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pseudanonymous posted:The other thing about saying "oh freepers are mentally ill" or "qanon people are mentally ill" or whatever, it robs them of any agency and responsibility for their choices. There's a raging loving pandemic in this country right now, and the reason for it is the choices of these people, and they overwhelmingly made those choices because they're horrible selfish stupid bigots, not because "they're mentally ill". We do a much better job of realizing that physical health is complicated, and we understand that you can be unhealthy, in a way that impairs your quality of life and makes you more susceptible to various diseases and injuries, without having a diagnosable illness that lands you in the hospital. I think that the majority of freepers and Qanon people are not mentally ill in the sense of qualifying for diagnosis of a condition, but they sure aren't mentally healthy, either.
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Captain Log posted:Like I mentioned in my last post, the question of "mental illness" is irrelevant, without a deep discussion about religion classified as a shared societal delusion that isn't in the scope of this thread. I have a possibly naive belief that if the bubble of RWM feeding into them were to burst and they'd be left with just their own eyes they'd tend towards being mostly harmless people who just work jobs and hang out to do things but that ain't happening SO
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Denver gunman targeted most victims [business disputes] in shooting rampage that left 5 dead, police say loving Tattoos!  quote:To: BenLurkin quote:To: BenLurkin quote:To: Sirius Lee; carriage_hill; wally_bert AntiFa! quote:To: BenLurkin Oh, yeah, that'll do it.  quote:To: BenLurkin quote:To: dware Wait, What? quote:To: Skywise quote:To: PLMerite quote:To: BenLurkin quote:To: G Larry
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Shugojin posted:I have a possibly naive belief that if the bubble of RWM feeding into them were to burst and they'd be left with just their own eyes they'd tend towards being mostly harmless people who just work jobs and hang out to do things but that ain't happening SO I actually don't think it's that naive. If we were to completely remove language from people, what would their actions produce? Example - My southern grandparents did charity work their whole lives while never making much, raised over forty foster kids including drug addiction cases, never said "boo" to so much as a fly, and mostly did a lot of good. (They did some mentally hosed up things to their children, thanks to religion. Not trying to say they were angels.) If you listened to the poo poo that came out of their mouth, certain subjects would quickly stray into some pretty ignorant territory about drat near anything. (Other than racism, in their case.) But if you looked at the products of their actions, I believe it would be mostly good. I think a lot of these right-wing people spouting awful poo poo do not default into being awful. It's something that is planted, watered, and grown. I think the right wing media sphere is taking people who would have been "a little old fashioned" to "questionable" ten years ago and turning them into full blown hate spouting bigots. I do, however, think some people live to hate. They just now exist in an environment where they can go completely mask off.
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pseudanonymous posted:The other thing about saying "oh freepers are mentally ill" or "qanon people are mentally ill" or whatever, it robs them of any agency and responsibility for their choices. There's a raging loving pandemic in this country right now, and the reason for it is the choices of these people, and they overwhelmingly made those choices because they're horrible selfish stupid bigots, not because "they're mentally ill". I feel like people naturally see insanity as the opposite of rationality, which it is not. You can be sane but still drat irrational. Most of us probably are in some ways. We just usually don't recognise our errors, especially when we have confined ourselves to an echo chamber. I don't think we can say that people have 100% agency in what they believe and fear as if they were Vulcan philosophers, it comes down to some very primitive reactions.
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Captain Log posted:I think the right wing media sphere is taking people who would have been "a little old fashioned" to "questionable" ten years ago and turning them into full blown hate spouting bigots. It’s not just them. I saw an abortion clinic escort program leader, despondent the morning after Trump’s election, end up full-blown MAGA just a couple years later. This poo poo is insidious.
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Nenonen posted:I feel like people naturally see insanity as the opposite of rationality, which it is not. You can be sane but still drat irrational. Most of us probably are in some ways. We just usually don't recognise our errors, especially when we have confined ourselves to an echo chamber. I don't think we can say that people have 100% agency in what they believe and fear as if they were Vulcan philosophers, it comes down to some very primitive reactions. Hence the word overwhelmingly.
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raminasi posted:It’s not just them. I saw an abortion clinic escort program leader, despondent the morning after Trump’s election, end up full-blown MAGA just a couple years later. This poo poo is insidious. I wish I could say something about people of a certain age not being prepared for the internet, or not having the appropriately developed internet critical thinking. But it sure doesn't seem age specific in the least.
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Captain Log posted:I wish I could say something about people of a certain age not being prepared for the internet, or not having the appropriately developed internet critical thinking. As an eighties born kid, I thought early exposure to the internet and the infinite abyss of free publishing would prepare me for the reality of the modern info age. I thought searching the world for good info would be a problem everyone would equally suffer through. I was too young to understand propaganda and how little effort people put into constructing their own belief systems, and (most of all) how easy it was to misdirect dedicated effort. In my experience, it's not an age thing, but being old and just reading World Book as the only truth source for your first 40 years doesn't help.
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There are lots of posts of freepers knowing someone who died of COVID and of course there are still deniers in this thread. Am I alone? I don't know anyone who has died of Covid. quote:I'm not discounting the existence of this but, yet, it feels odd that so many people are suffering and I've never known a single soul who has been to the hospital or died from Covid. quote:To: Theophilus Bolding theirs. quote:To: Drew68 quote:To: Drew68 quote:To: Drew68 quote:To: Drew68 quote:To: untenured quote:To: untenured quote:To: fieldmarshaldj
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I'll never get over these hate monsters taking the time to carefully edit out swears with things like sh1t. Because that's somehow not swearing?
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Freepers make predictions about 2022. Naw, Freepers actually work to burnish their Freep credentials and don't care about making accurate predictions: quote:To: Red Badger quote:To: SunkenCiv quote:To: Diogenesis quote:To: Red Badger quote:To: MarvinStinson; Red Badger
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Freepers do NOT think AOC is hot! Please let everyone know.quote:Don’t blame me, I experience absolutely nothing sexual when I look at that communist hag. quote:The horse mouth breaks the whole deal. Oh, and the psychotic eyes. quote:She’ll always be a bar women. quote:She still thinks if she flashes her tits, she can get bigger tips, or more votes. quote:Yeah, I’m sure they are all wanting to date her. quote:narcissist, and an insecure one at that. Or maybe it’s a latin thing - they get criticized from the opposite sex and try to turn it into a sexual thing, to gaslight legitimate criticism. The men and women both do it. quote:"Hasn’t Gov. DeSantis been inexplicably missing for like 2 weeks?" Ocasio-Cortez wrote quote:
quote:This dude Riley must really be hard up if he has to stoop to this animal for companionship or was he carrying a ten-foot pole? quote:“I experience absolutely nothing sexual when I look at that communist hag.” quote:Yeah, we all know nobody could be the geeky stud her boyfriend is. quote:She’s a 2am Beer Goggles Queen at best. quote:she’s not wrong-alot of old creeps are obsessed with her in sweaters. quote:What? AOC was on the beach and not workin' the Bar? quote:Gotta be pretty desperate if one would have to do anything with that ignorant s***. quote:She talks as though her father or an uncle sexually abused her as a child. quote:As my best friend (the eddie haskell of our class) in high school used to say.......”Dude, I wouldn’t @##$ her with your @#$%” Idiots just don’t turn me on. I find brains attractive otherwise it’s just another stinkin body. quote:Occasional Cortex is fantasizing about her own attractiveness. She is physically good for a pleasant first take but when she opens her mouth the picture warps. When she speaks it disintegrates. With her it quickly becomes apparent that looks are certainly not everything and can be disasterously deceptive. quote:"If Republicans are mad they can’t date me they can just say that instead of projecting their sexual frustrations onto my boyfriend’s feet. Ya creepy weirdos." quote:I certainly do not want to have sex with a horse, no matter how nice the breasts. Freep: I certainly do not want to have sex with a horse, no matter how nice the breasts.
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Continuing to just randomly hate soccer out of jingoistic spite. Just the sheer pettiness of things like that always gets me.
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Xiahou Dun posted:Continuing to just randomly hate soccer out of jingoistic spite. Soccer is boring and needs a much smaller field
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HootTheOwl posted:Soccer is boring and needs a much smaller field Neither of those is true though?????
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Sarcastr0 posted:Freepers make predictions about 2022. ANY DAY NOW!
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HootTheOwl posted:Soccer is boring and needs a much smaller field 
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"She’ll always be a bar women."' Is that loving WASP from the 1700's?
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I'm a 75 year old man still stewing over my fourth divorce. Lemme tell ya how the communists are horny for the Squad, unlike me, a man who Fucks.
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HootTheOwl posted:Soccer is boring and needs a much smaller field No just make it so the goalkeeper can’t use his hands.
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the most popular sport in the world is boring
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Jay Rust posted:the most popular sport in the world is boring I don't think baseball is the most popular sport in the world.
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KittyEmpress posted:I don't think baseball is the most popular sport in the world. 
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Jay Rust posted:the most popular sport in the world is boring yes
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KittyEmpress posted:I don't think baseball is the most popular sport in the world. If the games were more exciting maybe the fans wouldn't want to beat the poo poo out of each other afterwards
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KittyEmpress posted:I don't think baseball is the most popular sport in the world. I was going to make a comment, that it might be if you lump it together with cricket. But no. Looking at the numbers, baseball is so meaningless and boring, that the total amount of "fans" of that sport can't even breach the gap between the most popular and the second most popular sport. For reference: Soccer 3.5B fans, Cricket 2.5, Baseball 0.5
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Jay Rust posted:the most popular sport in the world is boring Things that are good aren't always popular and things that are popular aren't always good
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Friendly reminder that there's a whole subforum dedicated to the beautiful game and we like nothing more than a frank and good natured exchange of views about rule changes
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Yes the majority is always objectively correct *remembers slavery and when women and black people couldn't vote and when people thought the world was flat and that the sun revolved around it*
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Elephant Ambush posted:Yes the majority is always objectively correct This is a Freep post where you forgot to source it right?
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Jay Rust posted:the most popular sport in the world is boring
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Elephant Ambush posted:Yes the majority is always objectively correct In pretty much each of these cases, that was just a loud minority. At least by the time the people who claim credit for discrediting those opinions came around. Not sure about the lack voting eligibility. That one might have had an actual majority behind it.
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Elephant Ambush posted:Yes the majority is always objectively correct This is a real argument you’re making. In the Freep thread. About people liking a different sport than you. I’m just documenting this poo poo for posterity.
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