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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bqc04Eu03cA
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SlothfulCobra posted:
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# ? Nov 6, 2021 17:54 |
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dr_rat posted:Lack of labeling on the buttons when there is so few isn't that much of a big deal. Qualified professional could trivially memories each of those. What I would say is unrealistic is the amount of information they are getting from their displays for when they push those buttons. Who among us couldn't determine the exact working order of a complex machine like a transporter from a series of unlabeled flashing lights and rectangles? MikeJF posted:They actually did do a guide for actors for TMP on what everything was, it's here. Thanks, that's actually pretty cool! I'm a nerd for detailed technical details like this.
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# ? Nov 6, 2021 17:59 |
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Admiralty Flag posted:And of course it usually wasn't Scotty sliding them; it was his hand double, for the man had given the Nazis the finger at D-Day I never understood why Doohan was sensitive about that.
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# ? Nov 6, 2021 18:05 |
Flotter fuckin rules tho
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# ? Nov 6, 2021 18:28 |
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Khanstant posted:Flotter fuckin rules tho
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# ? Nov 6, 2021 18:44 |
trevis stans are so loving obnoxious
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# ? Nov 6, 2021 20:25 |
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F_Shit_Fitzgerald posted:In the films, Spock has what looks like an ongoing game of Dr. Mario in several panels: Spock's the science officer right? It's a game of life for various mathematic/genetics testing, imo.
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# ? Nov 6, 2021 20:42 |
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Brawnfire posted:There really should have been a tradition of space shanties, every time we open on the bridge at least a couple people are drumming on a console and intoning "she was a lass from a faraway world the dusky beauty of a Risian girl with her horgahn out and top pulled down I lost my heart in a Risian town" or some poo poo, Riker's all HO HO, WOULDN'T YOU KNOW, OUT TO THE BLACK IS WHERE WE MUST GO, YEOMEN ALL AT THE HELM OF THIS SCOW AND THE STARS WILL GUIDE US TO DISTANT SHORES be careful what you wish for https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjxMieuRPe4
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# ? Nov 6, 2021 22:24 |
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I can't find a good video of it but the Expanse used a cover of an old sea shanty really well
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# ? Nov 6, 2021 23:05 |
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StashAugustine posted:I can't find a good video of it but the Expanse used a cover of an old sea shanty really well Aha, I knew I had a space shanties seed planted in me somewhere! Poor Klaes Ashford...
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# ? Nov 6, 2021 23:31 |
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Sing, Worf, sing Edit: Just realizing how out-of-character it was for Worf not to sing with Picard to save his friend. Sandbagging during karaoke is without honor!
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# ? Nov 6, 2021 23:34 |
Brawnfire posted:There really should have been a tradition of space shanties, every time we open on the bridge at least a couple people are drumming on a console and intoning "she was a lass from a faraway world the dusky beauty of a Risian girl with her horgahn out and top pulled down I lost my heart in a Risian town" or some poo poo, Riker's all HO HO, WOULDN'T YOU KNOW, OUT TO THE BLACK IS WHERE WE MUST GO, YEOMEN ALL AT THE HELM OF THIS SCOW AND THE STARS WILL GUIDE US TO DISTANT SHORES I could have sworn Klingons have been portrayed doing sea shanties as they ride into battle.
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# ? Nov 6, 2021 23:38 |
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Nitrousoxide posted:I could have sworn Klingons have been portrayed doing sea shanties as they ride into battle. Maybe from the Star Trek: Klingon FMV game?
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# ? Nov 6, 2021 23:41 |
Angry_Ed posted:Maybe from the Star Trek: Klingon FMV game? Lol yep, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNTVzwjEyb4 also DS9 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=740Eo5J7S7g
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# ? Nov 6, 2021 23:45 |
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I don't have anything to use this on but you all need it.
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# ? Nov 7, 2021 00:04 |
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Not a chance.
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# ? Nov 7, 2021 00:24 |
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Nitrousoxide posted:I could have sworn Klingons have been portrayed doing sea shanties as they ride into battle. Yeah there's more than one remark in the show that Klingon's sing constantly on their ship I think it's Bashir talking to Miles about being on a Klingon ship.
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# ? Nov 7, 2021 00:35 |
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# ? Nov 7, 2021 00:52 |
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Brute Squad posted:be careful what you wish for This is the wrong franchise, but: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kc2wst6t95c
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# ? Nov 7, 2021 00:57 |
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Nitrousoxide posted:Lol yep, I think the spirit of sea shanties got a little lost because of how much they were focusing on the whole noble warrior nature of Klingons, and it's just a slow war chant, but the willingness to jump into Klingon music was a big part of what really got a lot of Klingon culture fleshed out.
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# ? Nov 7, 2021 01:09 |
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SlothfulCobra posted:I imagine somebody in the days before common computers just glazing their eyes over when looking at a keyboard as just a sea of buttons as well, You mean, before typewriters, I assume.
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# ? Nov 7, 2021 03:04 |
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Winifred Madgers posted:You mean, before typewriters, I assume. No. Typewriters only did one thing. Computers were arcane to people who grew up in a time before they became common. The concept of typing a phrase and a complex series of actions being performed was pretty much a first in the history of the human race. We're talking about people who expected that in order to make a ship go, you needed to bark orders into an oily, sweaty room full of men who grunted and strained at valves, switches, and shouted orders through tubes. Your computer keyboard or phone would be completely alien to the typical person in the 1960s. Sure, they could figure out how to write (once you explained the concept of a mouse, of a desktop, and then how to click on notepad.exe) but it'd be an uphill struggle to show them hotkeys, macros, and configurations.
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# ? Nov 7, 2021 03:37 |
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Computer keyboards went through a fair amount of changes from typewriters, but even aside from that, typewriters were never as common as keyboards later became. There was less proliferation of the technology, and there was even a dumb bullshit bias against using typewriters so that a lot of professionals would just have typists instead of doing typing themselves, leaving the actual typewriter as a mysterious thing. I'd assume that with all the cameras and microphones and lights on a TV set, there'd be some kinds of mysterious consoles full of buttons, switches, and sliders to control all of that that would be totally mysterious to any layman. Maybe even a box of fuses put someplace weird. I don't know anything about 60s TV though.
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# ? Nov 7, 2021 04:10 |
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Oh man you have no idea. Early TV capture and transmission was using bleeding-edge technology. Analog TV was a very weird technology that is rapidly fading into an arcane mystery.
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# ? Nov 7, 2021 04:31 |
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Arglebargle III posted:Oh man you have no idea. Early TV capture and transmission was using bleeding-edge technology. Analog TV was a very weird technology that is rapidly fading into an arcane mystery. Get a load of this poo poo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0wxc3mKqKTk
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# ? Nov 7, 2021 04:51 |
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Tunicate posted:Get a load of this poo poo M O U T H C O N T R O L
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# ? Nov 7, 2021 05:00 |
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I just watched TNG "Night Terrors" and I totally forgot that on top of all the psychological horror, it had this entire plot of Data basically being the only competent person in the room, and finishing peoples sentences for efficiency, and finally basically being in complete control of the ship, culminating in him ordering every single officer to bed. That is super bad rear end. Also, given our real life experiences of the last couple years, can you imagine what it would be like to be those people freaking out in Ten Forward, suddenly hearing "this is acting captain Data reporting". I'd probably be ready to shoot the warp core, myself! EDIT #2: now that I think about it, every member of the crew that isn't the main cast must be terrified of Data. Like, in Brothers, when he just straight up steals the ship. We the audience forgive Data because we know the whole story. The rest of the crew did not see any of that poo poo, and now think that the third in command, a one-in-existence Android with no emotions, is possibly out to kill them. "Why is he allowed to keep his command!?!" would be what I'm thinking in that situation. Bucswabe fucked around with this message at 05:29 on Nov 7, 2021 |
# ? Nov 7, 2021 05:19 |
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SlothfulCobra posted:Computer keyboards went through a fair amount of changes from typewriters, but even aside from that, typewriters were never as common as keyboards later became. The funny thing about this is we still have typewriter ideas underlying our most widespread tech. HTTP officially uses a "carriage return" + "line feed" characters to denote a new line of text, and different operating systems and programs still argue over which combination of CR and LF to use for newline.
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# ? Nov 7, 2021 14:22 |
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Also, when I hit "delete" it pastes a white square offset from and not obscuring the character I'm trying to delete
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# ? Nov 7, 2021 14:28 |
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Marx Headroom posted:The funny thing about this is we still have typewriter ideas underlying our most widespread tech. HTTP officially uses a "carriage return" + "line feed" characters to denote a new line of text, and different operating systems and programs still argue over which combination of CR and LF to use for newline. To be fair the double cr/lf is less about typewriter ideas and more was a hack to cover a lack of standardisation in teleprinters.
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# ? Nov 7, 2021 14:47 |
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SlothfulCobra posted:
I always laugh at this specific shot because if not for the in-universe costumed hand on the left, it could have easily been a piece of stock footage in shot of “random high tech early 80s It’s so weirdly out of place, even with that film having a bunch of extreme close ups of buttons and such otherwise, like the famously insane way to enter a numerical code when remotely lowering Reliant’s shields. It really goes to show the genius of Okuda just printing back-lit transparencies and telling actors to pretend to push certain parts of it— especially in dead silence on the set as the sound effects were all added later but look completely tactile on screen.
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# ? Nov 7, 2021 18:12 |
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SlothfulCobra posted:Of course Wrath of Khan also had a bunch of these things: Yes, this was a deliberate design decision, although it was introduced in The Motion Picture.
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# ? Nov 7, 2021 18:44 |
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Bucswabe posted:I just watched TNG "Night Terrors" and I totally forgot that on top of all the psychological horror, it had this entire plot of Data basically being the only competent person in the room, and finishing peoples sentences for efficiency, and finally basically being in complete control of the ship, culminating in him ordering every single officer to bed. That is super bad rear end. How many other main characters get possessed at some point? If you kicked out everyone in Starfleet who ever got their brains messed with by aliens or space phenomena, you'd be unable to crew half the fleet in no time.
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# ? Nov 7, 2021 18:45 |
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Stardate 44086.3 First Watch, First Bell security team briefing minutes (excerpted): "Wait, you mean to tell me Lt. Commander Data hasn't been thrown in the brig?" - Ens. Donner "It was a type 3 mental control scenario. He was taken over by an outside agent of known origin." -Lt. Worf (everyone nods and moves onto the next order of business)
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# ? Nov 8, 2021 02:08 |
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Isn’t TNG like 28% “troi is possessed”, by content?
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# ? Nov 8, 2021 02:40 |
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Martytoof posted:Isn’t TNG like 28% “troi is possessed”, by content? Another 22% is Troi being possessed by her need to get laid.
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# ? Nov 8, 2021 05:05 |
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man in my rewatch really having a hard time accepting that Kira could possibly reciprocate the feelings of such a disgusting creature (a cop)
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# ? Nov 8, 2021 10:49 |
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They really sort of gloss over the fact that Odo should be seen by Kira and anyone else in the Resistance as a collaborator. The closest they come to addressing it is "Things Past", and that's such a weirdly structured episode that it really doesn't get a chance to examine it in any sort of depth.
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# ? Nov 8, 2021 12:15 |
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There's a throwaway like at the beginning where the Bajoran delegation gave Odo an award and said something like "He worked for the Cardassians but he only served justice." Also I don't really see a huge difference between Odo and any other branch of station/ship security. Worf looked like a kid on Christmas morning every time he escorted someone to the brig. Tuvok lobbied for the death penalty.
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# ? Nov 8, 2021 14:20 |