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Regarde Aduck posted:Rcm spoilers. Lets not forget the implication that the RCM is the continuation of the communists from the last war which makes them pretty unlike most real world police forces which are very much the opposite end of that spectrum Except for the plans of some of the leading figures, I don't really see that as being much more than a name. In practice the RCM is just regular old police (and it's mentioned again and again that any old thug can become a policeman) with what seems like a fancy name (also after the revolution and in the Soviet Union police used to be called "Militia", which is still a colloquial name for police, and they really were just police).
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Also a big deal about Revachol is that while it once was capital of the world, it's now more colonised than coloniser.
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Randarkman posted:Except for the plans of some of the leading figures, I don't really see that as being much more than a name. In practice the RCM is just regular old police (and it's mentioned again and again that any old thug can become a policeman) with what seems like a fancy name (also after the revolution and in the Soviet Union police used to be called "Militia", which is still a colloquial name for police, and they really were just police). Some of the old case files do indicate that the RCM goes a bit beyond policing; cleaning up public spaces is typically a job for municipal workers, and organising public referendums would be a huge departure from how we expect the police to act and indicative of a much more loose societal structure in south Revachol. I always got the vibe that the RCM is pretty heavily involved in the civil governance of the poorer areas of Revachol where the coalition government is unwilling to get involved; part of the reason they're hated so much in Martinase is that they refused to get involved themselves and so the Union stepped into that role instead.
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dead gay comedy forums posted:no, it was there in the release. it is one of the most suggestive yet also one of the most subtle references in the game, I wrote about it in the other thread
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I have recorded the intro 35 minutes of the game in order to send to my therapist, after the game came up last session. Now, I'm not saying that this is explicitly an attempt to get her to buy and play the game, but it would be a nice bonus. This is a good and productive use of my time and money. This is actually the lord's work.
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How did this man record so much dialogue. How did he not die.
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Vagabong posted:Some of the old case files do indicate that the RCM goes a bit beyond policing; cleaning up public spaces is typically a job for municipal workers, and organising public referendums would be a huge departure from how we expect the police to act and indicative of a much more loose societal structure in south Revachol. I always got the vibe that the RCM is pretty heavily involved in the civil governance of the poorer areas of Revachol where the coalition government is unwilling to get involved; part of the reason they're hated so much in Martinase is that they refused to get involved themselves and so the Union stepped into that role instead. That's a good point, though that could possibly also be because Revachol is still essentially under military occupation and the RCM is essentially what passes for a a middle man/local enforcer and implementer of the temporary Moralintern administration.
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YggiDee posted:How did this man record so much dialogue. How did he not die.
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On the other hand Kim doesn't actively try stopping you from shooting Cunoesse
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YggiDee posted:How did this man record so much dialogue. How did he not die. There's an interview with Lenval Brown, the narrator, here: https://www.pcgamer.com/uk/we-talk-to-disco-elysiums-incredible-narrator-who-recorded-350000-words-of-dialogue-and-has-never-acted-before/ edit: having just read it there are some unmarked spoilers. Tread carefully, sire Party Boat fucked around with this message at 17:40 on Jan 5, 2022 |
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EorayMel posted:On the other hand Kim doesn't actively try stopping you from shooting Cunoesse What’s he gonna do? You have his gun.
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Randarkman posted:Except for the plans of some of the leading figures, I don't really see that as being much more than a name. In practice the RCM is just regular old police (and it's mentioned again and again that any old thug can become a policeman) with what seems like a fancy name (also after the revolution and in the Soviet Union police used to be called "Militia", which is still a colloquial name for police, and they really were just police). You’re not thinking French enough think like the National Guard during revolution.
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You can tell Kim you hate him because of his race, you can tell him you believe in a fascist wonderland where people like him are second class citizens and women are possessions, and he'll still give you his gun. In Kim's mind supporting a fellow officer is more important than the fact that Harry lost his badge, his gun, and all of his memory. That alone should be enough for Kim to never hand you a weapon. It's the same brain disease that made people cry "such a tragedy, but what can you do?" during the George Floyd protests: moralism.
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Bar Ran Dun posted:You’re not thinking French enough think like the National Guard during revolution. a bourgeois liberal militia? that doesn't seem right.
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Cpt_Obvious posted:You can tell Kim you hate him because of his race, you can tell him you believe in a fascist wonderland where people like him are second class citizens and women are possessions, and he'll still give you his gun. In Kim's mind supporting a fellow officer is more important than the fact that Harry lost his badge, his gun, and all of his memory. That alone should be enough for Kim to never hand you a weapon. It's the same brain disease that made people cry "such a tragedy, but what can you do?" during the George Floyd protests: moralism. Look, he just really wants that body to no longer be in the tree
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Unrelated to kim but regarding another moralist failing the drama red check with the sunday friend on telling him who is the dangerous fugitive doing corporate espionage will result in you try blaming it on Cuno and you can support your reasoning by saying he throws rocks at a corpse, has a drug kingpin dad, , he steals bugs OR that he is a ginger and that is good enough to arrest him on the grounds of corporate espionage  
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the previous thread, pre-final cut e: I'll eventually fetch that one
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Cpt_Obvious posted:You can tell Kim you hate him because of his race, you can tell him you believe in a fascist wonderland where people like him are second class citizens and women are possessions, and he'll still give you his gun. In Kim's mind supporting a fellow officer is more important than the fact that Harry lost his badge, his gun, and all of his memory. That alone should be enough for Kim to never hand you a weapon. It's the same brain disease that made people cry "such a tragedy, but what can you do?" during the George Floyd protests: moralism. Kim is, after all, a moralist. It's easy to lose sight of this because he's also everybody's best friend we would all die for, but his relationship to power and authority is very, very heavily informed by this
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EorayMel posted:big image Huh, when I got that drama check and failed it on my last run I had the option to say Cuno was guilty because "he used slurs at my crime scene". There should have a been a "he won't talk to me and let me progress with a bunch of quests I need him for" option, depriving a superstar detective of Content should be a felony.
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Epic High Five posted:Kim is, after all, a moralist. It's easy to lose sight of this because he's also everybody's best friend we would all die for, but his relationship to power and authority is very, very heavily informed by this I would classify Kim as a Weak Moralist. He identifies as such because that's the system he exists and works under and he doesn't have a desire to rock the status quo, in comparison to someone like Sunday Friend that holds it as a stronger ideological position. Maybe that's not the best way to define it, but I don't think he's moralist in the same way
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Kim may be a moralist, but he is not The World's Most Laughable Centrist
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christmas boots posted:I would classify Kim as a Weak Moralist. He identifies as such because that's the system he exists and works under and he doesn't have a desire to rock the status quo, in comparison to someone like Sunday Friend that holds it as a stronger ideological position. Maybe that's not the best way to define it, but I don't think he's moralist in the same way Making excuses for a moralist? How moralist of you
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christmas boots posted:I would classify Kim as a Weak Moralist. He identifies as such because that's the system he exists and works under and he doesn't have a desire to rock the status quo, in comparison to someone like Sunday Friend that holds it as a stronger ideological position. Maybe that's not the best way to define it, but I don't think he's moralist in the same way He's a moralist but is pretty clearly mostly because so much of his worldview is tied up in his duties and loyalties to his co-workers, which is a slightly better match than ultraliberal which he also mentioned being Honestly a lot of his actions are probably best explained by his awareness of your reputation going into it and that he isn't sure what is you becoming completely unmoored from reality and what is you using an "unconventional approach" He's very clearly not exactly happy much of the time but goes with it anyway
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McCloud posted:Making excuses for a moralist? How moralist of you Authority (Legendary: Success): You’re not not going to take that kind of insult, are you?
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Woolie VS with the best commentary on the rear end in a top hat sunday friend (starts at 15:30) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6KmboWOaKY&t=935s
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Hey, so, uh, Half-Light has started telling me some weird poo poo. What language is that? Is this Greek? Should I be concerned?
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YggiDee posted:Hey, so, uh, Half-Light has started telling me some weird poo poo. What language is that? Is this Greek? Should I be concerned? The end is nigh
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Wrr posted:I have recorded the intro 35 minutes of the game in order to send to my therapist, after the game came up last session. Now, I'm not saying that this is explicitly an attempt to get her to buy and play the game, but it would be a nice bonus.
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I'm trying to play this dude as a guy who's trying to improve but then Pain Threshold or the Thought Cabinet or whoever gives me one of most ghastly, beautiful lines I'll ever read and I can't not click it.
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TACD posted:Finger On The Eject Button is the only reference material I need In the entire game, even as a huge communist who recognizes when they are owned, that's the Thought that I avoid like a plague because it's..well it's just
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The one problem with being a Sorry Cop is that it takes all of the anticipation out of the red dice rolls. I already know I failed because I healed morale before the numbers hit.
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McCloud posted:Making excuses for a moralist? How moralist of you  christmas boots posted:Authority (Legendary: Success): You’re not not going to take that kind of insult, are you? 
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punishedkissinger posted:a bourgeois liberal militia? that doesn't seem right. This is probably important, they created the Paris commune. Ya know the Communards?
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YggiDee posted:The one problem with being a Sorry Cop is that it takes all of the anticipation out of the red dice rolls. I already know I failed because I healed morale before the numbers hit. Isn't preemptively knowing that you failed the whole point of being a sorry cop?
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I started my third playthrough, first since the Final Cut came out. I’m going 6/2/2/2: all in on logic and the other reasoning skills. Trying to play as a sort of emotionless data sponge. So far it’s going well. It’s neat seeing all the new dialogue that logic and encyclopedia keeps picking up on. Like I don’t know my name, but I knew the name of Kim’s car and new specific details and history of heavy cavalry. I need a new game in this setting, it’s too beautiful not to be used forever.
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i love having a high visual calculus, especially when paired with being a huge drunken gently caress-up party-boy
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Bar Ran Dun posted:This is probably important, they created the Paris commune. Ya know the Communards? oh derp. i was thinking '89 not '71
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So. How do I feel about Disco Elysium? Well, I finished the game, watched the credits, and then after spending an hour trying to do anything else I immediately opened an older save and just did the ending again because I wanted to see what changed if certain die rolls went differently. (oh no Rose, oh no Kim, uhhhh Cuno?! Then the batteries on my Switch controller went out and you know how long those fuckers last. Game good! It's real good!
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