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My Spirit Otter
Jun 15, 2006


CANADA DOESN'T GET PENS LIKE THIS

SKILCRAFT KREW Reppin' Quality Blind Made American Products. Bitch.

PeterCat posted:

Operation Warp Speed started under the Trump Administration.

https://www.gao.gov/products/gao-21-319

Shut the gently caress up and stir poo poo else where

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Tiny Timbs
Sep 6, 2008

Imagine getting banned from USPol and having to come *here* to post like that

Stultus Maximus
Dec 21, 2009

USPOL May

Are you an idiot or a troll?

facialimpediment
Feb 11, 2005

as the world turns

Stultus Maximus posted:

Are you an idiot or a troll?

Yes.

Subconsciously remembered that poster name so it never really triggered my "yes, I must respond to this heresy!!!" part of my brain and I instead went :effort:

Baconroll
Feb 6, 2009
So the attack in the UK yesterday has been declared a terrorist attack. Theres new video released of the suicide bomber detonating his device still inside a taxi and it kinda looks like a partial detonation,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68DKKEKeRzk

Luckily the taxi driver survived, and it seems he diverted the taxi away from a Rememberance Day ceremony when he realised something was off with the passenger.

mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

Prepare for my priapic projectile's exalted penetration
Nap Ghost
drat, more evidence that Biden is anti-medicine. Terrible news, what a betrayal:

https://twitter.com/mattyglesias/status/1460211182351048704?s=21

Seriously, though, the idea that if someone is effective in developing a fact-ignoring cult of personality, you should just keep them around longer lest their supporters ignore the new leader… lol

stealie72
Jan 10, 2007

mlmp08 posted:

drat, more evidence that Biden is anti-medicine. Terrible news, what a betrayal:

https://twitter.com/mattyglesias/status/1460211182351048704?s=21

Seriously, though, the idea that if someone is effective in developing a fact-ignoring cult of personality, you should just keep them around longer lest their supporters ignore the new leader… lol
Leaving yourself open to two potentially fatal diseases to own the libs. Oh no... don't...

Edit: Seriously, though, is there anything that's NOT partisan in 2021 America? We've allowed ourselves to be brand groups into entre lives based on our politics.

Marshal Prolapse
Jun 23, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Baconroll posted:

So the attack in the UK yesterday has been declared a terrorist attack. Theres new video released of the suicide bomber detonating his device still inside a taxi and it kinda looks like a partial detonation,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68DKKEKeRzk

Luckily the taxi driver survived, and it seems he diverted the taxi away from a Rememberance Day ceremony when he realised something was off with the passenger.

That background audio is something else.

BIG HEADLINE
Jun 13, 2006

"Stand back, Ottawan ruffian, or face my lumens!"

stealie72 posted:

Leaving yourself open to two potentially fatal diseases to own the libs. Oh no... don't...

It'll be more than just COVID and the flu soon, because I could see COVID anti-vaxxers buy into the idea of a ~conspiracy~ by Big Pharma to SEKRETLEE give them the nanobots along with their maintenance doses of other vaccines. It would be interesting to find out how many people are walking around with lapsed tetanus protection just because of "can't go to the doctor 'cause COVID :v:!"

And that COVID/FLU/RSV combo shot (whenever it comes out) is going to breed a new kind of rear end in a top hat who bleats about "wanting the OLD shot WITHOUT the nanobots!"

AreWeDrunkYet
Jul 8, 2006

stealie72 posted:

Leaving yourself open to two potentially fatal diseases to own the libs. Oh no... don't...

Edit: Seriously, though, is there anything that's NOT partisan in 2021 America? We've allowed ourselves to be brand groups into entre lives based on our politics.

At least Idaho and Florida are considering ending vaccine mandates, period. Could we see polio and diphtheria make a comeback? Who knows!

bird food bathtub
Aug 9, 2003

College Slice

AreWeDrunkYet posted:

At least Idaho and Florida are considering ending vaccine mandates, period. Could we see polio and diphtheria make a comeback? Who knows!

Look, there's libs to own. We have to prove how their tyrannical over reach with vaccines will cause a socialism and if kids end up in iron lungs along the way well that's just a price they're willing to pay.

stealie72
Jan 10, 2007
Watching this country speedrun becoming a Russia-style global also-ran that is overcome by regional conflict, disease, and an antiquated economy that exists to enrich its oligarchs sure would be a lot more fun if I was outside of it.

facialimpediment
Feb 11, 2005

as the world turns

stealie72 posted:

Leaving yourself open to two potentially fatal diseases to own the libs. Oh no... don't...

Edit: Seriously, though, is there anything that's NOT partisan in 2021 America? We've allowed ourselves to be brand groups into entre lives based on our politics.

Pre-Trump, the general conjecture is that vaccination rates were decreasing because people had forgotten how bad the vaccinated diseases *were*, so they were susceptible to woo and anti-government messaging. And sure enough:

https://twitter.com/EmGusk/status/1460217524633718790?t=M4BWMsho6K0MZXPrgTQL9g&s=19

This kind of thing is also why I generally want parents kept far the gently caress away from school curricula. If the question "is the COVID vaccine safe for kids?" is a 46% yes to 51% no question, these same people probably shouldn't be in charge of what determines a truth and what determines critical thinking.

Loucks
May 21, 2007

It's incwedibwe easy to suck my own dick.

Baconroll posted:

So the attack in the UK yesterday has been declared a terrorist attack. Theres new video released of the suicide bomber detonating his device still inside a taxi and it kinda looks like a partial detonation,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68DKKEKeRzk

Luckily the taxi driver survived, and it seems he diverted the taxi away from a Rememberance Day ceremony when he realised something was off with the passenger.

That looks like he set it off by accident, unless he was waging a war against taxi drivers for some reason. It’s nice when shitheads who want to kill people are bad at it at least.

Bored As Fuck
Jan 1, 2006
Fun Shoe
https://twitter.com/JackMurphyRGR/status/1460056347056164867?t=ZcHvIyYYQPyvOmMO-Ifs8w&s=19

This but unironically.

Marshal Prolapse
Jun 23, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

So what's the war crime total on them?

Defenestrategy
Oct 24, 2010

facialimpediment posted:

Pre-Trump, the general conjecture is that vaccination rates were decreasing because people had forgotten how bad the vaccinated diseases *were*, so they were susceptible to woo and anti-government messaging. And sure enough:

https://twitter.com/EmGusk/status/1460217524633718790?t=M4BWMsho6K0MZXPrgTQL9g&s=19

This kind of thing is also why I generally want parents kept far the gently caress away from school curricula. If the question "is the COVID vaccine safe for kids?" is a 46% yes to 51% no question, these same people probably shouldn't be in charge of what determines a truth and what determines critical thinking.

I've always been skeptical of Dr. Mom's medical credentials personally.

facialimpediment
Feb 11, 2005

as the world turns
Get your flu shots y'all. It's time.

https://twitter.com/KristenShamus/status/1460262574260424708

quote:

Influenza is sweeping the University of Michigan's Ann Arbor campus, with 528 cases diagnosed at the University Health Service since Oct. 6.

The outbreak is so sudden and large — 313 cases were identified the week of Nov. 8 alone and 37% of flu tests that week were positive — that it's drawn the attention of federal health leaders.
***
Among those who've contracted flu at U-M this fall, 77% didn't get a flu vaccine. The cases were identified as influenza A (H3N2), said Lindsey Mortenson, UHS medical director and acting executive director.

"While we often start to see some flu activity now, the size of this outbreak is unusual," said Juan Luis Marquez, medical director at the Washtenaw County Health Department. "We're grateful for the additional support of the CDC and our ongoing partnership with the university as we look more closely at the situation."

Mr. Nice!
Oct 13, 2005

bone shaking.
soul baking.
https://twitter.com/AP/status/1460258244413296646

Marshal Prolapse
Jun 23, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Can't get pardoned for this one.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TyIMKiWpdU4

Handsome Ralph
Sep 3, 2004

Oh boy, posting!
That's where I'm a Viking!


A member of the gerontocracy is retiring.
https://twitter.com/washingtonpost/status/1460265890075844610

Vermont's congressman, Peter Welch, is expected to run for the seat for the Democrats. No one really knows who the Republicans will run, but Phil Scott is one possible contender.

Butter Activities
May 4, 2018


I don’t think even Jack Murphy is even being all that ironic here, he’s done almost like a Tulsi Gabbard left to right but in reverse

CainFortea
Oct 15, 2004


Godholio posted:

This is why the "no reason to vote/blue no matter who hurrrrr" people bother me. No, a vote for Biden absolutely doesn't fix anything. Not at all. But it kept Trump out of office for four years. Unfortunately, I think these people will have their way in 2024, with the lovely center-right establishment Democrat losing the election. God knows who that will give the White House to, but it's certain to be worse.

It is this mentality that is the real problem. This is exactly why people say blue no matter who mockingly. It isn't our fault that Trump squared will end up in 2024. For every finger you wag at other people, one can be wagged at you for not voting for somebody better than Biden or Trump.

Edit. To be more clear the problem is more systemic than anything. Also apparently I missed a lot of pages?

facialimpediment
Feb 11, 2005

as the world turns
Apparently Phil Scott has a case of the Sununus and has basically told the state GOP to go take their senate nomination and gently caress themselves with it. No idea why you'd want to go from government a state you like, and they like you, to being a senator and voting on endless procedural bullshit.

Butter Activities
May 4, 2018

I’m totally okay with not voting blue no matter who after being blamed with every centrist/Blue Dog loss. Maybe they’ll eventually wake up and run candidates that actually want to deliver policy or do anything that actually counter the rising fascist tide.

mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

Prepare for my priapic projectile's exalted penetration
Nap Ghost

CainFortea posted:

For every finger you wag at other people, one can be wagged at you for not voting for somebody better than Biden or Trump.

The huge problem with this line is that it ignores that the US electoral system is set up as a de facto two party system, and there’s only one president. Arguably, back in the mid-20th century, it behaved like a quasi-four party system in the legislature and via presidential primaries, but still was 2-party at the end. Now it is even more lockstep as two parties.

A lot of the above was not what the framers wanted, but the natural result. As their wants and their results were often misaligned, cause people are fallible and predicting the future is hard.

Unless you meant in the primaries? In which case, yes, 48% of people in Dem primaries did NOT vote for Biden. (Some of those votes were for even more conservative people, but still, that’s a significant number!).

If the argument is that democrats should have deliberately let Trump win to teach Biden supporters a retributive lesson via greater GOP control in the hopes that the country would then correct hard left…. Uh, I don’t think there’s good evidence that would result in an Overton moves left scenario. Maybe, but that assumes a lot without evidence, and at great risk.

Arven
Sep 23, 2007

SMEGMA_MAIL posted:

I don’t think even Jack Murphy is even being all that ironic here, he’s done almost like a Tulsi Gabbard left to right but in reverse

He seems like a true believer of what the government and military claims to stand for, which doesn't square at all with the objective actions of the republicans for the last 10 years. They are all still going to vote red no matter what, but as Trump (temporarily) fades into the background I'm starting to hear some "Trump ruined the party" sentiments by more centrist republicans as the fringes of the party both get more insane and brought to the forefront.

That Works
Jul 22, 2006

Every revolution evaporates and leaves behind only the slime of a new bureaucracy


It's a bit of a Sophie's choice.

Voting for Trump has no definite upsides but might lead to an actual functional progressive movement, but at extreme risk and quantifiable loss and IMO never worth the risk by any means.

Voting for Biden has some upsides compared to Trump 2nd term but is also probably the best way to ensure elimination of a functional progressive movement for another 4-8 years.

So yeah you're left with "things aren't as bad as they can get but the chances of them getting better are not any greater and might be worse".

That Works
Jul 22, 2006

Every revolution evaporates and leaves behind only the slime of a new bureaucracy


Lawgoons is there a non-stupid reason for this?

https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1460275083621150723?s=20

Butter Activities
May 4, 2018

I may actually vote for Biden again, simply because he actually ended the war and hasn’t as totally rolled over to corporate and military-industrial funded dem agenda as the average D Senator. The border stuff is horrible but at least for me as horrible it is I have to weight that in context with who the Dems will run if they decide Biden wasn’t centristing hard enough or Trump round 2.

I’m more thinking about in VA where the Dems ran the most motherfucking boring white bread centrist empty suit moderate and are somehow still blaming progressives and the left for getting trounced.

Butter Activities fucked around with this message at 17:10 on Nov 15, 2021

Marshal Prolapse
Jun 23, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

No, there isn't. Lawgoons discord reactions have generally been WTF and the gently caress.

It's the one charge even some of the lower ends of CHUDs even admitted (privately), "yeah he actually that."

Butter Activities
May 4, 2018


JFC he’s gonna walk and we’re going to have a Rittenhouse showing up itching their trigger fingers at every protest in the next few years.

mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

Prepare for my priapic projectile's exalted penetration
Nap Ghost

SMEGMA_MAIL posted:

I may actually vote for Biden again, simply because he actually ended the war and hasn’t as totally rolled over to corporate and military-industrial funded dem agenda as the average D Senator.

This was one of the bigger surprises for me. I could have seen that getting kicked or attempted (probably poorly!) renegotiated with the Taliban or some such, but getting out only a bit behind agreed schedule instead took some political fortitude. Probably even as a political move, cynically works anyway, because already the idea of “let’s still fight in Afghanistan” seems to have died down. I really doubt a major line in 2023/24 is going to be “I will get us back into Afghanistan and never would have left!”

Arven
Sep 23, 2007
I know goons love to hate on Robert Evans these days, but It Could Happen Here is proving to be spookily accurate.

Stultus Maximus
Dec 21, 2009

USPOL May

SMEGMA_MAIL posted:

I may actually vote for Biden again, simply because he actually ended the war and hasn’t as totally rolled over to corporate and military-industrial funded dem agenda as the average D Senator. The border stuff is horrible but at least for me as horrible it is I have to weight that in context with who the Dems will run if they decide Biden wasn’t centristing hard enough or Trump round 2.

I’m more thinking about in VA where the Dems ran the most motherfucking boring white bread centrist empty suit moderate and are somehow still blaming progressives and the left for getting trounced.

The war ending was messy and inept, but that would be true for literally anyone. Biden knew it and unlike W, Obama, and Trump, he had the loving courage to take the L and do what was right. You have to give him credit for it.

Defenestrategy
Oct 24, 2010

MazelTovCocktail posted:

No, there isn't. Lawgoons discord reactions have generally been WTF and the gently caress.

It's the one charge even some of the lower ends of CHUDs even admitted (privately), "yeah he actually that."

So this is definitely Jury Nullification right? There's no way to get around, a 17 year old having a rifle with video of him having a rifle?

Butter Activities
May 4, 2018

The only people I’ve seen really mad at robert evans are the insanely online cspam Glen Greenwald fan club types. Yeah it’d be great if he was more critical of his involvement with Bellingcat but to his credit he’s one of the few leftist voices that seems to also be in that niche of mainstream enough to hook liberals and progressives to engage more with actual leftist content.

I feel like most of the criticism besides his connection to Brown Moses is just too online leftist infighting bullshit.

Marshal Prolapse
Jun 23, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Defenestrategy posted:

So this is definitely Jury Nullification right? There's no way to get around, a 17 year old having a rifle with video of him having a rifle?

Well Judge nullification. I haven't seen the reason, but honestly none of it makes any sense.

Naramyth
Jan 22, 2009

Australia cares about cunts. Including this one.

Arven posted:

I know goons love to hate on Robert Evans these days, but It Could Happen Here is proving to be spookily accurate.

Why don’t we like Evans now?

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That Works
Jul 22, 2006

Every revolution evaporates and leaves behind only the slime of a new bureaucracy


SMEGMA_MAIL posted:

The only people I’ve seen really mad at robert evans are the insanely online cspam Glen Greenwald fan club types. Yeah it’d be great if he was more critical of his involvement with Bellingcat but to his credit he’s one of the few leftist voices that seems to also be in that niche of mainstream enough to hook liberals and progressives to engage more with actual leftist content.

I feel like most of the criticism besides his connection to Brown Moses is just too online leftist infighting bullshit.

Big same.

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