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He's the minority leader of the House GOP and he's from the central valley in CA. Whining about taxes, deficits, and invading hordes of brown people is literally his entire job description. He's also an incredibly stupid man.
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Greenwald and his ilk are just the New Athiests 2.0 Brains completely destroyed by a cultural event completely beyond them that annihilates their viewer base (9/11 then, Trump now) so they desperately try to triangulate to seem hip and relevant, but in the end they have no audience because their brand doesn't allow them to embrace total fascism now so they just meekly whine about drag queens and protesters as history erases them in favor of actual lunatics like the Qanon shaman and Alex Jones The guy is competing with earholes and eyeballs with Tim Pool now lmao, pathetic
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Here's a live stream if you want to watch mccarthy poo poo out of his mouth. https://live.house.gov/
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HonorableTB posted:The Guardian has, uh, endorsed blowing up fossil fuel infrastructure. You love to see it Continuing with the status quo with regards to climate action is going to radically change human civilization within decades (which is a euphemism for "millions of people will die and tens of millions of people will become refugees"). People who are comfortable with the status quo don't change the system unless something happens to make them reconsider. They're not going to become uncomfortable with the status quo until enough pressure is put on to make them uncomfortable. Peaceful sit-ins in front of a few offices are not going to be enough pressure. Looking at it from that perspective, it's a logical conclusion to reach.
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McCarthy currently arguing that they need to defeat the bill because the child tax credit will keep teenagers out of the work force and destroy businesses that rely on entry-level workers who are already hurting from a labor shortage. Not sure if he really thinks that the child tax credit goes to paying children or if he is just running out of material after an hour.
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skylined! posted:Here's a live stream if you want to watch mccarthy poo poo out of his mouth. 3 minutes in and he's just being a whiny shithead.
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Abner Assington posted:I mean I don't disagree with you, but I don't think kids learn about Jimmy Hoffa? All I knew about Jimmy Hoffa as a kid was that he was the punchline to a lot of standup jokes that I didn't get.
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I always heard he might be buried in the meadowlands. That’s like, a Northeast urban fairy tale.
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TulliusCicero posted:Bu it makes the economy seem stronger! Defaulting on student loan debt becomes a criminal offense, a felony even. Debtor's prisons become more of a thing. And you have millions of left-leaning people who are not only instantly disenfranchised but also condemned to convict lease-style prison work or wage slavery. Any recession or depression triggered by a massive student loan default gets hanged on debtors' shoulders. The face of a man who spends his evenings surrounded by empty whiskey bottles.
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CBS is interviewing a panel of Trump voters for their assessments on Biden's legislative agenda. It's not looking good for him. They are concerned about paying people to not work causing inflation, too many drugs being let into the country through the border because border patrol has its hands tied, gas prices rising because American oil production has been stopped, the deficit is too high, they are scared vaccine mandates for kids are coming, and worried that giving healthcare to states that decided not to expand Medicaid is interfering with states rights and giving people another reason to not want to go back to work. One person is happy that we are finally beating China on infrastructure. Edit: It was ABC, not CBS. Leon Trotsky 2012 fucked around with this message at 04:36 on Nov 19, 2021 |
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:CBS is interviewing a panel of Trump voters for their assessments on Biden's legislative agenda. Would they ever be happy unless we built a border wall out of the bodies of migrant children?
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:CBS is interviewing a panel of Trump voters for their assessments on Biden's legislative agenda. Who gives a gently caress Most of them on that panel probably believe Trump will be reinstalled as God-Emperor any day now I'm so sick of hearing what Trump supporters think: I had to hear it for 5+ loving years, you ran the country into the ground, now shut the gently caress up already  And I can just guess the demographic makeup of that panel
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Got a link for that focus group, Leon? Sounds like a Frank Luntz special.
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Willa Rogers posted:Got a link for that focus group, Leon? It's not Frank Luntz. I didn't recognize the guy hosting it, but it was on ABC about 5 minutes ago. It will probably be on their video section soon. They also read comments from Biden voters that disapproved of Biden on the economy, but didn't do a focus group. The Biden voter segment looks like it was a video version of this article for the nightly news: https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/amid-economic-woes-biden-voters-economy-faltering-speak/story?id=81207785 I just thought it was funny that we are still doing focus groups of Trump voters.
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Yeah, I was going to ask if there was a parallel panel for Biden voters; thanks for the link. *** Just lol if the House kills BBB bc of the SALT deduction for richies: quote:Democratic Rep. Jared Golden of Maine announced ahead of the final House vote that he would vote against the bill, citing the tax provision.
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Is that Big Beautiful Bill passed yet?
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Willa Rogers posted:Yeah, I was going to ask if there was a parallel panel for Biden voters; thanks for the link. Golden was also the only Dem to vote against the stimulus bill because he thought the stimulus checks were fiscally irresponsible and the aid to state governments didn't have enough strings attached. He's a weird blue dog. The Senate is going to implement their version of SALT (the Menendez-Sanders compromise) and that might actually cause a problem when they send it back to the House if the 12 SALT Dems are upset about it. The House version is ridiculously stupid. It caps the deduction at 80k with no income limit. The Senate version has no deduction benefit cap, but caps the deduction to only people who made less than $400k and is about half the size of the House version. I kind of wish they had a focus group for the Biden voters who disapproved of his handling of the economy instead of the Trump voters. The article version is pretty brutal, but it and the video version were just 1 or 2 sentence responses and I would have been interested to see them elaborate or follow up. Or if they had any of the 40% approval economy people on to ask them why they approved. The Trump voter focus group just seemed pointless. But, if you are going to only ask the people who disapproved, then the Biden voters who disapprove would be more interesting. Leon Trotsky 2012 fucked around with this message at 04:54 on Nov 19, 2021 |
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Willa Rogers posted:See, this is that ventriloquizing I mentioned upthread, when a cartoonish take of one's enemy is so strong, whether due to echo chambers or self-soothing, that it stamps out common sense & reason because of its overly reductive take. Because they don't outflank from the left, you're just fantasizing that they will, a weird D&Dism that has gone on for years now. The very evening you made this bold prediction, McCarthy got up and told everyone the child tax credit was bad, actually, because somehow teenagers will become welfare babies instead of knowing the glory of earning their place. The Republican Party isn't going to suddenly align itself against its own historical positions because the Democrats are too moderate/conservative. They will push for more conservatism.
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David Brooks just made me nauseous again. https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/18/opinion/biden-infrastructure-stimulus-bill.html quote:If presidencies were judged by short-term popularity, the Biden effort would look pretty bad. But that’s a terrible measure. First-term presidents almost always see their party get hammered in the midterm after their inauguration. That’s especially true if the president achieved big things. Michigan State political scientist Matt Grossmann looked at House popular vote trends since 1953. Often when presidents succeeded in passing major legislation — Republicans as well as Democrats — voters swung against the president’s party. Look, just to take a recent example, at how Obamacare preceded a Democratic shellacking in 2010. People distrust change. Success mobilizes opposition. It’s often only in retrospect that these policies become popular and even sacred. I can't tell if I should be pleasantly surprised that Brooks isn't parroting Reaganomics nonsense or unpleasantly surprised since pleasing people like him is a sign of political disaster. Why do I do this to myself? I should stay away when I see his picture. Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:I kind of wish they had a focus group for the Biden voters who disapproved of his handling of the economy instead of the Trump voters. The article version is pretty brutal, but it and the video version were just 1 or 2 sentence responses and I would have been interested to see them elaborate or follow up. There's enough fuel in that article you shared to blame everyone and not just the centrists. Sounds like a lot of voters would have loved for the bipartisan deal to have passed ASAP, so it does look like the CPC are going to be easy fall guys. Eric Cantonese fucked around with this message at 04:54 on Nov 19, 2021 |
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https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1461541239371698177 Kind of surprised that Cotton thinks this is a good PR move. The only other time it happened it was massively unpopular. The White House already said they won't do a full boycott, but might do a "diplomatic boycott" where no politicians attend.
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1461541239371698177 I knew people on the 1980 Olympic Team. It sucked.
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skylined! posted:Here's a live stream if you want to watch mccarthy poo poo out of his mouth.
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1461541239371698177 The GOP wants a Carter repeat, so it would make sense to encourage this. If Biden put solar panels on the roof of the White House, I bet a bunch of GOP people would have trouble containing their hard-ons.
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TulliusCicero posted:Trump supporters think They don't think. That's the problem. All they have is hate and made up grievances to justify that previously held hate. The press only exists to generate advertising revenue, not inform. Every time they pull this poo poo, it's just to generate clicks.
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Eric Cantonese posted:The GOP wants a Carter repeat, so it would make sense to encourage this. There was an interesting scene in the movie vice about Dick cheney, where Bill Clinton or Carter had put in hot water Sun absorbers and they were immediately taken out as soon as the Republicans went in.
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WAR CRIME GIGOLO posted:There was an interesting scene in the movie vice about Dick cheney, where Bill Clinton or Carter had put in hot water Sun absorbers and they were immediately taken out as soon as the Republicans went in.
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Considering China likely just disappeared their number one tennis star after she accused a party official of rape, I wouldn't want to go to China as an athlete.
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FlamingLiberal posted:Yes, Carter had solar panels installed on the White House which were removed when Reagan took over And some of them are at a Solar Museum at a Himin Solar in China that builds solar water heaters. They were in use at Unity College until 2005: https://unity.edu/unity-college-news/jimmy-carter-solar-panels/
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FlamingLiberal posted:Yes, Carter had solar panels installed on the White House which were removed when Reagan took over my mom is still incredibly bitter that jimmy carter could have led america to a non-climate change future and everyone flocked to reagan's vision of death and devastation
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GhostofJohnMuir posted:my mom is still incredibly bitter that jimmy carter could have led america to a non-climate change future and everyone flocked to reagan's vision of death and devastation It’s a nice fantasy, but it’s not real. Carter was the president who officially decided the Persian Gulf was a place we needed to declare in Our National Interest. This is arguably a major starting point in the modern oil wars. Carter may have had good intentions, but that’s a small consolation to a region and the millions dead, injured and otherwise affected by war over resources. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carter_Doctrine?wprov=sfti1 selec fucked around with this message at 06:49 on Nov 19, 2021 |
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https://twitter.com/daveweigel/status/1461570402837168128 So K-Mack just hosed himself with his own mouth for three hours and now everyone is laughing at him. I'd say it was gonna be nuts when this doof becomes Speaker in '23, but no, he's gonna go the way of his fellow YUUUUUUNG GUUUUNZ Paul Ryan and Eric Cantor and get hoofed out on his rear end in favour someone like Jim Jordan or the absolute lunatic gamble of the death cult picking Trump to be Speaker when they win.
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Sanguinia posted:Did he think he was in the Senate and he was filibustering or what? I legitimately think he thought he was scoring a win over Nancy Pelosi by denying her a vote on bill on the day she said she would bring it to the floor so that it would be a totally embarrassment and look at old Nancy, she can't even keep her word on the day she'll hold a vote on something. Only he did not appear to realize that she can just bring the bill up for a vote tomorrow morning and it would in fact be better because it means more people would be awake to see it happen and the headlines for all of Friday and into the weekend get to be HOUSE PASSES HISTORIC INFRASTRUCTURE BILL, BIDEN AGENDA ONE STEP AWAY FROM BECOMING LAW, etc. Look, Kevin McCarthy is not a smart man, okay. The only reason he is where he is is because no one else in his caucus wanted the job. He volunteered to be Speaker after John Boehner hosed off in 2015 and was literally laughed out of the room. No one on his team is stopping him from doing these dumbfuck theatrics because they're all laughing at him just as much as the rest of us are.
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Eric Cantonese posted:David Brooks just made me nauseous again. If it helps, I don't think anyone important to the political process in modern America really gives a poo poo about newspaper editorials, if they've ever.
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why the gently caress is glennchat happening in uspol of all places okay for real glenn is right about some things but he has become completely and utterly warped by his hatred of the people that he thinks wronged him (and to be fair, many of those people suck insane amounts of rear end) and has fully embraced reactionary thinking. he also is pretty much a "im not gonna say it but im saying it" transphobe; my moment i was straightup done with glenn was when he had a cohost who was talking about how trans people are stealing lesbians away and he was nodding his head going "Very cool!" so yeah gently caress glenn and gently caress his idiotic lib free speech absolutism. e: in news of other personalities, freddie deboer wrote the same loving article that he's written every year since two thousand loving eight. https://twitter.com/nytopinion/status/1461320326588112902 A big flaming stink fucked around with this message at 10:48 on Nov 19, 2021 |
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Eric Cantonese posted:Would they ever be happy unless we built a border wall out of the bodies of migrant children? They want a wall with machine guns pointing into Mexico where you pay some money and shoot at Mexicans for a while. And why would they ask trump voters why they liked Biden? Does hot like cold? Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1461541239371698177 He's probably telling Biden to do it because it was unpopular. Meatball fucked around with this message at 13:25 on Nov 19, 2021 |
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