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Commander Keene posted:I noticed a huge difference in the time it takes for Windows to boot and be ready to use after switching from HDD to NVME, but honestly the load time savings on games haven't been huge, IMO. I'll be interested in seeing how the Deck runs off of SD, but honestly I highly doubt my small Steam library will fill the drive on the Deck anyways. Load times in Total War Warhammer go from like 3 minutes per battle on HDD to 10 seconds on SSD. It's very noticeable in that game.
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I checked the thread thinking there was some news about the Steam Deck but it turns out some people think a microSD slot is going to read other media types and people are really concerned about microSD speeds.
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You go to forums for people talking about trivial bullshit that doesn't matter, not "news".
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The Kins posted:https://twitter.com/OnDeck/status/1449125327108669440
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n4 posted:I checked the thread thinking there was some news about the Steam Deck but it turns out some people think a microSD slot is going to read other media types and people are really concerned about microSD speeds. Cool thanks for letting us know!
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https://www.steamdeck.com/en/verified Looks like Valve has launched their own official version of ProtonDB for the Deck
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Seems like solid at-a-glance info. Some of the the margins for getting “playable” seem a little wide but at least there’s a “click here for more info” button with why.
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quote:This is an ongoing evaluation of the entire catalog and a game's rating can change over time - titles will be re-reviewed as the developer releases updates or the Deck's software improves. Considering the size of steam's library at this point, that.. is going to be a lot of dedicated manhours...
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That is most likely their plan. But even still, it'll be a healthy amount of checking/rechecking as fads eb and flow. Also, looking back at the steam deck twitter and somehow missed this that was retweeted back at the end of sept. Best tweet. https://twitter.com/feresignum/status/1442263301283401729
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FBS posted:https://www.steamdeck.com/en/verified I know it's probably just a coincidence but it's kind of hilarious that they used Valve games as the example of every category except "Verified".
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Anno posted:Some of the the margins for getting “playable” seem a little wide 
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I feel like this is the most amount of work Valvhas put into a product in a while
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How come a game needs controller support to be 'verified'? Thought this thing had steam controller style mouse track pad things.
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It's just very conservative. Any tinkering need at all (like using trackpads for mouse input instead of direct controller input) will downgrade the rating. No problem at all for people who want to do that, but for someone who hasn't played on a PC it's a big thing. Verified games work straight out of the box just like a console would. I think it's a great way to label the games without being confusing to newcomers.
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Yeah I think they are just be cautious which is IMO the correct way to do it
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There's a video too https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_OAqvtlgfGA
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NRVNQSR posted:I know it's probably just a coincidence but it's kind of hilarious that they used Valve games as the example of every category except "Verified".
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condolences to the valve intern who has to test all the weird porn games
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repiv posted:condolences to the valve intern who has to test all the weird porn games What else would Gabe be doing all day in New Zealand?
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NRVNQSR posted:I know it's probably just a coincidence but it's kind of hilarious that they used Valve games as the example of every category except "Verified". It was absolutely not a coincidence. They aren't going to badmouth any company/partner for not being verified. They picked their own games for the negative ratings on purpose. Edit: Not yet at least, they are giving companies time to get ready for the launch. Dramicus fucked around with this message at 00:15 on Oct 19, 2021 |
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repiv posted:condolences to the valve intern who has to test all the weird porn games I'd love to get paid to beat off, you kidding me?
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Some stuff I stumbled on with google's amp looking at reddit. For one to finish the discussion on hired interns, valve apparently said they hired a group of people and plan to hire more just to do steam deck compatibility testing. Was in a rock, paper, shotgun article. https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/steam-deck-compatibility-interview quote:We've hired an additional group of testers specifically for Steam Deck compatibility, and will continue to hire additional staff to support this group. It will take time to review the Steam catalog (in addition to the new titles that are being launched all the time), and we see some version of this process being in place for the foreseeable future. Meanwhile, in bigger news from reddit was spotting ethan lee posting up on twitter: https://twitter.com/flibitijibibo/status/1450937762606194695 It is a full thread of him showing off pictures of 64 games he has developed running on the steam deck. Apparently he has done more, but per media policy, he can't show it off himself. Includes FEZ, Celeste, and Spacechem.
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I wonder why they have Alyx marked as not working, can the deck just not run it at all? Like if it has a USB-C output with displayport, I’d assume it could run VR at lower graphics settings?
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Quantum of Phallus posted:I wonder why they have Alyx marked as not working, can the deck just not run it at all? Like if it has a USB-C output with displayport, I’d assume it could run VR at lower graphics settings? I'm pretty sure their criteria for "working on deck" includes "does not require additional hardware", so no VR-only game is going to get that status. It's so that you don't get games that "work on deck" but only if you plug in a keyboard.
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Quantum of Phallus posted:I wonder why they have Alyx marked as not working, can the deck just not run it at all? Like if it has a USB-C output with displayport, I’d assume it could run VR at lower graphics settings? I think valve said it may work, but also just also said don't really try as it isn't designed for it. So VR only titles are automatically getting marked as not working. I forgot to add one other bit of news too. Apparently some reddit people on r/steamdeck are proclaiming their pre-orders moved up from q1 to december. Mine is unchanged with q2 though. Also, god of war is coming to pc via steam which means god of war is coming to steam deck. https://twitter.com/jasonschreier/status/1450852587377504278
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NRVNQSR posted:I'm pretty sure their criteria for "working on deck" includes "does not require additional hardware", so no VR-only game is going to get that status. It's so that you don't get games that "work on deck" but only if you plug in a keyboard. Ah, gotya
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Quantum of Phallus posted:I wonder why they have Alyx marked as not working, can the deck just not run it at all? Like if it has a USB-C output with displayport, I’d assume it could run VR at lower graphics settings? because its below min spec op
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Stux posted:because its below min spec op cool, ty stux
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If I don’t have a Deck already pre ordered, what’s the best guess for when I could realistically expect to get my hands on one?
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shadowvine118 posted:If I don’t have a Deck already pre ordered, what’s the best guess for when I could realistically expect to get my hands on one? I don't think we know any more than what it says on the preorder page. I think it'll vary by region, so you should see what it says for you.
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Too bad you can't plug it into a USB 3.1 thunderbolt 4 external GPU. That's the VR route for the pricier GDP Win 3.
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If you're at the point where you're docking it and plugging in an egpu and vr headset and who knows what else, please... just get a desktop pc.
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Dr. Video Games 0031 posted:just get a desktop pc. lol good one
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Quantum of Phallus posted:I wonder why they have Alyx marked as not working, can the deck just not run it at all? Like if it has a USB-C output with displayport, I’d assume it could run VR at lower graphics settings? It's weird because their video about the support verification makes it sound like games in the "Unsupported" section won't even run: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_OAqvtlgfGA&t=82s Valve posted:A game that is unsupported just isn't playable on deck, VR games for example are all unsupported. As are games that the deck's operating system doesn't work with yet. The way they phrase it makes it seem like VR games won't even run, but who knows exactly what they mean by "just isn't playable."
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Commander Keene posted:I mean they're probably running under the assumption that the user has the Deck and nothing else, not even a kb+m setup. They're probably not going out of their way to disable VR games if you already have a headset. Not a probably about kb+m btw. It is in the requirements that the game supports full gamepad support. So I can see them saying nope if it is vr only.
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Hopeful update about (probably?) the final big thing that wasn't supported on proton: CEG. https://twitter.com/SteamDB/status/1453989916430450689?t=B8-GfQzyu9H5rQhu4wtaiQ&s=19 There was a discussion about it earlier in the thread. If you missed it, here's the GitHub issue log for it (includes results from this patch on the bottom): https://github.com/ValveSoftware/Proton/issues/753
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