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Junpei posted:Is there any other big, good magical girl RPGs aside from Blue Reflection? There's the Sailor Moon SNES game, which is... competent, question mark? It's only really worth it if you're already a Sailor Moon fan, I'd say. It's not bad, but it'd be extremely forgettable if it weren't for the license. There's the Rayearth Saturn games, but those are basically in the same ballpark as the Sailor Moon SNES game - only worthwhile as auxiliary material to what it's based on. Beyond that, not really. There's some obscure Japanese-only indie stuff that will never be translated in a million years.
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Depends wether you consider the Neptunia girls magical girls or not....
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Dec 11, 2021 14:58
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There is Fortune Summoners, but it's not really "big"?
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Dec 11, 2021 14:58
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Any Dungeon RPG where you can make your squad entirely magical girls?
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Dec 11, 2021 15:08
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Labyrinth of Touhou
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Dec 11, 2021 15:09
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That Madoka PSP game, I reckon.
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Dec 11, 2021 15:18
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Snake Maze posted:I mean it's basically the same phenomenon you see all over tech, where the venture capital startup with tons of money is willing to run at a loss and offer great deals to the customer with the end goal of becoming a monopoly and cranking prices up. It's a lovely goal and business model and I think it's pretty reasonable for people to dislike it. If you want to see it at work, just look at Facebook and the Quest VR headset. CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK posted:Are you talking about Steam or EGS? Steam is dumb for various reasons, but it's still a relatively open platform (even if it's just because they're too lazy to interfere), and EGS is actively malicious by comparison. Them "winning" would be real bad. We're actually pretty lucky they're so loving bad at what they're trying to achieve. The real short version is this is a question of looking a couple moves ahead, metaphorically speaking; It's not about "wow, they give games away for free, people will flock to them instead of Steam!" or whatever, but let's say they do somehow surpass/kill Steam and Gog vanishes in a puff of smoke overnight. Then go away all the nice-to-haves. Or any real user support. And in come the ads. And the microtransactions. And subscription fees. And out go mods or anything user-based content. Because what're you going to do, use a competitor's platform? Lol, what competitor's platform, you've got them and nothing so pound sand. Also you modded your game and violated our TOS so you're banned now, gently caress you, you don't get to play PC games ever again because it's our monopoly. That's what you gotta look ahead at with this. Neddy Seagoon fucked around with this message at 15:29 on Dec 11, 2021 |
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Dec 11, 2021 15:24
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TurnipFritter posted:That Madoka PSP game, I reckon.
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Junpei posted:Is there any other big, good magical girl RPGs aside from Blue Reflection? Your best option might be to fire up Unity and make your own.
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Dec 11, 2021 15:36
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The Hiori & Mio stuff in BR2 struck me as very strange because in the anime a cool & important part of their resolution was the realization that obsessing too much over each other was just feeding into both of their worst dysfunctions and they needed to take some distance and focus on their other relationships, but then the game just goes right back to playing them as "we're always super close and we're never going to let go of one another  " and making weird jokes about marrying each other. It feels like the anime & game writers weren't communicating very well.I get why they'd want to have Hiori here just for the "make a party of all BR protags" factor, but I do think Shino would've been a better companion for her, being the character she actually promised to never leave alone again and now seems weirdly unconcerned about I do quite like how they're playing Uta so far, though I haven't even done her heartscape yet. It's cool how they manage keep opening new dimensions to Ao's personality with every particular social dynamic even 10 characters in (Niina was also my favourite throughout the show, though Mio did edge her out at the very end. They're both so cool)
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Dec 11, 2021 15:39
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Sakurazuka posted:Depends wether you consider the Neptunia girls magical girls or not.... They're the avatars of CPUs, so more like robots or cyborgs. Personally, I count the Neptunia-games as cyberpunk RPGs because of this
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Neptunia is about as close as you're going to get to a "big" magical girl RPG, being about a team of girls who have fancy transformations into super forms who fight against evil organizations trying to blow up the world. Fairy Fencer, being basically a Neptunia game without the Neptunia IP, also fits these criteria, though there's boys in the team too in that one.
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Doesn't Fairy Fencer have a male main character, even? Under established magical girl doctrine, that is clear heresy, and I for one will not stand for it.
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Fair enough. I like to ask about RPGs that do atypical settings or experiment with influences beyond the usual fantasy and sci-fi stuff, hence the earlier Toku RPG ask. Probably also why I really like, say, Wild ARMs and Boktai (Western-based settings, though there is still fantasy and sci-fi stuff) and wish that there was more than two Legend of Legaia games (wuxia/martial arts, and also the second one is way worse than the first).
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FractalSandwich posted:Doesn't Fairy Fencer have a male main character, even? Under established magical girl doctrine, that is clear heresy, and I for one will not stand for it. Yeah, though his magical powers come from combining with a magical fairy girl.
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Junpei posted:Fair enough. I like to ask about RPGs that do atypical settings or experiment with influences beyond the usual fantasy and sci-fi stuff, hence the earlier Toku RPG ask. Probably also why I really like, say, Wild ARMs and Boktai (Western-based settings, though there is still fantasy and sci-fi stuff) and wish that there was more than two Legend of Legaia games (wuxia/martial arts, and also the second one is way worse than the first). I mean if you like Wuxia games some classic Taiwanese series have been getting translations (by machine oh god by machine) as of late and their budgets are skyrocketing with investment money.
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Junpei posted:Fair enough. I like to ask about RPGs that do atypical settings or experiment with influences beyond the usual fantasy and sci-fi stuff, hence the earlier Toku RPG ask. Probably also why I really like, say, Wild ARMs and Boktai (Western-based settings, though there is still fantasy and sci-fi stuff) and wish that there was more than two Legend of Legaia games (wuxia/martial arts, and also the second one is way worse than the first). Please look forward to Live A Live Remastered, which is definitely happening even though it's been two years since it was first rated by the Australian Ratings Board.
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There's a lot of Chinese-only wuxia RPGs. I'm pretty sure some of the first relatively big chinese-developed games were RPGs for the PS1.
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TurnipFritter posted:Please look forward to Live A Live Remastered, which is definitely happening even though it's been two years since it was first rated by the Australian Ratings Board. It will happen some day, I believe in them 
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I'm not saying that discussing who I pursued romantically in a 90s chinese-only wuxia RPG is the sole reason for success in my life, but its done more for my personal life and career than you might anticipate.
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Dec 11, 2021 16:43
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Sword Fairy is a very popular Chinese wuxia RPG that goes all the way back to the early 90s.
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Yeah, Sword and Fairy and Xuanyuan Sword are both long running Chinese RPG series. Gujian is also technically a series although they're just up to 3 games. I'm not huge on any of them personally, I prefer some smaller stuff. I think I've mentioned Heluo Studio before but I'm still keeping an eye on Path of Wuxia which is still in early access. That's one really nice thing about Steam. It lets you get Chinese games officially even if some of those don't have EN translations yet. There's probably some big posts about Chinese games on Steam if you're curious.
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Devorum posted:This is patently false, as anyone who plays a game with a modding scene can tell you. Unless you don't own the game on Steam, 'cause they won't let you download the mods without owning the game.
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GoldenJoe posted:Unless you don't own the game on Steam, 'cause they won't let you download the mods without owning the game. That sounds more like a problem with Steam locking down and monopolising certain mods, rather than an EGS issue.
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Hel posted:That sounds more like a problem with Steam locking down and monopolising certain mods, rather than an EGS issue. This isn't really an issue with Steam locking down mods. It's an issue of Steam Workshop being far and away the most convenient and easy to use way to install/update mods for most people, and a huge amount of mod creators/maintainers don't want to bother with the hassle of uploading them to Nexus or whatever as well as Steam to reach a tiny fraction of the potential userbase. As someone who frequently mods the poo poo out of games I play, I cannot overstate what a ridiculous night and day difference Steam Workshop made in this process. It's so much more user friendly and convenient than hunting down mods on Nexus or other sites and then laboriously installing them to proper directories that it's like going from a command prompt to Windows or something. Sometimes it can be sort of easy if a game has a big enough fanbase that there's a dedicated mod manager, but even that doesn't save the day all the time(see: Bethesda games). Kanos fucked around with this message at 20:17 on Dec 11, 2021 |
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Magical girl is a strangely undermined aesthetic in other mediums for how popular it is. Maybe it's because of the stereotype that little girls don't like video games? I know there's a thing about how it's basically impossible to convince American toymakers that girls might like something with action in it.
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Endorph posted:Incidentally there does seem to have been something of an attempt to make Uta a pseudo-mascot for the recent Blue Reflection stuff, there were little skits that focused on her posted to the youtube channel daily then weekly during the anime's run. Most of them were her making jokes at Niina, Mio, and Shino. There's a cooking joke that I'm pretty sure gets repeated in both the anime and Second Light, for instance. It's kind of interesting that she, of all characters, is the thread running through this revival stuff. Sadly I predict the upcoming mobage will flop and we will not get any more blue reflection stuff, but Ray and Second Light are both pretty complete in themselves, and I'm really happy with how they've expanded on the good parts of the original game. that's pretty wild a gacha can be pretty trash and still turn a profit so I don't doubt it won't be a complete failure but I don't see any world where it's a big success, yeah, even by gust's standards. Probably the best I can hope for is gust turning the emotional style of writing they used in BR towards Atelier, which is generally superior gameplay wise but has been in a bit of a downturn writing-wise from it's height, at least for me personally.
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Devorum posted:This is patently false, as anyone who plays a game with a modding scene can tell you. The store client itself is actually a UE4 application, which is..clever I guess, but also makes it performatively garbage like that
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kirbysuperstar posted:The store client itself is actually a UE4 application, which is..clever I guess, but also makes it performatively garbage like that Why would they do this
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Gaius Marius posted:Why would they do this When you all you have is a hammer factory....
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Clearly they're setting up for the VR storefront where it simulates being in a game shop, right down to having to swipe your credit card.
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the only other magical girl rpg i can think of (besides the stuff already mentioned, like sailor moon) was the tokyo mew mew one on the uhhh ps1 or 2 or smth???? man there Really should be more magical girl rpgs huh
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I'm not aware of any besides Blue Reflection that aren't based on an existing anime franchise
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Is Final Fantasy 6 a magical girl RPG? If not, why not?
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Crowetron posted:Is Final Fantasy 6 a magical girl RPG? If not, why not?
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it is an RPG with a magical girl, but one isn't enough, it has to be the dominant aesthetic, imo
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Crowetron posted:Is Final Fantasy 6 a magical girl RPG? If not, why not? Now that I think back on it, yeah that magic knight general girl with her artificially grafted on powers was basically a magical girl, yes. How many magical girls use swords instead of magic staffs, though?
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Crowetron posted:Is Final Fantasy 6 a magical girl RPG? If not, why not? hmmm.... yes?? i guess? i'd say it doesn't have much in the way of a team of magical girls though
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Libluini posted:Now that I think back on it, yeah that magic knight general girl with her artificially grafted on powers was basically a magical girl, yes. How many magical girls use swords instead of magic staffs, though? https://i.imgur.com/KTPlyKa.mp4
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i think cutey honey uses a sword too
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