot of regular JRPGs on Steam and a lot were there before it got flooded with that stuff because tiny publishers weren’t allowed on Steam for the longest time.
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mycot posted:By weeb I mean the western wannabe stuff like the endless Sakura X games. I'm not insane that's what weeaboo used to mean! Nah that makes sense. I just thought you meant "weeb crap" as 'stuff for weebs' not 'things by weebs'
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Has anyone played those Sakura games, I’m sure theyre awful I’m just curious as to how awful?
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TheMightyBoops posted:Has anyone played those Sakura games, I’m sure theyre awful I’m just curious as to how awful? I think the only one relevant to this thread would be Sakura Dungeon, which was, rather than just being a generic VN, an even blander dungeon crawler. Unless I missed something obvious it was pretty brutally grindy too, I turned on XP boost codes to make my way through by the end and as a result boss battles went from playing rocket tag to long slow slogs where I had higher defense than the boss but the fights were dragging because of how much HP they had. Maps never got interesting even in endgame, this is one of the last few floors of the game:  I have never messed with the VNs to know how those go, I was just wondering what that studio doing a first person blobber was like. edit: Oh, I just remembered - the Steam release actually has all of the 18+ events removed to comply with their at-the-time "no porn" policy, but it's done so sloppily that it legit removes events which boost your stats and seem PRETTY HELPFUL. Straight up installed the porn patch just so I could get my bonus HP before I began cheating. claw game handjob fucked around with this message at 05:46 on Sep 18, 2021 |
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Sep 18, 2021 05:35
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There's better options even if you limit yourself to one handed rpgs
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the purpose of that series is to just annoy me when im trying to find new lesbian VNs and they inevitably flood the results what a perfect time for me to recommend Lady in Mystery, the south korean historical yuri detective story VN. Art by the artist of The Love Doctor, which is the movie Hitch with Will Smith, but lesbians. 10/10, its totally a rpg too thiss is not a lie!
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even in the earlier years there were the games by dancing dragon like skyborn, deadly sin 2 and echoes of aetheria. and ys oath/origin have been on steam for like a decade. trails in the sky 8 years ago
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TheMightyBoops posted:Has anyone played those Sakura games, I’m sure theyre awful I’m just curious as to how awful? They're plain as dry toast. The art is generically ok, the writing is generically bad. Some of them are free if you're curious enough to spend 5 minutes finding out. Gaius Marius posted:There's better options even if you limit yourself to one handed rpgs The Rance appreciator has logged on
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secretly best girl posted:I think the only one relevant to this thread would be Sakura Dungeon, which was, rather than just being a generic VN, an even blander dungeon crawler. Unless I missed something obvious it was pretty brutally grindy too, I turned on XP boost codes to make my way through by the end and as a result boss battles went from playing rocket tag to long slow slogs where I had higher defense than the boss but the fights were dragging because of how much HP they had.
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Acerbatus posted:They're plain as dry toast. The art is generically ok, the writing is generically bad. Some of them are free if you're curious enough to spend 5 minutes finding out. Oh yeah, I’m not curious enough to play them, I was more wondering if people do. An anime porn game would have to be ridiculously compelling in some other way for me to play it because the main point of a porn game isn’t appealing to me.
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Endorph posted:funfact, that game is also a complete ripoff in every single way of another bland dungeon crawler porn game called demon master chris. exact same mechanics and plot hook, literally just slightly different maps I guess those guys who made that one hentai flash game slowbeef had a video on with 100% stolen assets are still getting work. TheMightyBoops posted:Oh yeah, I’m not curious enough to play them, I was more wondering if people do. An anime porn game would have to be ridiculously compelling in some other way for me to play it because the main point of a porn game isn’t appealing to me. I'm sure there's some market for them but I wouldn't be surprised if half their customers were people getting joke gifts or something. There was a humble bundle, once. At any rate, there's no surprisingly good gameplay or writing or whatever like you sometimes see with this kind of thing . Acerbatus fucked around with this message at 06:04 on Sep 18, 2021 |
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Sep 18, 2021 06:00
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ideally a porn game can be experimental in weird ways with its mechanics, since people are buying it for things besides gameplay the gameplay itself can be extremely niche and still financially viable. in reality most of the porn games on steam are just crappy dungeon crawlers with porn stapled in after boss fights.
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Endorph posted:ideally a porn game can be experimental in weird ways with its mechanics, since people are buying it for things besides gameplay the gameplay itself can be extremely niche and still financially viable. in reality most of the porn games on steam are just crappy dungeon crawlers with porn stapled in after boss fights. I remember there was at least one surprisingly good srpg that happened to be an eroge. Just someone working on it really sincerely wanted to make an srpg, too. Or there's stuff like katawa shoujo that at least tries to have the sex scenes be sincerely emotional and interesting moments even outside of the titillation factor. The world of eroge is a strange place. Acerbatus fucked around with this message at 06:10 on Sep 18, 2021 |
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Acerbatus posted:At any rate, there's no surprisingly good gameplay or writing or whatever like you sometimes see with this kind of thing . Yeah, can confirm. The Sakura team are not making secret gems, it's stale toast all the way down. And apparently it's someone else's toast recipe too!
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Does the Winged Cloud CEO still keep their artist in a theoretical basement and prevent them from ever talking to anyone
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Im going to play Astria Ascending because I have game pass and a problem, but I didn't know I could hate armor pants this much until looking at the key art
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