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Jedit posted:There are no "normals" in crypto. It's an MMF pyramid scam, and in such a scam there are only scammers and bagholders. But nobody ever gets involved in a pyramid scheme thinking that they will be the ones left holding the bag. Everyone who loses money in crypto loses it because they wanted to profit at someone else's expense. Have no sympathy for them. it’s easy to have this perspective from the outside but i guarantee a nontrivial portion of people who are in no way techies buy into this poo poo because to them it seems like how people used to buy bonds and stocks - equivalently non physical in the eyes of most people - that would appreciate and make money without having to work at investing it. so like sure okay does anyone who gets involved in speculative investments deserve to get burned? that’s another story. but i don’t think it’s “right” to laud a total scammer on the news either
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Bug Squash posted:What naivety! No, the last round is debtors prisons, where you work for free. lol at this. The last stage is the infinite torture machine in michael gove's basement
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OwlFancier posted:The US already has slavery. literally enshrined in the constitution!
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Convex posted:lol at this. The last stage is the infinite torture machine in michael gove's basement Round and round the merry-gove-round!
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Feb 9, 2022 13:50
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Lmao at Boris just going 'No you're wrong' to the statement in PMQ's about the picture.
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Jedit posted:There are no "normals" in crypto. It's an MMF pyramid scam, and in such a scam there are only scammers and bagholders. But nobody ever gets involved in a pyramid scheme thinking that they will be the ones left holding the bag. Everyone who loses money in crypto loses it because they wanted to profit at someone else's expense. Have no sympathy for them. There do seem to be a fair amount of rubes who are taken in by the buzzwords and convinced that crypto actually does something or serves a purpose, though I suppose those either become scammers or bagholders pretty quickly.
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Feb 9, 2022 14:12
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i don't know if we should be so harsh on 'rubes' when the national broadcaster is now backing the scam
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Feb 9, 2022 14:21
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Lmao, I like that they kept the sneakers, the crucial element that makes keith_chegwin_rimjob_euros.bmp so memorable
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Feb 9, 2022 14:36
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Haha fully pulled it now too. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-60289028 I assume the segment on tv is gonna be pulled also? Next time BBC, at least google the persons name before writing the puff piece.
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Feb 9, 2022 14:49
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Jedit posted:The problem being that most of them aren't downsizing. They're living in their Big House until they have to go into a home, and then their Big House is sold to a landlord to pay the care bills. The people living in the granny flats are young couples who can't afford a real house.
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mediaphage posted:speaking of i actually stopped reading a handful of books ago, they just got too ridiculous (i don’t care for the superhero schtick at all, etc) Yeah, I actually got a refund on the last one - Dead Lies Dreaming - from Kobo after reading the first chapter. I think they started to lose me when he introduced Persephone whatshername who broke all the pre-established rules of how magic works etc.
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mediaphage posted:it’s easy to have this perspective from the outside but i guarantee a nontrivial portion of people who are in no way techies buy into this poo poo because to them it seems like how people used to buy bonds and stocks - equivalently non physical in the eyes of most people - that would appreciate and make money without having to work at investing it. Yeah, my dad thought he was basically opening a new kind of investment account, I managed to stop him before he'd put in more than £100, but he definitely didn't think it was a scam or that he was scamming others. It took a lot of work to convince him that NFTs are just a unique receipt--he's a musician so his frame of reference is that there's multiple forms of partial ownership that come with royalties (songwriting credit, performance credit, etc.) and he'd been under the impression NFTs were something comparable to that, a way of having partial copyright royalties or something. The number of times I said "yeah, they'd be actually useful if they worked like that, but..." Thankfully I headed that off before he'd bought anything.
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Angrymog posted:Yeah, I actually got a refund on the last one - Dead Lies Dreaming - from Kobo after reading the first chapter. I think they started to lose me when he introduced Persephone whatshername who broke all the pre-established rules of how magic works etc. for me i think where they started to go down in quality was when he really dove into his vampire bankers. they were at the best when it was just a dude and his scary wife not really understanding anything
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Feb 9, 2022 15:04
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I'm terminally online and have a physics degree and I barely understand what crypto is A couple of threads ago we were talking about the surprisingly large number of adults that can't even use negative numbers, what loving chance do they have It is a Very Leftist position to use legislation to protect the financially illiterate from pyramid schemes
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Feb 9, 2022 15:28
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Pablo Bluth posted:There was a report a couple of years ago that concluded many retired people are stuck in large homes because there's not the right sort of property in the right locations for them to downsize to, and we should build them to help fix the market. Of course the terrible press decided to run with "They want to kick you out of your home" angle. In my town there are very few small houses or flats available and very poor public transport to the more outlying areas. Taxis are hugely expensive and aren't that available but I shan't digress into my solutions for local transport in semi-rural areas! Also there's another issue which I think gets left out of the conversation and that's how many older people actually home their kids and grandkids sporadically. My mum has housed various adult grandsons for months at a time, and one of my brothers who lost his tied accommodation when his workplace closed down, and I know other people also in their 70s and 80s who have had adult children move back in with them, often accompanied by young kids, when marriages or partnerships break down. One couple in their 70s I know have had two adult daughters and 3 under 5s move back in with them as both had marriage breakdowns in the last 2-3 years. There's not a chance on this planet of either of them being able to afford their own accommodation (rented or bought). Mum finally sold her house but is now being a 'property guardian' until she can get somewhere suitable. She kept getting gazumped by cash buyers on places she tried to buy before she sold hers, but now she is in cash buyer position. All my life until the last couple of years, I've always had the 'comfort' of knowing if the poo poo really hit the fan I could go back home to mum and dad (despite it not being the most desirable thing to do) and I always felt a bit sorry for friends who did not have 'the ultimate fallback' of that eg a couple of friends brought up in the care system.
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Bobby Deluxe posted:WHAT Well... cases are down fairly consistently, deaths are static, patients admitted to hospitals are down, and tests are going down.
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JeremoudCorbynejad posted:I'm terminally online and have a physics degree and I barely understand what crypto is I get that some people need protecting from themselves, but when I know what I'm doing (not crypto btw*!) but some stupid law prohibits me in order to protect Mr Bloggs who believes all those Nigerian Prince scams, it gets me a bit cross.  (Papa Jaeluni springs to mind - he fell for all those things all the time despite numerous warnings from myself and my siblings, because 'people don't lie' and 'you have to show trust'.)Can't think of one at the moment but I've encountered it somewhere. I know I've had to go through some song and dance mini-quizz routine to prove I know that my capital such as it is is at risk when putting money into 'investment' savings rather than into the building society. *same as you - physics degree but don't really get it.
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EvilHawk posted:Well... cases are down fairly consistently, deaths are static, patients admitted to hospitals are down, and tests are going down.
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I think if you have a maths or physics degree you're much less likely to "get" crypto, because it is, fundamentally, loving stupid
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EvilHawk posted:Well... cases are down fairly consistently, deaths are static, patients admitted to hospitals are down, and tests are going down. Yeah, positively trending downwards init
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Removing the requirement to self-isolate at this moment is loving insanely irresponsible, regardless of "positive" trends I'm sure one in two people probably are merrily wandering around spreading it to all and sundry already (because the English are loving cunts), but making that two in two people is, uh, not a great idea Unless you wanna do eugenics And don't give a gently caress about doing long term health damage to a non-significant percentage of your workforce ...oh
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Bobby Deluxe posted:We have downgraded our status from hellscape to dystopia, and will be celebrating this by returning to the conditions that upgraded us to hellscape in the first place, in order to appease moloch. it’s a bit disingenuous to imply that the danger from Omicron cases in a mostly-vaccinated population is the same as the initial 2019 wave of cases in a totally unvaccinated population e: genuine question - is there any research that’s been done into the likelihood/severity of long Covid cases developing from Omicron infections, or is it still too early for that?
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Maybe there's something to the conspiracy that the queen bumped off Phil https://twitter.com/AyoCaesar/status/1491377299438321664 Jaeluni Asjil posted:I get that some people need protecting from themselves, but when I know what I'm doing (not crypto btw*!) but some stupid law prohibits me in order to protect Mr Bloggs who believes all those Nigerian Prince scams, it gets me a bit cross. Problem is that there's a lot of people who have a distrust of central authority (especially African Americans, British Bangladeshis, victims of austerity, etc.) for good reasons, who can find information that everything from central banking to fiat currency to universal healthcare to covid are all a big scam, and exist in a world where lotteries and casino apps and fixed-odds betting terminals and other taxes on the dreams of the poor are all legal and promoted. It's no surprise that they're more open to NFT/crypto style speculation being something other than what it is, especially with the amount of chaff about 'work' and 'ownership' that gets thrown around to distract from the grift.
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Cases are just now starting to trend downwards, which is great, but this is after several weeks of them holding steady at a stupidly high rate. We may see cases continue to drop dramatically which, with boosters already available and Omicron specific treatments in development, is basically fine (inasmuch as allowing any virus to stay in circulation is "fine"), but that's assuming cases do actually drop going into spring and summer, and haven't just gone down a little bit. We'll at least know whether they've actually reduced properly by the end of the month; it's a small mercy that the government hasn't just dropped all precautions overnight, even if that's functionally what we've done for several months now.
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Guavanaut posted:Maybe there's something to the conspiracy that the queen bumped off Phil They've been an object lesson that, as long as you're rich and white enough, it doesn't matter if you're Greek or German or Bohemian or whatever, you will still have a cadre of bootlickers and fartcatchers genuflecting before you
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Julio Cruz posted:it’s a bit disingenuous to imply that the danger from Omicron cases in a mostly-vaccinated population is the same as the initial 2019 wave of cases in a totally unvaccinated population you need at least 3 months of symptoms before you can classify it as long covid therefore if you’re just constantly getting reinfected by the same omicron then you’ll never technically get long covid *taps head*
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:I get that some people need protecting from themselves, but when I know what I'm doing (not crypto btw*!) but some stupid law prohibits me in order to protect Mr Bloggs who believes all those Nigerian Prince scams, it gets me a bit cross. Again one is an email scam with poor grammar and spelling and nonsensical situations (why exactly is this money being given to you, at this point in time?) and the other is a barely understood or understandable outgrowth of the tech and finance sectors banging and having a demon scam baby that is being signal boosted by the BBC as legit. They are not the same thing.
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For all it is a scam I still regret not getting on board when all my friends were into it back in early 2010s.
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The only reason reported cases are dropping is because we declared you no longer need to get a PCR if your lateral flow is positive, and nobody reports their lateral flow. As per the most recent ONS figures from today (which are based on their random population sampling as opposed to reported tests): quote:In England, the percentage of people testing positive for coronavirus (COVID-19) increased in the two weeks up to 5 February 2022, but the trend was uncertain in the most recent week; we estimate that 2,824,700 people in England had COVID-19 (95% credible interval: 2,740,300 to 2,910,300), equating to around 1 in 19 people. https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopula...t/9february2022 So best case scenario is they've finally levelled off, not that they've dropped. Also deaths aren't dropping, they've stabilised at around ~1700 a week for a while now. blunt fucked around with this message at 17:14 on Feb 9, 2022 |
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Private Speech posted:For all it is a scam I still regret not getting on board when all my friends were into it back in early 2010s. why, it's just a pyramid scam that took off. It's not like you regret not getting into every other pyramid scam that didn't, on the off chance you could have gotten out in time
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If I had a time machine then sure, I'd buy all the bitcoin I could and cash out before the first big scams and rugpulls. But at the time, the chances of you hanging on until it was valuable enough to cash out for millions, but also not become an obsessive hodler, and also avoiding the cratering of the first big exchanges, is astronomically unlikely. You really didn't miss out, because most people weren't on the winning side of the scam.
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