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spankmeister posted:what about scotch eggs? that's not an Americanism it was a mispronunciation of "scorched" eggs that originally took off in london before being associated with scotland later, iirc. it's separate from the sellotape->scotch tape thing and the scottish whisky -> scotch whiskey thing
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Jose posted:hadley freeman has quit at the guardian and blamed corbyn for it lol Great parting poo poo Hadley, facile and tiresome to the end. It’s remarkable how many people who have never had a thought worth writing down get paid for their bad opinions in this country but she was extra special. I’d rather read daily thinkpieces on monarchy by CoolCab
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Shogi posted:Great parting poo poo Hadley, facile and tiresome to the end. It’s remarkable how many people who have never had a thought worth writing down get paid for their bad opinions in this country but she was extra special. I’d rather read daily thinkpieces on monarchy by CoolCab lmao i'd wind up having committed suicide by chopping myself into pieces and delivering myself to various trash bins within the week
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Starmer ‘must win over soft Tory voters for election success’ Study says it is vital for party to prioritise Conservative supporters open to voting labour Soft Conservative supporters make up the overwhelming majority of voters Keir Starmer will need to win over to have a chance of victory at the next election, according to new analysis revealing he has so far failed to gain much backing from the group. With the Labour leader preparing for a conference that has been built up as the moment he will spell out a clearer vision and direction for the party, an extensive study into the electoral hurdles he faces has underlined the task of winning Tory voters Two in five voters who did not vote Labour at the last election are currently open to doing so in the future. Of those, 27% voted Conservative, 17% voted Lib Dem, 3% voted Green and 5% voted for other parties. (The rest did not vote.) However, when analysts took into account the likelihood of people to vote and where the votes were actually needed to win seats, the importance of Tory voters increased hugely. When the group is adjusted for its likelihood to vote, soft Tory supporters account for 43% of the group. Among voters in the 150 most winnable seats for Labour, they make up 53%. Researchers then added the “double-counting” bonus – where winning a vote from a main opponent counts twice, as it is one fewer for them and one more for Labour. When that was taken into account, soft Tories made up 63% of the persuadable group. The analysis was drawn up by Opinium’s Chris Curtis for the Progressive Britain group, which sits on the right of the Labour party. Curtis is also part of the team that produces opinion polls for the Observer. “It might seem appealing to concentrate on consolidating supposedly progressive voters under the Labour banner, targeting Lib Dems, Greens and non-voters,” the report concludes. “This would avoid having to reach out to Conservative voters in the centre ground of public opinion. However, such an approach has severe limitations.
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Wow, a poll from a centre right group thinks Labour should move centre right, headline news
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i wonder what percentage of the country actually shares politics with the labour right. its got to be so insanely tiny
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the actual labour right are unpopular psychos with insane ideas but a lot of the labour centre and centre right are just pudding brained newspaper readers like most of the electorate and the newspaper writers themselves, theres certainly more of that lot than the left labour arguably marshalled as many lefty people as are gonna vote for labour and it was enough to get beaten by theresa may and slaughtered by boris johnson
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spankmeister posted:The thing about diesel subs is they can run completely silent. Nuclear subs cannot, because at a minimum they have to keep the reactor cooling system running. Coupled with some sneaky use of thermal layers hiding them from sonar and whatnot those diesel boats'll sneak up on ya. Luckily, diesel sub technology is lost so nobody can use them anymore
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Jose posted:i wonder what percentage of the country actually shares politics with the labour right. its got to be so insanely tiny did you ever go to CLP meetings because i'm pretty sure you can count them on a city basis, lol
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George Rouncewell posted:Luckily, diesel sub technology is lost so nobody can use them anymore Crossposting myself from the Covid thread - having only just learned how incredibly bad the UK is at handling the waste from nuclear subs about a week ago, it's tremendously funny that we've decided to go all-in on some more New Found Power posted:I discovered recently that, in the UK at least, we get around the problem of defuelling/decommissioning by, uh, just not doing it:
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lol for those who didn't read the full article earlier check these bits out. Again, the labour right and centre right have truly abominable politics that is absolutely hated by the country and they're rightfully not trusted on anything https://twitter.com/FisherAndrew79/status/1439260594880798723?s=20 https://twitter.com/FisherAndrew79/status/1439261818556493826?s=20
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lmao https://twitter.com/kimwillsher1/status/1439294035357749257?s=20
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tabernac lmao
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perfidious albion!!!!!!
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Jel Shaker posted:didn’t a wargame end early because a single diesel submarine completely trashed the blue team 
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down periscope fuckin' rules
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did kelsey grammar play an admiral in two comedies or am i misremembering pentagon wars?
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kelsey grammar's greatest role is in the hit movie Money Plane https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aETz_dRDEys https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yoHHk4zERyU
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CoolCab posted:did kelsey grammar play an admiral in two comedies or am i misremembering pentagon wars? he was only a captain in down periscope i think? iirc the prize was commanding a new LA class submarine
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CoolCab posted:did kelsey grammar play an admiral in two comedies or am i misremembering pentagon wars? Loves the Australian queen Doesn't know the difference between land and sea
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oh riiiiiight the water was because they made it amphibious i was sitting here going "no that movie definitely ended with something sinking"
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coolcab (for me to poop in)
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Greedy Britain
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Communist Thoughts posted:the actual labour right are unpopular psychos with insane ideas but a lot of the labour centre and centre right are just pudding brained newspaper readers like most of the electorate and the newspaper writers themselves, theres certainly more of that lot than the left this reframing the story of 2017 as being "beaten by theresa may" is still going to be incredibly stupid no matter how many weird lessons you try to draw from it
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V. Illych L. posted:this reframing the story of 2017 as being "beaten by theresa may" is still going to be incredibly stupid no matter how many weird lessons you try to draw from it come on, mate this is such a stupid argument, we didn't get beaten as badly as everyone predicted but the tories still formed the government not labour, and with a huge labour surge and a terrible tory candidate it makes it seem like the best you can offer people is the possibility of narrowly losing to the tories again but pretending its victory amongst ourselves imagine explaining this position to any normie
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france knows of perfidious albion
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AND DONT YOU loving FORGET IT
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Communist Thoughts posted:come on, mate I mean the one thing Tory voters like to do is die of old age. It's not a strategy, but you'd have an always increasing chance to stumble into the government with 2017 results. the brands 
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does Subway still sell cake disguised as bread, or do they just not have to give a poo poo about that these days, what with the UK being the way it is
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I don't even think subways bread has atypical sugar content for American bread. they wind up putting that poo poo everywhere. nothing in this country is quite like wonderbread, thank goodness.
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Communist Thoughts posted:come on, mate i would point to literally any coverage from the period, which portrayed it as a labour triumph, you just want to do your weird kinnock tribute act
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V. Illych L. posted:i would point to literally any coverage from the period, which portrayed it as a labour triumph, you just want to do your weird kinnock tribute act it's a totally, totally internalized narrative, among the plp press and even membership/voter core, let alone the general public. it's really quite wild how quickly it happened.
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like, the period between 2017 and 2019 was by far the most eye opening in terms of social democracy being rendered impossible by any means necessary. the press hasn't been the same since - it's always been awful but those high watermarks have never receded. you're also seeing period liberal superstars losing their positions and degrading themselves on dance shows as the press and establishment realizes it has absolutely no use for them anymore. see also how remain just evaporated
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the loving plp of all people literally gave Corbyn a standing ovation when he came into parliament after the 2017 election but yes it was a massive tragedy and actually a huge indictment of socialist politics
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CoolCab posted:like, the period between 2017 and 2019 was by far the most eye opening in terms of social democracy being rendered impossible by any means necessary. the press hasn't been the same since - it's always been awful but those high watermarks have never receded. you're also seeing period liberal superstars losing their positions and degrading themselves on dance shows as the press and establishment realizes it has absolutely no use for them anymore. the story of remain and the peoples march was such an epic debacle if they made it into a movie people would say no these people are too stupid to be real
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lol we're rapidly getting tot he situation worse than anything from the 70s and boomers will love it https://www.theguardian.com/money/2021/sep/18/dont-panic-business-minister-bids-to-calm-crisis-fears-as-uk-gas-prices-soar
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